Guild Wars 2

Ok clearly after trying a lot of setups, I’m doing something wrong and need your help.

My warrior copes quite well in WvW, however I just came across a dual aze weilding nightmare warrior in Eternal Battlegrounds. Oddly 4 allies were ignoring him so I decided to attack it, epic mistake.
I bull charged him, sword slashed him, switched to hammer and smashed his face in with everything I had only to knock him down to 70% health, he knocked my 26k health in half in a few second blitz attack, then withdrew.
Now I know I can change my setup to deal insane damage, that’s not an issue, my issue is how he managed to create insane damage output with insane tank, 3 of me would have barely taken this guy out. All I could get from him is he had 2 x axe and used the regen healing sig.
Now I don’t have exotic, jewellery, but surely it can’t make such a massive difference? Or do I need to cough up and get start spending? I’m at a loss as to how I’m so weak….felt embarrassed to even fight him. Hides
Any ideas? I guess I’m a bit tired of swapping around my setup all the time.

1) What level are you?
2) What gear (as in cleric, berserker, etc) are you using?
3) Did you notice whether he used Endure Pain or not?

1. 80
2. Whispering Greaves with Infliltration Rune (I know, I need to replace this)
3. Don’ think so, he never went invunerable, then again he didn’t need to.

It was just a huge tank and terrible damage, people on my team were saying you won’t kill him etc, don’t bother. He was just stood there taking the complete biscuit.

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

What gear/traits did you use?

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

The difference may largely account for my lack of using the regen signet, which I’ve now slapped on my character. You’re saying this gives you 352hp/sec regen? I don’t understand the comment about you restoring another 352hp critial target on top of that? I didn’t realise there was food to boost regen either, i will look at that. He definitely had eaten some food
Still my stats aren’t that bad compared to yours?

You beat me on power and precision though, so I’m guessing with the added power plus higher chance of critical you can eat into someone a lot more effectively, particularly useful when using a Greatsword.
I should buy full exotic trinkets but the type I buy will effect my armor sigs. I was going to buy Doylak sigs (power vitality and toughness bonuses to armour) and apply it to an armour type that gives only the same benefits, power toughness vitality. Then buy the exotic trinkets to match those 3 qualities too. Perhaps then with the regen this would be a solid char I don’t know.

from what I can see he is probably running a 20 arms/30 defense/20 discipline build with divinity runes and all berserker armor. Only thing that baffles me is why his crit dmg is so high unless he is using foods.

my build is actually fairly similar (although not quite as stat heavy) but it follows the same principle.

Um…. does anyone else think that he popped endure pain?

Boldor Aran.8543:

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

The difference may largely account for my lack of using the regen signet, which I’ve now slapped on my character. You’re saying this gives you 352hp/sec regen? I don’t understand the comment about you restoring another 352hp critial target on top of that? I didn’t realise there was food to boost regen either, i will look at that. He definitely had eaten some food
Still my stats aren’t that bad compared to yours?

You beat me on power and precision though, so I’m guessing with the added power plus higher chance of critical you can eat into someone a lot more effectively, particularly useful when using a Greatsword.
I should buy full exotic trinkets but the type I buy will effect my armor sigs. I was going to buy Doylak sigs (power vitality and toughness bonuses to armour) and apply it to an armour type that gives only the same benefits, power toughness vitality. Then buy the exotic trinkets to match those 3 qualities too. Perhaps then with the regen this would be a solid char I don’t know.

