Meta Phalanx Variation.
Why do you go for movement speed in discipline when you have the warhorn? I’d drop 1 point from discipline and get signet mastery from the adept slot instead, and move the point to arms for the extra precision and 10% damage bonus. You won’t lose much while gaining a bit of more personal dps and might uptime. Also soldiers armor is bad for a PS build, if you are not ready for zerk/assasins at least use knights, you need all the crit you can get to make the party might worth the personal dps loss.
(edited by Vizardlorde.8243)
Yeah, good point on the horn. I overlooked that entirely.
And yeah, the +10% from Arms would be useful.
The reason I was running Soldier’s was for face tank. The build has close to constant Fury, and adding in the Banner, it runs 71% Crit Rate. I am running Zerker Accessories though.
If I drop the Soldier’s for Knight’s, the Crit increases to 81%. I don’t have a problem doing so, I just figured the ability to soak hits would be beneficial to party supprt as the damage is not terribad & it should be able to keep Might stacks up for the whole party very high all by itself.
(edited by Brokenangel.1389)
Phalanx Strength damage isn’t exceptional even in Berserker armor/weapons, and you can do all the same supporting using it, pulling more damage which is even more supportive so you’re better off using that
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Imo if you are running phalanx then dedicate all your build for it.
this mean 100% crit chance, pure GS and using the new food Fried Golden Dumpling, most of the time i play with another warrior where he is all about banners/dps and i run a full signet build to maximize my damage and still as the only source of might for my party i keep it 25 stacks all the time
if i’m the only warrior i switch to banners and just take the precision oil instead of stones.
(edited by Juba.8406)
Imo if you are running phalanx then dedicate all your build for it.
this mean 100% crit chance, pure GS and using the new food Fried Golden Dumpling, most of the time i play with another warrior where he is all about banners/dps and i run a full signet build to maximize my damage and still as the only source of might for my party i keep it 25 stacks all the time
if i’m the only warrior i switch to banners and just take the precision oil instead of stones.
Your setup is just… cringe…
In parties this is the best phalanx strength setup assuming you’re using the new food that gives +20% boon duration and might on crit:
If you aren’t using the new food then strength runes + truffle steak would be better, and if your party already is maintaining capped vuln on bosses then you can swap frailty to accuracy/night or whatever you please.
That setup is overkill on crit and crappy on support. You don’t need more than 70% crit because between banner spotter and fury you get ~35% crit heck even without spotter it’s around 28%. Secondly you are taking away banners and reducing might uptime by taking away signet mastery and having 10sec weaponswap vs 5secs.
Your setup is just… cringe…
In parties this is the best phalanx strength setup assuming you’re using the new food that gives +20% boon duration and might on crit:
If you aren’t using the new food then strength runes + truffle steak would be better, and if your party already is maintaining capped vuln on bosses then you can swap frailty to accuracy/night or whatever you please.
This is defently not the best phalanx build for PuG groups, though. I know the changes from strength rune to sholar rune while using the boon duration bufffood, because I have asked Nike something similar few weeks ago.
But I would never recommend this for PuG groups. Even in well organized groups it’s pretty hard to keep up 25 stacks of might all the time. One little mistake from you or your elementalist and the might will drop completly. So especally for PuG groups strenght runes are very important.
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(edited by dominik.9721)
If you’re in really crappy groups you shouldn’t bother with phalanx strength a lot of the time anyways because there’s no coordination in those. Therefore if I was in a pug I would never use phalanx.
I offered the optimal setup, so this assumes optimal conditions as well. Never did I say in my post “bring this to pugs.”
In well organised groups if there’s a PS warrior there’s absolutely no issue with maintaining capped might. There should always be ~2 eles, sometimes 3, if you want to maximize efficiency and two eles alone have absolutely no issue with providing minimally 6 might each.
We all have different standards and different experiences when we play, there’s no denying it.
