Guild Wars 2

i think we all know, after the heartseeker nerf, its time for the best class in the game to be nerfed, not only do you have the damage on a heartseeker strike + haste thief in 1 ability on a 8 second cooldown (hundred blades) you also have what is pretty much the easiest pve(2 shotting lvl 80 mobs without thought) , and pvp builds(1 shotting clothies) in the game, while still being one of the best for dungeons because of the pleathora of healing skills, knockdowns, cc, cc reduction and heavy armor. its time to nerf the most overpowered class in the game.

i say a general across the board 20% reduction in damage is necessary to bring it in line with the other classes. heck maybe a 20% base hp nerf too. its completely unfair other classes are pigeonholed in to 1 or 2 builds while warriors have the capability to do EVERYTHING extremely well with what might as well be button smashing. heck the last patch they BUFFED you guys for some stupid reason.

Hmm, I guess you play Eng. Warriors need buffed if anything. They only have 1 viable skill set. Guardian is 10x better at healing and tanking. Sounds like you need to load a warrior and see how beat down you get.

Also, compairing Heartseeker to HB is ridiculous because HB is easily avoided and Heartseeker spam is not.

p.s. most warrior players agree with the fact that warriors are lack luster on their tanking ability.

So much bias. Have you tried playing warrior at least once in arena? please try and come back here.

I wanna see you say that after you get cripple, blind, snare, stun, enemies becoming invisible, flying away, shooting to push you far away from them, nest turrents etc All the time..

then when you finally have a chance to actually reach the target, you use all ur 1 minuto CD combo (frenzy) just to realize you just wasted it in a mesmer identical copie.

Please, try it.

Obvious troll.

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the main diference of warriors from other classes is that all most all of them can make an “anti-melee – warrior” build, with a lot of snares, blinds, pulling etc. While the warrior cant do any “anti x” thing.

man i hate these threads. how about you dont worry about nerfing other classes and instead concentrate on helping the devs work on improving your own class jeez

Warriors are completely OP. Bull Charge+ Frenzy+100 Blades instantly kills anyone under 14k. If they do get away with a shred of life they get bola’d and can be easily killed by spamming your basic attack which crits for over 2k. You have massive amounts of health making it impossible for another class to easily burst you out. If your playing a warrior and you think they aren’t OP than your clueless. Its impossible to build an “anti-melee” build if you are instantly killed by 3 skills from a distance. But nice try.

Solosite.8096:

Warriors are completely OP. Bull Charge+ Frenzy+100 Blades instantly kills anyone under 14k. If they do get away with a shred of life they get bola’d and can be easily killed by spamming your basic attack which crits for over 2k. You have massive amounts of health making it impossible for another class to easily burst you out. If your playing a warrior and you think they aren’t OP than your clueless. Its impossible to build an “anti-melee” build if you are instantly killed by 3 skills from a distance. But nice try.

At for that same risk that they run with no CC breakers or Condition Removers, they can easily get facekittenthemselves. It’s just like any other build, a High risk build for high rewards. You can Dodge. Or just move. You have CC removals and etc. If you honestly can’t get away from that then something is wrong with you.

As a warrior, Bolas, BullCharge, Frenzy, Rage. They literally have NO CC Breaker. If you can’t kill a warrior when they have none. You are just bad.

Lets nerf useless trolls like you who make useless nerf threads.

Don’t feed the trolls.

why nerf a class and not just buff other classes? nerfing is not the way!

Kids these days need to take Trolling 101. I suppose it’d be good for adults as well, seeing as so many fall victim to even the most remedial of trolls.

Solosite.8096:

Bull Charge+ Frenzy+100 Blades instantly kills anyone stupid enough to just stand there. .

Fixed it for you.

There is no problem with Hundred Blades. The inherent problem is with Quickness and it is that way with every class that can use Quickness and a skill that outputs a large amount of damage. My opinion is to remove quickness from the game as it really isn’t needed at all, again that is my opinion.

I would however like to see Greatsword altered slightly to make it more about Hundred Blades being a skill used less frequently but more effectively (excluding quickness). This could be done by swapping the Burst skill Arcing Slice (and we all know it is rather pointless as a burst skill) with Hundred Blades. This effectively makes Arcing Slice adequate as a skill and Hundred Blades less spamable but still strong.