352 / target from omnomberry ghost /omnomberry pie
Steals 325 health from a level 80 opponent.
No internal cooldown.
Is not affected by Healing Power
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Omnomberry_Pie
if you hit 5 targets you can regen 1660/ critical.
with axe , that have insane attack speed omnomberry ghost /pie will provide insane hp- regeneration
Healing signet scale with your healing power, i have arround 220 + wvwvw bonuses , can go up to 230 and 360 / 3 seconds from adrenal heal.
I did not had any critical food on that screen shot with critical food and signet precision i get up to 54% critical chance and 100 critical damage, while i keep almost 3000 armor and over 21k hp.
even if that guy had more armor then me arround 3200 -3300 ( knight gears) he can do 12 k eviscerate easy on low defnces
regarding your stats: you got 16 critical rate and 8 critical damage
i got 50% crit rate with food 90% crit damage
now if we hit same target:
let’s count base damage 1000
out of 100 hits you will hit 16 criticals for 158% damage and 84 non critical
in 100 hits you output :
84 non critical x 1000 = 84000
16 criticals x 1000 × 1.54=24640
Total damage in 100 hits -108640
i hit
50 non critical -50.000
50 critical x 1000 × 2.40 = 120.000
total damage in 100 hits – 170.000 damage , with 60% more damage then you

CookMETEnder.7582:

Um…. does anyone else think that he popped endure pain?

most logical assumption.

Defektive.7283:

CookMETEnder.7582:

Um…. does anyone else think that he popped endure pain?

most logical assumption.

no
look his critical rate and critical power.
His damage is low. full hb won’t make more then 7k damage

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

I think the build he’s running is very close to this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1c.h17|0.0.0.0.0.0|1p.b1j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1p.71j.1g.71j|1g.61.2s.0.2v.0.1j.67.1p.67.2s.0|0.k00.u000.0.k00|54.7|e

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

op u seem went p/t/v gear, and u want good dmg?? when i go pure p/t/v, i hit 700+ on average people, crit for 1k which is nothing. if u want to keep p/t/v gear and some damage, get full exotic ruby trinkets, and trait for 0-20-30-0-20, earthshaker + hb should be laying down big pressure.

Boldor Aran.8543:

Ok clearly after trying a lot of setups, I’m doing something wrong and need your help.

My warrior copes quite well in WvW, however I just came across a dual aze weilding nightmare warrior in Eternal Battlegrounds. Oddly 4 allies were ignoring him so I decided to attack it, epic mistake.
I bull charged him, sword slashed him, switched to hammer and smashed his face in with everything I had only to knock him down to 70% health, he knocked my 26k health in half in a few second blitz attack, then withdrew.
Now I know I can change my setup to deal insane damage, that’s not an issue, my issue is how he managed to create insane damage output with insane tank, 3 of me would have barely taken this guy out. All I could get from him is he had 2 x axe and used the regen healing sig.
Now I don’t have exotic, jewellery, but surely it can’t make such a massive difference? Or do I need to cough up and get start spending? I’m at a loss as to how I’m so weak….felt embarrassed to even fight him. Hides
Any ideas? I guess I’m a bit tired of swapping around my setup all the time.

He is a warrior with defensive traits but with berserker items. Or offensive traits but with defensive set and berserker accessories.

Mesket.5728:

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

Can you post your build and your gear? The stats looks very good and interesting.

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

what armor is this?
please don’t say human cultural or my colrabi will cry…

Norn Cultural t3 with Vigil shoulders.

Lalangamena.3694:

Rayya.2591:

you can build your warrior balanced to absorb a lot of damage and still deal a lot DPS
on my warrior i got following stats . ( i regen 360 hp /second cause healing signet /adrenal heal) and i restroe 352 hp/crit/target food 450 from sigil (2 sec CD).
Critical chance also go over 48 % with food/ 68 % with furry.
I can pull hb over 20k damage on low defence on wvwvw.
but since you sayed he used axe +axe is very posible that you got hit by an eviscerate by 12k damage or even more since your gear is not full exotic

what armor is this?
please don’t say human cultural or my colrabi will cry…

Yes he is wearing Human T3 armor…

I think Daoshi answered for my armor, and that is Norn T3, Gloves and Boots T1 (like them better) and Vigil Shoulders as he said

Asgard, I sent you my build by PM

As other people said, the secret is Omnomberry. Veery OP food for crit warriors. He wouldn’t stand a chance in proper PvP

Mesket.5728

Can u send me the build too plz? I want to make a similar one too?

