Mace Windu / Erf Shaakur (sPVP)

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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Posted by: jadaniel.4910

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What does high win rate mean spvp, 1v1, OS, you win because don’t die but you can’t kill anything? What professions have you fought and won? Do you have videos? Screen shots? Not much to discuss…

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@ jadaniel.4910
-Spvp ofc
-Don’t assume that i can’t kill anything and give constructive responses why build is good or bad.
-All of them
-No videos , no pic.

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Posted by: jadaniel.4910

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@ jadaniel.4910
-Spvp ofc
-Don’t assume that i can’t kill anything and give constructive responses why build is good or bad.
-All of them
-No videos , no pic.

I can offer my opinion on the build. =] I wasn’t sure what you wanted to discuss.

Skills:
Weapon choice is pretty solid. M/S -always good defenses and major CC. Hammer more offensive highly telegraphed is its downside, why I would choose GS over it. However based on the traits this is a better synergy with distracting shots. Utilities are good. I always take rampage and healing sig in spvp. Rampage has good CC and fleeing abilities. Healing sig great here because of high toughness/vitality. three stances are always good. Two great Oh kitten utilities. Drawback is high CD rate and no supporting traits.

Traits:
I would take cleansing ire over last stand and switch frenzy for dolyak signet. <might mess up your playstyle so dunno>. Would also take brawler’s recovery <again my preference> more condi removal on both those suggestions. Strength is kind of wasted tier I find myself in arms with 1 4 7 to be little more helpful.

Runes/Armor/Sigils:
Armor is pretty solid. Crusader might make you more powerful but lower health pool. <give and take there>. Melandru is always solid choice. Would switch force on shield for paralyzation. Hammer sigils look good.

Edit: Overall seems pretty tanky build. Against other tanks might take a while to kill them but definitely see survival in this and some nice CC coming out. Some ify synergy between traits/weapon/utilities. Might suggest tweaking those if you can.

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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-Taking Cleansing ire over Last Stand is bad for following reason : No lower CD on 3 stances and no extra vigor. For condition management there is berserker stance for initiation, signet for heavy condi spikes (burning ++3) and melandru runes for mitigation of lesser condies.

-Adrenaline management (due to lack of cleansing ire) is achieved from B. stance, Frenzy and Countering Blow. Countering blow is so spammable that you can build up some adrenaline while going from cap point to cap point.

-Frenzy is needed to land a Skull Crack due to its initial delay and super obvious animation. Altho i usually time it after shield bash if they don’t stunk break away (mesmers)

-Yep, paralyzation sounds better.

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Posted by: jadaniel.4910

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-Taking Cleansing ire over Last Stand is bad for following reason : No lower CD on 3 stances and no extra vigor. For condition management there is berserker stance for initiation, signet for heavy condi spikes (burning ++3) and melandru runes for mitigation of lesser condies.

Apparently I can’t read well. Yes this makes sense.

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Posted by: Thuggernaut.1250

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Pretty bold not to run brawler’s recovery or cleansing ire. How do you deal with conditions when healing signet and berserker’s stance go on cooldown? Melandru runes can only go so far.

Why run heightened focus when you use frenzy in your build? At least you can control timing on frenzy.

I think this build would be better if you switched destruction of the empowered to brawler’s recovery, and if you switched heightened focus to merciless hammer. Merciless hammer is pretty much mandatory to offset the ridiculous cooldowns on hammer.

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Posted by: DresdenAllblack.1249

DresdenAllblack.1249

Is Mace/Mace viable now? The shield gives a stun, mace gives a KD and vulnerability. So is it a matter of taste, or is the shield that much better?

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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@ Thuggernaut.1250
I don’t have issues with conditions. Lots of interruptions also reduce the amount of conditions applied.

Heightened focus is somehow a must. I find the cooldown on merciless hammer is unnecessary cause you got plenty of rupts at disposal. Most of the time i’m on the mace/shield set.

Can’t go brawler’s cause i need every bit of dmg so i can actually kill.

