Guild Wars 2

50% critical-hit change against stunned foes

What is up with this? Is it +50% to my already 52% crit chance, meaning a 102% crit chance against stunned foes? Can’t be, as sometimes I’ll get non-crit hits on stunned enemies. Maybe it’s the first hit only? There is ambiguity here that I need someone to clarify, if anyone knows.

It’s an additive 50%, so yes you’ll hit above 100% in some situations. And it will only kick in against a specifically "stun"ned enemy, knockdowns don’t work.

skullcrack, shield bash, earthshaker, and whirling strike only

and of course stuns that allies apply

It adds 50% crit to stunned foes no matter who applies the stun. And only stuns. Not knockown, knockback, daze, or other control measures. Additive to whatever your current crit% is, and lasts for as long as the foe in question is stunned. And to further clarify for skills that stun, the stun is applied before the damage so the damage of that ability will be modified by the +50% crit chance.

If you’re getting non-crits on stunned enemies are you sure the stun ability didn’t miss, was blocked, or dodged? Also there are certain abilities in the game that are incapable of critting, although I don’t know the names of any off-hand.

Sagramor.7395:

And to further clarify for skills that stun, the stun is applied before the damage so the damage of that ability will be modified by the +50% crit chance.

Simple testing with stat combos resulting in more than 50% crit chance shows in spvp that mace f1 and shieldbash do not get guaranteed 100% crit. Earthshaker (hammer f1) does which is where this statement has come from, but the mechanics aren’t consistent with the other 2 weapons.

I almost never use Mace, and only use Shield Bash to land a guaranteed crit Eviscerate so I never really payed attention to it’s damage. That’s what I get for assuming.

Yeah mace F1 and shield don’t work with it.

I’m not sure if it’s intentional or if it has something to do with earthshaker being aoe.

It’s just the mechanic of the ability. Earthshaker goes Stun then Damage, the other two’s go Damage then Stun.

Sagramor.7395:

Cut.

Its working on stun/daze

peter.9024:

Yeah mace F1 and shield don’t work with it.

Incorrect, they do work with it and it’s the basis behind the Skull Crack+100b that makes all strikes critical if you have fury up.

BurrTheKing.8571:

peter.9024:

Yeah mace F1 and shield don’t work with it.

Incorrect, they do work with it and it’s the basis behind the Skull Crack+100b that makes all strikes critical if you have fury up.

No, mace f1 and shield bash don’t work with the trait, the attacks that follow them do. The 100b you do AFTER works with the trait but, unlike earthshaker, the stuns on mace f1 and shield bash are currently applied after damage calculations. In a Skull Crack -> 100b build your skull crack itself will only have a 50% crit chance while your 100b has 100%.

Player Character.9467:

BurrTheKing.8571:

peter.9024:

Yeah mace F1 and shield don’t work with it.

Incorrect, they do work with it and it’s the basis behind the Skull Crack+100b that makes all strikes critical if you have fury up.

No, mace f1 and shield bash don’t work with the trait, the attacks that follow them do. The 100b you do AFTER works with the trait but, unlike earthshaker, the stuns on mace f1 and shield bash are currently applied after damage calculations. In a Skull Crack -> 100b build your skull crack itself will only have a 50% crit chance while your 100b has 100%.

I misread what you were saying, I thought you meant that the stuns applied by them didn’t give attacks after than the crit increase. Actually, I’ve found that using Pommel Bash followed by Shield Bash/Skull Cracker makes the attack almost always crits, making me wonder if Daze is being counted as a stun.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Player Character.9467:

BurrTheKing.8571:

peter.9024:

Yeah mace F1 and shield don’t work with it.

Incorrect, they do work with it and it’s the basis behind the Skull Crack+100b that makes all strikes critical if you have fury up.

No, mace f1 and shield bash don’t work with the trait, the attacks that follow them do. The 100b you do AFTER works with the trait but, unlike earthshaker, the stuns on mace f1 and shield bash are currently applied after damage calculations. In a Skull Crack -> 100b build your skull crack itself will only have a 50% crit chance while your 100b has 100%.

I misread what you were saying, I thought you meant that the stuns applied by them didn’t give attacks after than the crit increase. Actually, I’ve found that using Pommel Bash followed by Shield Bash/Skull Cracker makes the attack almost always crits, making me wonder if Daze is being counted as a stun.

I’ll test it tonight.