Rym.1469:

As other people said, the secret is Omnomberry. Veery OP food for crit warriors. He wouldn’t stand a chance in proper PvP

Cracks me up when people think sPvP is “proper Pvp”. It is not, it is keep other team off a point. Proper pvp would be a team deathwatch type event.

You don’t even really need to kill anyone in sPvP to “win” just have to keep them out of circle so as not to turn it.

Boldor Aran.8543:

The difference may largely account for my lack of using the regen signet, which I’ve now slapped on my character. You’re saying this gives you 352hp/sec regen? I don’t understand the comment about you restoring another 352hp critial target on top of that? I didn’t realise there was food to boost regen either, i will look at that. He definitely had eaten some food
Still my stats aren’t that bad compared to yours?

You beat me on power and precision though, so I’m guessing with the added power plus higher chance of critical you can eat into someone a lot more effectively, particularly useful when using a Greatsword.
I should buy full exotic trinkets but the type I buy will effect my armor sigs. I was going to buy Doylak sigs (power vitality and toughness bonuses to armour) and apply it to an armour type that gives only the same benefits, power toughness vitality. Then buy the exotic trinkets to match those 3 qualities too. Perhaps then with the regen this would be a solid char I don’t know.

2,8k attack.
8% critical damage.
16% critical chance.

OP, you don’t exactly do a lot of damage… And you have some food on… Nor do you have a lot of defense if you’re a defensive build… Can you post your exact items (including runes/sigils/whatever is socketed) and traits? Cause something is definitely wrong there. See my build for reference – I have wayyyyy more damage than you, while matching you in armour and only having less 7k health or so. And I’m paying a premium for some extra utility my build needs.

And to answer your question, yes, trinkets are about half of your power. So having fully exotic armour/weapons and green trinkets is roughly equivalent to exotic trinkets and green armour and weapons.

Mesket.5728:

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

What if I tell you… you could have gotten that armor rating while still having 70% crit rate and 90% crit damage? It’s possible.
So we’re down to health… is that 10k extra health really worth the price of dealing no damage?

Red Falcon.8257:

Mesket.5728:

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

What if I tell you… you could have gotten that armor rating while still having 70% crit rate and 90% crit damage? It’s possible.
So we’re down to health… is that 10k extra health really worth the price of dealing no damage?

Lol, it’s not just this build.
There are many builds with exotic that can get you those stats…
but OP, it just seems like you are under-geared honestly…
and don’t stack vitality… please…

Red Falcon.8257:

Mesket.5728:

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

What if I tell you… you could have gotten that armor rating while still having 70% crit rate and 90% crit damage? It’s possible.
So we’re down to health… is that 10k extra health really worth the price of dealing no damage?

Having those extra 10K health is what I like about my build. 10K is a lot to waste, Its almost a full HP for a full zerk thief or ele. Its like them starting at 0.

OP said he only lowered his HP some %. Well… many zerk players must have thought the same about me, unleashing everything, doing 20K damage and I’m still over 1/3 HP and ready to counter.

And its not even all around tonz of HP, 5 condition removal in 3 different casts is very frustrating for many enemies who start the fight aplying lots of conditions, shield reflecting projectiles makes enemy warriors using kill shot a gift from heaven (or Mesmer’s giving me free copys of my warrior on them lol), increased long bow range for sieges, adrenal regen, plus regen signet, plus regen food, plus the eventual regen from team mate etc… Like I said, PVT favours power so even though it yields great survivality it also increase damage and with axe+FGJ I don’t need more damage to outlast my enemies. And yes, I do damage… remember I’m melee using a dps weapon. Not everything is hur dur 100b

You are only close in armor but when it comes to survival you are not even close to my performance.

What ever works for you is good for you, this works for me.

Lol I didnt even had to click to realize it was another DPS build… Average Joe Warrior is Average.

ACE.7941:

Mesket.5728

Can u send me the build too plz? I want to make a similar one too?