@DresdenAllblack.1249
Shield is a must because Shiled Stance. It’s priceless for illusion spikes, necros when they go shroud and leeroy zerker thieves and warriors for their spike. Also you can hold point longer.

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Posted by: Shala.8352

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this build soffer too much opponent kiting or decent dodge usage

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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this build soffer too much opponent kiting or decent dodge usage

There’s not much option to kite inside circle. I don’t know what you mean by decent dodge usage.

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Posted by: Gamgee.8612

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I think this build is too spread out. It’s really tanky but with those weapons I’d play it like try to pin down and land a combo that hits hard. This build ain’t gonna crit hard or often enough for that. Maybe you play it in a different way. I’d really like to see some footage where all of these trait and sigil choices comes together nicely, but I doubt that’s gonna happen.

Like that entire Strength Traitline wasted on distracting strikes setup when you have 0 condition damage. Or Melandru runes without Dogged March or condition duration food. I would play a much more traditional build. Fair play trying to break out of the meta but that is very hard, not all traits go together.

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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

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No damage, gets kited like a legless toddler, blind spam hard counters this build, condis with blind spam murder this build, zero mobility, zero team support…

This build should be good against special needs thieves who can’t find dodge and don’t run shadowstep.

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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

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this build soffer too much opponent kiting or decent dodge usage

There’s not much option to kite inside circle. I don’t know what you mean by decent dodge usage.

Mesmer can stand outside of the circle for 5 seconds to kill you, then take the point back. You can’t bunker against two people for long because you lack healing and active mitigation.

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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@Gamgee.8612
It’s not supposed to crit. It’s not supposed to tank. Only power. Strength Traitline is used for peak performance.
Read the title , this is for spvp. No food.
The massive damage comes from rampage. I though everyone was aware of that by now. I took distracting strikes only for minor condi pressure.

YuiRS.8129
Eh your assumptions are wrong. I suggest you actually try build.
Damage is ok. Rampage is source for even more damage if needed. The amount of stun lock is to prevent kiting, but again i’m capping circles not chasing.

This is not supposed to be bunker.
I’m not even gonna comment on “Mesmer can stand outside of the circle for 5 seconds to kill you”.
Be more constructive.

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Posted by: choovanski.5462

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNApeSj8cQlH25BueApIGqCKsAagAQ7hY/ByNorTBA-TpBCwAAOBAZOCAYeAAfLDQ5QAEd/BA

that’s what i run for m/sh ham. more cc (imob and fears) mo support. still debating sigils and perhaps moving back to mainhand sword instead of mace for final thrust and more mobility. i feel like if you are going to bunk you should run the AOE heals.

homes, you run soldiers hammer with no Int sigils… dude change your ways

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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

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@Gamgee.8612
It’s not supposed to crit. It’s not supposed to tank. Only power. Strength Traitline is used for peak performance.
Read the title , this is for spvp. No food.
The massive damage comes from rampage. I though everyone was aware of that by now. I took distracting strikes only for minor condi pressure.

YuiRS.8129
Eh your assumptions are wrong. I suggest you actually try build.
Damage is ok. Rampage is source for even more damage if needed. The amount of stun lock is to prevent kiting, but again i’m capping circles not chasing.

This is not supposed to be bunker.
I’m not even gonna comment on “Mesmer can stand outside of the circle for 5 seconds to kill you”.
Be more constructive.

A non-crit power build does “ok” damage? Sure. Whatever you say.

And what do you do anyway? You stand in the circle to cap it and then die and give it back? How do you stay in the circle against engies? How do you survive blind/condi spam from eles that goes through your toughness when you can’t reliably land a burst skill? How do you get around from point to point without any mobility to do you “circle capping” duty?

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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@YuiRS.8129
I only cap close and mid. Far only if no one bothers to cap in team. For mobility there is a warrior sprint only. Since GS mobility is nerfed i don’t see a reason to take it anymore.
Against engies rely on blocks, berserker stance and interupts. Destroy turrets if any. CC and daze to keep them in check.
For mobile condi eles pop rampage. The burst you want comes from rampage i mentioned that earlier.

