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Need help - leveling build
I’d suggest getting Deep Strike from arms trait and grab Signet of Might and Fury, along with For Great Justice. You should try using greatsword; the 3rd skill (ww atk) is one of warrior’s best skill because it offers good damage, mobility, and evasion. My philosophy as a warrior is the best offence is the best defence. So if you kill them fast enough, they shouldn’t have time to kill you. I also strongly suggest that you turn off auto-targeting. You need to get used to manually swinging and positioning so that you always hit 3 enemies (max AoE); it will help you in the long-run, trust me.
I did try using a GS last night, and while I did think the 3rd ability was pretty cool, I did want to DW with the Warrior as I couldn’t with the Guardian.
I am a sword guy so not using dual swords is rather disheartening, I would like to at least stick with DW on the Warrior.
Hey Cook so normally i would say get all your signets and go with the greatsword its dmg is amazing for lvling. Sense you want to stray away from that I would switch your weapons up a little bit. The axe OH is not bad for aoes but single target its horrible I would put the axe in main hand cause the auto attack axe does its actually the same dmg as the number 5 in off hand. BTW axe scales better then any other weapon with power. Then for off hand to increase your survivability I would run Mace for the control it brings or Shield for the added block and stun. Sword is a great weapon the only problem with it is you need condition dmg to scale it to where its anything close to a axe. at low lvls most gear you find will have power and another stat so just makes sense to use the scaling of a axe with it. as far as your traits go there are 3 that stand out in my mind for the first tier that are nice beserkers power in strength tree, turtles defense in defense tree, hightened focus in discipline. they all work good jsut depending on what you feel you like. As for skills I would recomend Healing signet its heal is low but its heal over time is amazing. I also recomend using signet of fury when you can cause +90persision at low lvls is amazing. at higher lvls obviously its not so much but at first it will boost your crit big time. i have lvled a guardian ranger and warrior to 80 and my warrior is by far my fav class so much i just use the other 2 to farm nodes. hope this helps.
sorry ment to put this in there when using axe main hand if you get the adrinaline traits that make you do more dmg or higher crit with more adrinaline only use your f1 burst skill when finishing mobs off cause if used threw fight its a dps loss.
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Then you should give axe main hand a try. Spam burst with the Furious arms grandmaster trait; you crit and gain adrenaline very easily. I find sword main-hand to be rather weak damage-wise. It has bleeding so if you use a condition damage set, that’s the way to go. The good thing about sword is that leap. It offers very high mobility if you learn to use it (remember to turn off auto-targeting).
You know, I haven’t ever tried a Mace so I can’t say if I like or dislike its abilities. I will definitely pick one up tonight and try it out.
As far as Axe in the OH, I like it because without it I don’t have any AOE abilities just single target (I understand that my single target does hit multiple targets, but I don’t have any straight AOE abilities without it). Maybe I’m off base here and my opinion will change when I try a mace. It’s hard because like I mentioned above, I really am a sword guy at heart.
And yes, I LOVE the leap on Sword MH which is one of the big reasons why I do want to keep it.
well the axe main hand’s auto attack is a aoe. as well as its number 2 and stacks vulnerability.
but if you want to stick with sword main hand then i sugest going arms getting rendering strikes. then going with either shield or mace off hand but your going to need gear with condition dmg.
Getting gear with condition damage isn’t an issue.
cool deal give it a shot the reason i say go arms trait line is cause the first 5 points give a chance to do bleeds on crits along with swords bleeds will give ya that many more stacks of bleed. then the 10 will give vulnerability as well openeing them up even more. its viable no doubt warriors are solid all around. you could also try a warhorn it gives weakness to targets kinda the poor mans protection boon if dmg is still a factor also who dosnt love swiftness just some ideas.
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Thank you for the suggestions, I have a few things to try out tonight!
Yea no problem good luck!
but if you want to stick with sword main hand then i sugest going arms getting rendering strikes. then going with either shield or mace off hand but your going to need gear with condition dmg.
don’t you mean go with deep cuts for that +50% bleed duration? Anyways Deep Cuts is a MUST for cond damage builds.
Axe MH and mace OH is pretty darn fun.
A few quick tips:
Get the Healing Signet (the three point heal ability) as soon as possible; the passive regen it gives will by itself outheal the damage most mobs will do to you – you can literally go AFK with a mob beating on you with no fear of dying at early levels. I found playing a Warrior to be difficult early on without it, but very, very easy with it.
Put the first ten trait points into Arms, and at level 20 put on the Deep Strike trait. Fill the rest of your slots with signets. This is the much maligned “signet build”, but it’s used and abused for a reason: for leveling purposes, it’s just too good to use anything else. Enjoy >100% crit rate from level 20 on – it’s just plain the best thing to do until level 60, if you want to do damage. When I’m feeling lazy even at level 80, I’ll plug all signets (except for Shake It Off) on my bar and just go to town – even at 80, with 25 points in Arms it provides ~10% crit.