Sorry, I missed it. Sent.

This is very possible…
My warrior stats are as follows:
Armor: 3346 with shield on
Attack power: 3192
Crit chance: 61% with signet of rage active and food buff
Crit damage: 40%
HP: 27,015

With what gear, traits, food…?

Ogor, without traits or soldier runes all those stats falls through conditions.

How do you deal with them?

I don’t think your stats can compare with a build dedicated to survive.

Ogor.8027:

This is very possible…
My warrior stats are as follows:
Armor: 3346 with shield on
Attack power: 3192
Crit chance: 61% with signet of rage active and food buff
Crit damage: 40%
HP: 27,015

correction my crit chance is 73% with all buff…

i usually the only last man standing in a zerg fight… i can survive pretty much all the dishes of necros, elem, rangers… even they dish all there conditions on me…

first and foremost my style of play is number “4” of gs while im attacking the zerg of enemies, then use whirlwind of gs then switch to axe+shield and use number “5” skill to retaliate all the conditions and projectiles of zerg to them for 3 sec. then ill absorb the remaining conditions or attacks which is negligible with my signet of regen active plus my rune of dolyak active…and also im using omnomberry pies for 66% chance to steal life plus i have a sigil of blood in my gs and axe… so my hp remains full most of the time… and also if ever there is a lot of condition left on me… ill just use my signet of stamina to clear all my conditions… and with signet of stamina passive, i have 3 rolls rather than 2 rolls at a time…

i think this build is made for zerg attact in wvwvw… i always end up last man standing or the survivor of a zerg attack… my regen and life steal cannot die down… unless the condition dealers cooldowns are finish… and theyll give me another round of conditions which is very minimal in chance due to the fact that zerg fights only last around 30 sec to 1 min in average time… this build brings a lot of badges in the end…

and my average dishes of dps is around 2k to 2.5k without the buff of elem combo field plus finher for high might…

Mesket.5728:

Ogor, without traits or soldier runes all those stats falls through conditions.

How do you deal with them?

I don’t think your stats can compare with a build dedicated to survive.

i used soldier runes before and it is good rune to remove conditions but the problem with soldier runes is your stuck with shout utility and stuck also with the vitality line for the shout may heal skill… so theres a lot of trait lines that have better skills than the vit line…

so i ended up using dolyak rune… better overall… it works wonders… my build is like a thief having life steal and also guardian having regen skills… so it works wonders… and i end using one utility only for condition removal – signet of stamina

The Word of the Day is: Embellishment

OP, the simple answer to this if you don’t have the funds for full exotics, is to create a thief

I love my warrior, he’s my favourite class to play, there’s no doubt he is one of the weaker classes in WvWvW in my opinion (compared to ele/thief/guardian) but my job is to prove that warriors can do well.

He has full exotics, my theif is wearing a mixture of rares and masterwork, and he can kill way more people than my warrior. I don’t play him though because I don’t feel honourable

Mesket.5728:

Many people tend to underestimate PVT builds. Warriors has many traits to increase raw stats and with nourishments and FGJ my stats are pumped really high. Having twice as HP as most glass classes is a huge advantage, high power also gives lots of damage even when I dont have that much crit (29% with Fury, shield sigil of accuracy dont display on char sheet). High armor is also another nice thing to have as warrior.

I dont believe you need that much crit to kill someone with Axe… its base damage +eviscerate are enough and with my build (look at my stats) plus shield I can survive most glass spike damage.

I have 15 in Strengh, for Endurance I just use my Burst skill and I can dodge again. Also, Auto-Shake it off, Shake it off, FGJ with 6/6 soldier runes means 5 conditions removed from me and my mates.

I’m very interested in ur build and ur gear setup. Would you be willing to send it to me as well?

Gear doesn’t matter? Gear makes a huge difference. I remember me as one of the first lvl 80 Warriors in WvW with exotic gear and doing 5 vs 1. The good ol’ days