I hope that answers your questions.
Again i suggest you to try the build. I can’t cover all situations that happen is spvp here.

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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

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I tried a similar build, though it was some time since then, so I can sure give it a shot now. Hey, if it works for you, that’s great.

Just ran a practice game with your build. It’s actually worse than I thought lol. Everything of what I say applied. This build can’t kill anything, can’t duel anything, especially FotMs like eles and mesmers. It’s a very weak melee stunbot without any damage or any real staying power. A D/D ele is worth three warriors like this.

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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YuiRS.8129
Sorry if this didn’t work for you. Maybe you just had bad circumstances.

But also almost every post of yours in this forum is kinda pessimistic and in negative connotation. You stated several times that warrior has no place in Spvp now , that warrior is only worth because of rampage and that all classes can beat warrior with minor to medium difficulty. I do not have these issues.

I won’t try anymore to justify this build to someone that thinks that warrior has no place in spvp. But i hope you change your mind about warrior spvp place in general.
Still i appreciate your input on this.

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Posted by: choovanski.5462

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YuiRS.8129
Sorry if this didn’t work for you. Maybe you just had bad circumstances.

But also almost every post of yours in this forum is kinda pessimistic and in negative connotation. You stated several times that warrior has no place in Spvp now , that warrior is only worth because of rampage and that all classes can beat warrior with minor to medium difficulty. I do not have these issues.

I won’t try anymore to justify this build to someone that thinks that warrior has no place in spvp. But i hope you change your mind about warrior spvp place in general.
Still i appreciate your input on this.

homes you run soldiers hammer with no Intel sigils. you are bonkers

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Posted by: NvN.4321

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homes you run soldiers hammer with no Intel sigils. you are bonkers

:o

Dude, i’ve been missing so much… Thanks. It never occurred to me.

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Posted by: Gamgee.8612

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@Gamgee.8612
It’s not supposed to crit. It’s not supposed to tank. Only power. Strength Traitline is used for peak performance.
Read the title , this is for spvp. No food.
The massive damage comes from rampage. I though everyone was aware of that by now. I took distracting strikes only for minor condi pressure.

So what do you suggest its role is? You do not have enough damage to kill anything, and not enough survival to outlast anything. Don’t even try to tell me you think 2.2K power and just white damage is even OK damage. Distracting strikes won’t do kitten for “condi pressure” it’s 200 damage on skill use for 8 seconds. It’s maximum an extra 1k damage if you manage to interrupt somebody and if they don’t clean it off for 8 seconds. Berserker’s power is completely controlled and is applied when you decide it to be and it’s got no upper limit, just 20% of the actual hit. Rampage won’t do enough for this build to work.

P.S I know it’s Spvp that’s why I stated that you won’t use any food.

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Posted by: Sykper.6583

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- Add Intelligence to Hammer, swapping out Energy

- Energy goes into Shield, remove 5% damage. Mace Sigil is choice between Impact (perfectly fine, you are hitting hard anyways) or Doom (Poison is such a good utility against sustain builds).

- DotE is nice, but since you are CCing rather intently you shouldn’t be taking conditions too often, NOR should the enemy get a chance to get his boons up. Ergo I would suggest taking Brawler’s Recovery just for the weapon swapping condi-clear, since you are capable of being kited when Zerker Stance is on CD.

- Frenzy is another choice I could swap out for Bull’s Charge for the utility of closing gaps or getting out, as well as utilizing Warrior’s Sprint to break out of Immobilizes.

Overall, I run a very close build to yours, and if you do not have the critical chance to back up your critical hits, you can at least amplify your high-might swings with an Intelligence Sigil on your hammer, as that plus Impact make for a squashed enemy.

As for what role this serves in SPvP, its more used in fights on points with allies rather than 1v1 (it will fair well in 1v1s, but you do better in 2v2s or 3v3s).

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