So, now you have (for leveling) overpowered survivability and overpowered damage. Enjoy.
At level 40, when you can go higher than 10 points into trait trees, swap 15 points into Defense and pick up Adrenal Health. This will boost your regen to levels that will sustain you until (and if you’re like me) through level 80.
Keep 10 points in Arms for the signet crit boost (luckily, this tree also greatly boosts 1h sword damage and utility), and for the remainder of your journey, fill points wherever you feel most comfortable.
Honestly, the rest is just gravy. Once you get damage and survivability covered (which the steps I’ve outlined will more than do for you), you can enjoy the ride, and come up with weapon choices and a playstyle that suits you.
Enjoy the ride, I’ve leveled 2 Warriors (a Norn and an Asura), and greatly enjoyed both of them.
swords are for conditions.. and i think condition build for a warrior won’t kill as fast as crit build, if you want DW try axes..
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So last night I tried a slew of different combinations and I was actually surprised how much I enjoyed the Sword/Shield combo (as I wasn’t all that impressed with that combo on the Guardian). I dig the shield bash – that one ability made me enjoy the combo. But after all was said and done I ended up with a Sword/Sword combination.
I hit 21 last night, went to the trading post and did some gear upgrades focusing on condition damage – same goes for sigils. I redid my traits for Arms and picked up Deep Cuts and did as recommended and for all my slot skills (including my heal), I am using signets. Was very pleased with the damage and how things were dying (and how few times I was dying).
I did have a quick question – does your offhand proc as often as the main hand? For my weapons I put steal health on each, I figured the regen of the healing signet plus the steal health would make my survivability a non-issue.
I did have a quick question – does your offhand proc as often as the main hand? For my weapons I put steal health on each, I figured the regen of the healing signet plus the steal health would make my survivability a non-issue.
The proc rate is multiplicative and can proc on hit from either weapon.
With two sigils each giving 10%, you get an overall proc rate of 19%.
Don’t be afraid to stick with 1handed swords. Of course crit builds will kill mobs faster than condition builds; this isn’t a Warrior thing, it’s simple math: frontloaded damage will always drop enemies faster than damage applied and spread out over time.
That being said, 1handed sword condition builds on Warriors are very very viable – there’s a guy called Yojack on these forums with a whole build based on it. The synergy you can set up with traits based on crits and bleeds in the Arms tree is just plain awesome. The mobs may take an extra second or two to fall down once you hit them, but they end up just as dead – and this is coming from a crit/crit% greatsword Warrior.
Speaking of synergy and survivability, you might want to carry a rifle as your secondary weapon. Some mobs it just doesn’t pay to stay close to (Destroyers, I’m looking at you), and everything you’re boosting on your 1handed swords will be boosted on your rifle – the rifle is a bleed weapon with the ability to frontload some awesome damage as well.
I did have a quick question – does your offhand proc as often as the main hand? For my weapons I put steal health on each, I figured the regen of the healing signet plus the steal health would make my survivability a non-issue.
The proc rate is multiplicative and can proc on hit from either weapon.
With two sigils each giving 10%, you get an overall proc rate of 19%.
^Correct and if you were to use another sigil say like one that has a 45second cooldown then your sigil of blood would not be 2second cooldown if the other sigil proced, they share the same cooldowns. That being said its good to use the same sigil or if you wanted to put another on just make sure it dosnt have a cooldown. like +10power each kill stacking 25times or what ever.
sigil of corruption goes nicely on a sword.
while levelling I suggest gems as upgrades instead of runes. Good runes are all interdependent but you will change armor pretty fast. Gems are independent and add nice little buffs, plus you’ll find plenty of them.
As for traits, until I made 80 I had only T1 open cause I couldn’t afford the book, but it never really impacted me the way getting new armor and weapons would. after 80 and maxing my armorsmithing the money situation improved. I wouldn’t worry a lot about traits really, not at that stage. Chasing the map/daily chests, farming mats and crafting will raise you up just about as fast.
Spend skill points to get signets first.
Get to level 10 and start dumping points into Arms.
At level 20 you’ll have 10 points in arms. Get the trait that adds +40 precision for each Signet you have on your bar. Equip signets.
LOL at your 100% crit rate and go destroy stuff until benefit from the +40 precision per signet starts falling off.
If you level at a decent clip then runes and sigils matter not because you’ll outlevel the gear they are in before you get a ton of use out of them to make them worth researching. Just use whatever, with 100% crit from signet trait you’ll slaughter everything.