Arcing Slice would still apply Fury for say 3 seconds. Hundred Blade would still deal the 8 strikes for ~1176 but maybe at +25%, 50% & 75% increased damage. Retaining that fact that quickness will remain in the game, this would make FOTM Hundred Blades specs not as effective and require a more choice moment to throw off the attack. As many of you may not know Hundred Blades is meant for AoE damage as most of the greatsword skills are meant for, not single target.

bull’s charge + 100b is incredibly easy to dodge and there are plenty of skills that render the combo useless even if bull’s charge hits (uses every cooldown too). Also, 100b is one of the most balanced skills in the game… You perform 8 attacks, the last one being the most powerful, and you’re rooted the whole time. So in that sense, face melting actually isn’t one directional.

Kanashi, Hundred Blades only affects like 4 targets, so that is not a very good AoE skill.

Hundred Blades is also the only skill greatsword has that is worth anything, apart from 100B the ranger and guardian greatsword skills for example are far superior. Some people like using big swords, and apart from 100B there is no reason to not use the hammer or axes.

I used to think 100B is overpowered too, but after actually playing it instead of just whining about it like I did before, I realized it really isn’t.. it’s a one trick pony build that is incredibly easily avoided, and it leaves the warrior completely vulnerable.. they may take out one target like that IF that target wasted all his dodges and stun breakers, after which the next opponent will faceroll them.

To be honest I wouldn’t even mind 100B being removed, if they would improve the greatsword’s utility and give it another way to be effective. Right now all it can do is that one trick against one single opponent, when it fails you’re useless and will die long before you can try again, as you have absolutely no survivability.

Zsymon.8457:

Kanashi, Hundred Blades only affects like 4 targets, so that is not a very good AoE skill.

And how many targets are there in a 5v5 tournament? Please do tell. Honestly post the exact amount of targets with source and we can discuss it further.

I got an idea lets nerf warriors till they are the most kittenkitten class in the game.

gs warriors that use hb as their primary damaging ability in PvP are essentially useless. WW and blade trail are much more effective.

Anyone that complains about 100b is just bad at the game. Just learn how to play already.

@OP

Your argument is full of sweeping generalizations. You have a lot of vague, ambiguous, and forced rhetoric. Matter of fact, you have no argument as you’ve clearly shown a lack knowledge when you argue against the warrior profession.

How did you come to the conclusion the Warrior profession needs a 20% reduction in both damage and hit points?

Did you actually research how many healing abilities a warrior has? The only healing abilities a Warrior has is located through the number 6 key, and all players have 1 healing ability available to them during a fight unless they trait, rune, and sigil themselves for more healing; and a warrior’s shouts cannot heal unless the player places 30 points into their vitality trait line.

Warrior is the only profession who doesn’t have a limited amount of builds or traits? Can the readers see all 8 professions side by side while you explain these limited amount of builds, or do you plan to simply tell everyone Warrior has no pigeonholes?

A Warrior is really one “shoting clothies,” or the only one capable of one “shoting clothies?” Can the readers see some definitive information, and perhaps a lot of videos, or something recording this epic “one shot.” I think you need to test, experiment, and gather a lot more information before you make claims like these, and who are the clothies? Every profession in GW2 can have a lot of toughness, support utilities, and use certain runes and sigils that help them turn into a wall of does-not-die.

The warrior was buffed in which way? Are you referring to a time reduction in one bow ability? Then the Warrior wasn’t buffed, and an ability was changed or balanced.

All 8 professions have many forms of crowd control, escape mechanics, condition removal, and boon stacking, or as you put it a “plethora.”

Hundred Blades roots the Warrior and the damage is a channel. Frenzy increases all damage to the Warrior by 50% for 4 seconds. All professions have utilities that break stuns or give stability.

You destroy your own credibility when all you do is nay-say with no actual information, and in point make yourself look like the fool who doesn’t know what he/she is talking about because you don’t.

Guys when i stand still and afk to get a drink i come back to find im dead from hundred blades.

Noob. The answer is simple. DONT NERF THE WARRIOR!!! It’s class was meant to be a big meaty tanker. that’s what Anet wanted it to be! Look I don’t mean to bag on you or anything but you really aren’t being smart about this. I think you just got mad cause a warrior kept killing you in PvP. It’s not fair for the warrior to be just another slow, low damage hitter when the name “Warrior” speaks for itself. Now, as they say in life, “If you can’t beat them, join them.”

ChrisBDA.1658:

man i hate these threads. how about you dont worry about nerfing other classes and instead concentrate on helping the devs work on improving your own class jeez

Well said bro.

As this discussion has run its course, this thread is closed.
Thank you for your understanding.