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Your setup is just… cringe…
In parties this is the best phalanx strength setup assuming you’re using the new food that gives +20% boon duration and might on crit:
If you aren’t using the new food then strength runes + truffle steak would be better, and if your party already is maintaining capped vuln on bosses then you can swap frailty to accuracy/night or whatever you please.
That setup is overkill on crit and crappy on support. You don’t need more than 70% crit because between banner spotter and fury you get ~35% crit heck even without spotter it’s around 28%. Secondly you are taking away banners and reducing might uptime by taking away signet mastery and having 10sec weaponswap vs 5secs.
yes im pretty sure its not the best, nor im trying to beat records or having the best party members.
my goal was simply……. if i am to generate Might for my party, then why not doing it @ 100% efficiency ? ,,,,,,,, every hit from me must mean at least 1 might shared to 4 other players, this means 100% crit chance + pure GS camping (no need for fast hands) & the new food made it even better.
72% crit chance (since u gonna use SoR) + 20% Fury + 8% from banner = 100% crit chance, i personally never seen a spotter ranger yet so im not factoring it in, if im the only warrior and used banner + oil it will get to 102% but in severe loss of power.
and yes im not using optimal sigils, it can get better but can’t afford a new ascended GS for just PvE currently.
but a quick look on the build you linked, mine is better dps/support even if i switched to banners.
but a quick look on the build you linked, mine is better dps/support even if i switched to banners.
Wrong by a clear mile.
Your trait point allocation, sigils, armor stats all contradict this.
If you’re on a warrior in a group, you’re absolutely worthless outside of might and vuln generating and banners. If you’re not bringing banners then why are you there?
(edited by Ark.9586)
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pure build vs pure build = mine is better , (Power/100% crit/MightGeneration) your build is better at applying vulnerability + better crit dmg but this makes you generate less might, i doubt this to beat the difference in Power and crit chance.
You based yours on an “optimal party”, where other members help in generating might giving your PS warrior a bit of a relief, since you are hitting the might cap anyway , applying vulnerability becomes more valuable, which should be “overall” better but again considering you have an “optimal party”.
i based mine on the fact that i have another warrior in party, he brings Banners, I bring Might, not any might, a guaranteed 25 stacks of might generated by me alone, my party could just drop the might generation issue and focus on other things since i got that covered for them.
of course when i am the only warrior i switch to banners, i lose power but still i generate that 25 stacks of might.
What’s the point in taking another warrior…?
Even if there’s a second warrior, then why are you both running phalanx wtf?
Your logic… there’s just none whatsoever. It makes no sense.
why are you both running phalanx wtf?
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i never said that
What’s the point in taking another warrior…?
Even if there’s a second warrior, then why are you both running phalanx wtf?
Your logic… there’s just none whatsoever. It makes no sense.
Yeah, gotta agree with Ark here. If there’s already a Phalanx Warrior, why bring another?
I dislike the Zerker setup you’re going for Juba, but if it works for you, the by all means rock that boat.
Ark, your build is very similar to mine, but I’d still like to have a thin layer of added armor, so I think I’ll run Knight’s over Zerker (armor only).
I prefer For Great Justice over the Signet for the Might stack, also that ensures a near 100% uptime on Fury. The overall setup I’m planning runs about an 80% Crit rate without accounting for food or Spotter.
I would use the Dumplings, but aren’t they lucky envelope items only? You can’t make them can you? If so, no reason to get used to them if one day they’re gone.
The build I’m going for is designed to bolster everyone else to such a degree that the DPS loss from me balances out with what there gaining. It also allows me higher survivability so if things turn south, I can play recovery & swing a bad battle by surviving.
Being as I’ve not tested the build, it may prove terribad. I’ll have to play around with it to be sure.
I like that the warrior can do some damage & bolster the party as significantly as this build allows. That appeals to me. I mean, 180 Power/Precision/Ferocity/CD plus 750 Power/CD… That’s pretty attractive…
(edited by Brokenangel.1389)