My name is ScoHook and I am a bleed warrior.

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

Q:

…and I think I need help…

Hi guys,

Some 8 months ago I was a bleed warrior with full sigils for crit. Apparently that is not the smartest way to play and as I try to get back into the game I just might change to become a better warrior.

The thing is, I am weird. Style is pretty important to me and I think it looks somehow ridiculous how a warrior carries a weapon in off-hand. I mean, he just needs to stumble once and would impale himself. Dumb choice.

So, is there a viable built with Greatsword / Hammer? I am thinking Longbow for secondary.

I would prefer something tanky, soldiers stats or something. Mostly for PvE Open world and perhaps some WvW. Non Dungeons. Usually playing alone.

I have about 10 Gold for gear.

Thanks and Cheers
Sco

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

Look into Knight’s gear or PVT gear. Theoretically, you could go full 30 defense 30 tactics and be relatively survivable, however this is offset by lack of power and precision. So if you like seeing those big numbers, you might want to try a glass build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJASTjcOxwtQqQMxBE0DNsK4iTBlI9QMODzA-jkxAYsARICUCsIas1uioxqtx0wER1SBYxYA-w

Threw that together quick for just an idea

I’ll try to go more in depth when I get off work and in a computer not my smartphone

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

That looks quite good. Do you think 30/0/20/20/0 could be viable? I haven’t played in some time and I really can’t tell from the descriptions alone.

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Posted by: Fafnir.5124

Fafnir.5124

How good would it be if they create a more stable bizerker bleed build(aka Gutz). 60%bleed on critics with sigil of earth rocks when combined with bleed duration. Make it rain blood.

Precision/Crit damage/Condition damage

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

Just as a reference, that was what I was running so far:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseUjkO5u9OGPMxBA0jrqaLThfOPSCqpA-j0xAINBRKAIVJQ5vioxWNLiGr2kIq2bQEVDA-w

I actually hope to get away from bleeding and to direct damage. The limited stack to 25 makes the built useless in a mob

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

Just as a reference, that was what I was running so far:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseUjkO5u9OGPMxBA0jrqaLThfOPSCqpA-j0xAINBRKAIVJQ5vioxWNLiGr2kIq2bQEVDA-w

I actually hope to get away from bleeding and to direct damage. The limited stack to 25 makes the built useless in a mob

The problem with condition warrior is all its damage comes from one condition but a lot of it. Where one cure will take it all away.

On my necromancer I can put Confusion Burning Chill Bleeding Poison Torment Weakness all in a short period of time. (2-3 seconds.) Then spread it to your friends with Epidemic…

I can do this all from a safe distance. Whereas a Warrior has to be in the thick of it, taking aoe damage for mediocre returns.

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

Just as a reference, that was what I was running so far:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseUjkO5u9OGPMxBA0jrqaLThfOPSCqpA-j0xAINBRKAIVJQ5vioxWNLiGr2kIq2bQEVDA-w

I actually hope to get away from bleeding and to direct damage. The limited stack to 25 makes the built useless in a mob

The problem with condition warrior is all its damage comes from one condition but a lot of it. Where one cure will take it all away.

On my necromancer I can put Confusion Burning Chill Bleeding Poison Torment Weakness all in a short period of time. (2-3 seconds.) Then spread it to your friends with Epidemic…

I can do this all from a safe distance. Whereas a Warrior has to be in the thick of it, taking aoe damage for mediocre returns.

I know, and you are right. That’s why I want to get away from the built. But I still feel like I have to defend it a bit :-D

For me it always had one neat advantage: The bleed goes well with auto attack of the sword and the rifle. One trait line and gear set works equally well for two different weapon sets.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

Just as a reference, that was what I was running so far:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseUjkO5u9OGPMxBA0jrqaLThfOPSCqpA-j0xAINBRKAIVJQ5vioxWNLiGr2kIq2bQEVDA-w

I actually hope to get away from bleeding and to direct damage. The limited stack to 25 makes the built useless in a mob

The problem with condition warrior is all its damage comes from one condition but a lot of it. Where one cure will take it all away.

On my necromancer I can put Confusion Burning Chill Bleeding Poison Torment Weakness all in a short period of time. (2-3 seconds.) Then spread it to your friends with Epidemic…

I can do this all from a safe distance. Whereas a Warrior has to be in the thick of it, taking aoe damage for mediocre returns.

I know, and you are right. That’s why I want to get away from the built. But I still feel like I have to defend it a bit :-D

For me it always had one neat advantage: The bleed goes well with auto attack of the sword and the rifle. One trait line and gear set works equally well for two different weapon sets.

Necromancer’s Scepter has Bleed-Bleed-Poison, which applies faster then rifle. (faster attack speed.)

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

How good would it be if they create a more stable bizerker bleed build(aka Gutz). 60%bleed on critics with sigil of earth rocks when combined with bleed duration. Make it rain blood.

Precision/Crit damage/Condition damage

I personally run this build:

My Meta Build

For my play style (mainly WvW), I find it to be extremely survivable with high damage capability.

