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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

A sword cripple is an single target cripple and under the effects of leg specialist also adds immobilize to a single target, this works fine seeing as the original ability is after all a single target cripple, but…….!

hammer cripple is a conal AOE cripple, but under the effects of leg specialist it doesn’t immobilize all crippled targets but just the measly 1st target that is crippled.

I do not believe that leg specialist is working properly when it comes to AOE cripple at all, in fact I’d say it’s a waste for anything but single target cripple abilities.

leg specialist should discern between single target and aoe abilities.
meaning if an ability is originally an aoe cripple it should add immobilize to all crippled targets NOT just the 1st one to get hit.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I think the only time leg specialist is worth taking is when combining it the arms trait opportunist. 1 sec immo. is negligible for single target

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

I think the only time leg specialist is worth taking is when combining it the arms trait opportunist. 1 sec immo. is negligible for single target

1 sec Immob is enough to set up a full Earthshaker combo and guarantees the Flurry followup if you’re using the Sword.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

Leg specialist got changed to having a 5 second cool down.

It isn’t very good now.

It got changed because of the arrow cart utilizing traits at that time and people like to whine about stuff all the time so it got nerfed hard.

What do you expect when people whine instead of learning how to deal with stuff.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I think the only time leg specialist is worth taking is when combining it the arms trait opportunist. 1 sec immo. is negligible for single target

1 sec Immob is enough to set up a full Earthshaker combo and guarantees the Flurry followup if you’re using the Sword.

You can guaranty ES with Staggering Blow or Back Breaker and Flurry is easy to pull off anyway. IMHO those points would be better placed somewhere else.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

I think the only time leg specialist is worth taking is when combining it the arms trait opportunist. 1 sec immo. is negligible for single target

1 sec Immob is enough to set up a full Earthshaker combo and guarantees the Flurry followup if you’re using the Sword.

You are not likely to earthshaker then flurry since both use adrenaline and if you don’t have your adrenaline maxed for flurry, it isn’t worth using.

That 1 secone immobolize is also only on 1 person because leg specialist has a 5 second cooldown. Hardly enough to waste a earthshaker on unless it is just a 1v1.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

You can guaranty ES with Staggering Blow or Back Breaker

True but this gives you an additional option that works from 600 range. Do you think it’s overkill?

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Posted by: Morelia.6835

Morelia.6835

I think the only time leg specialist is worth taking is when combining it the arms trait opportunist. 1 sec immo. is negligible for single target

1 sec Immob is enough to set up a full Earthshaker combo and guarantees the Flurry followup if you’re using the Sword.

You are not likely to earthshaker then flurry since both use adrenaline and if you don’t have your adrenaline maxed for flurry, it isn’t worth using.

That 1 secone immobolize is also only on 1 person because leg specialist has a 5 second cooldown. Hardly enough to waste a earthshaker on unless it is just a 1v1.

I worded that poorly, it was meant as an additional example.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

You can guaranty ES with Staggering Blow or Back Breaker

True but this gives you an additional option that works from 600 range. Do you think it’s overkill?

No, like I said, when you weigh the benefits of leg specialist compared to the benefits of other traits you could get with those 10 points, leg specialist isn’t worth it on it’s own. If you combine it with opportunist it might be worth while looking into for a sword build to get more fury up time.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Olba.5376

Olba.5376

Except that Hamstring cleaves.

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

TLDR version since many seem to have forgotten the original point.

leg specialist should take into consideration the fact that the skill being used is an AOE cripple even with a 5 sec internal CD if I use hammer cripple it should cripple & immobilize all targets hit and than go on internal CD.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

TLDR version since many seem to have forgotten the original point.

leg specialist should take into consideration the fact that the skill being used is an AOE cripple even with a 5 sec internal CD if I use hammer cripple it should cripple & immobilize all targets hit and than go on internal CD.

The cooldown should just be removed. It was fine as it was, just got changed with the patch that fixed the AC to not use this trait like it was.

Leg specialist was fine as a trait before, not worth it now, especially considering that guardian hammer 3 has a immobolize range attack that hits several people in a line for 2 seconds of immobolize.

Combined with sword getting it’t skills swapped, leg specialist isn’t that good to have unless all your fights are going to be 1v1.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: JETWING.2759

JETWING.2759

TLDR version since many seem to have forgotten the original point.

leg specialist should take into consideration the fact that the skill being used is an AOE cripple even with a 5 sec internal CD if I use hammer cripple it should cripple & immobilize all targets hit and than go on internal CD.

Agree!

The solution is:
1 – Replace Criple in Sword auto attack for another effect. Torment would be a good option.
2 – Remove CD of this trait.

Easy!

(edited by JETWING.2759)

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

Leg specialist was fine as a trait before, not worth it now, especially considering that guardian hammer 3 has a immobolize range attack that hits several people in a line for 2 seconds of immobolize.

What does that have to do with anything?

Why does it not?

I want my leg specialist back the way it was without the cool down so that if I do use a skill that would apply the immobolize to several people, it will like it should. It is a traited ability after all. Too many people liked to complain about warrior when they were complaing about the wrong class.

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Posted by: Olba.5376

Olba.5376

The cooldown should just be removed. It was fine as it was, just got changed with the patch that fixed the AC to not use this trait like it was.

There was a short period after a recent patch where the ICD was removed.

Didn’t take more than an hour after the patch for QQ topics about Hamstring (sword autoattack) to appear.

Leg specialist was fine as a trait before, not worth it now, especially considering that guardian hammer 3 has a immobolize range attack that hits several people in a line for 2 seconds of immobolize.

Combined with sword getting it’t skills swapped, leg specialist isn’t that good to have unless all your fights are going to be 1v1.

One of the reasons why Leg Specialist needs the ICD is because of the Sword autoattack. A 1s immobilize isn’t that cool on a skill with an 8-12s cooldown, but the autoattack chain takes <2s from start to finish. That’s an almost permanent, rapidly reapplied immobilize.

(edited by Olba.5376)

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

TLDR version since many seem to have forgotten the original point.

leg specialist should take into consideration the fact that the skill being used is an AOE cripple even with a 5 sec internal CD if I use hammer cripple it should cripple & immobilize all targets hit and than go on internal CD.

Agree!

The solution is:
1 – Replace Criple in Sword auto attack for another effect. Torment would be a good option.
2 – Remove CD of this trait.

Easy!

- The internal CD on leg specialist was placed for the sake of AC in WvW, that is wrong.

another anet stop gap measure, nerf the trait instead of fixing the siege !

Tbh, I could care less about sword cripple / immobilize that is a single target skill and is working kinda as intended, my beef with leg specialist is that it doesn’t work properly with AOE cripple.

EDIT
- your idea would indeed fix the problem on further thought.

(edited by Latinkuro.9420)

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Posted by: Buzzcrave.6197

Buzzcrave.6197

Leg specialist got changed to having a 5 second cool down.

It isn’t very good now.

It got changed because of the arrow cart utilizing traits at that time and people like to whine about stuff all the time so it got nerfed hard.

What do you expect when people whine instead of learning how to deal with stuff.

The easiest fix is to make sieges skill will not be affected by the players using it. But eh, Anet love to fix something that doesn’t need to be fix, while leaving the stuff that need to be fixed remained the same.