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

just spitballing more ideas at you, here is a pretty tanky and decent dmg concept build

Tank & Spank

build highlights are: 3.7k toughness, 52% crit chance / 56% crit dmg, and just under 2.5k power/3.5k attack, with just under 19k hp

in theory, you have a lot of CC with this build, throw in whatever utility skills you may wish to put in there.

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

I toyed a bit with your Meta Build. I think I will try something like that with cheaper items and see how it works. My main problem with it is that the trait lines doesn’t really fit with what I try to achieve. Either they have the wrong attributes or the wrong weapons are supported. :-D

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJARTjcOBwtPaP4wBAzjfAqojCqYKp4swA-jkxAorARFCU2rIas12ioxqLJiq94ER1A-w

Edit: The points in the precision line seem wasted. perhaps this instead

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJARTjcOBwtPaP4wBE0DNML2CjifAISKOjwA-jkxAorARFCU2rIas12ioxqLJiq94ER1A-w

(edited by ScoHook.6198)

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

you aren’t running any consumables with your builds?

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Posted by: Sagramor.7395

Sagramor.7395

Since you’re not doing dungeons you’re really not going to encounter too many situations where you’ll be hitting the bleed cap AND where your dps matters at the same time. The only place you’ll be hitting it is world bosses, and you’re going to get your loot regardless. You can play a bleed (condition) warrior in open world PvE and WvW just fine. Unless you really don’t like the playstyle there’s no reason to change. Sword/Sword + Longbow is actually very strong right now in WvW for soloing and small groups.

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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

you aren’t running any consumables with your builds?

I have played quite casual so far, for me consumables were something that happened to other people. Probably not the wisest choice. :-D

Since you’re not doing dungeons you’re really not going to encounter too many situations where you’ll be hitting the bleed cap AND where your dps matters at the same time. The only place you’ll be hitting it is world bosses, and you’re going to get your loot regardless. You can play a bleed (condition) warrior in open world PvE and WvW just fine. Unless you really don’t like the playstyle there’s no reason to change. Sword/Sword + Longbow is actually very strong right now in WvW for soloing and small groups.

It’s not like I particularly dislike my current build, I just wanted to do something new and a new warrior build is easier than leveling one of my countless neglected alts.

(edited by ScoHook.6198)

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I toyed a bit with your Meta Build. I think I will try something like that with cheaper items and see how it works. My main problem with it is that the trait lines doesn’t really fit with what I try to achieve. Either they have the wrong attributes or the wrong weapons are supported. :-D

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJARTjcOBwtPaP4wBAzjfAqojCqYKp4swA-jkxAorARFCU2rIas12ioxqLJiq94ER1A-w

Edit: The points in the precision line seem wasted. perhaps this instead

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJARTjcOBwtPaP4wBE0DNML2CjifAISKOjwA-jkxAorARFCU2rIas12ioxqLJiq94ER1A-w

I agree with Sagramor, for solo play a tanky condi build works just fine. People won’t like you in Dungeons as the expect the Warrior to do direct damage DPS. If you want to go for the Banners build I would use something like this and go 30 in tactics.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJARTjkOBwtPaP4wBEkCNMLMK+BgI9gMCj1A-jkxAorARFCU2rIas12ioxqLJiq94ER1A-w

The healing signet and regen you’ll get from banners along with your super tanky PTV will let you facetank pretty much anything. Add some mango pie and you can agro a vet and go AFK. Stronger bowstrings actually makes you bow weaker even though it increases the range, 900 to 1200 isn’t enough to make it worth while IMHO. Traiting “empower allies” instead will give you extra power.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
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Posted by: ScoHook.6198

ScoHook.6198

I have tried this built and am quite happy. Although I have changed banners to shouts with corresponding adaption to the traits. Random people running off with my banners was just too annoying.

Damage and survivability is really good.

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Posted by: Grok Krog.9581

Grok Krog.9581

Hey, I run a Greatsword/Hammer build. It’s full glass cannon, Berserker Armor/trinkets with Ruby Orbs. Sigil of Night on the Greatsword and Force on the Hammer. 30/25/0/0/15.

It’s not as High DPS as Greatsword and Axe/Mace but Hammer does have nice CC though usually not needed in PvE for top of the line groups but for more casual play it’s nice.

The utilities I run are Healing Signet, For Great Justice, Banner of Strength, Banner of Discipline, and Battle Standard (this is when I’m the only Warrior in the group)

Switch Banner of Strength (or Discipline depending on what the other Warrior brings if there’s 2) with On My Mark

For solo play you use Signet of Rage as your Elite. Change the Banners for Frenzy and Signet of Might or Fury, or whatever you feel like can still use one Banner.

With my Guild in dungeons in average around 25-30K with Hundred Blades depending on the level of the dungeon against a boss. With enough Might stacks Hammer skills 2, 4, and 5 and can do almost as much.

You bring some of the highest damage in the game, and increase the group’s damage dramatically with this build

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