Need help with a Sword/x build!!

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Posted by: marksman.6453

marksman.6453

Hi, first time posting. Ive been playing the warrior prof for almost 5 montsh now. Played it before the june patch when everything was so awesome and we had our adrenaline based dmg and crit chance in the adept line.
Since then I’e tried other professions, guard, thief, mesmer, ele. But i always end up coming back to my warrior.
I love playing him but recently I haven’t been able to play him the way I like. I want to build a sword warrior, but not a conditions build.

Would love any help or suggestions

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Posted by: marksman.6453

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Posted by: Olba.5376

Olba.5376

Well…

  • Restorative Strength is useless unless you’re using Healing Surge or Mending. Not worth the points, in my opinion
  • Sure-Footed pales in comparison to Dogged March for the adept slot, in my opinion.
  • Picking Spiked Armor and Merciless Hammer over Cleansing Ire and Merciless Hammer is going to have a very big effect on your ability to take condition damage
  • Leg Specialist only procs on 1 target at most, so it’s not that useful
  • I think you’re overloading on Toughness in your gear. Also, you’re not going to be benefitting from all that crit damage with your fairly low crit chance.
  • Rune of Lyssa isn’t a good condi cleanse, as our elite has at best a 48s cooldown. And in fact, the boons can be turned against us by a necromancer. I would rather take Rune of Hoelbrak or Rune of Melandru.

Personally, I am running Sword/Shield with a Longbow and I’m a powerbuild. This is what I run with.

For a quick comparison:

  • Your build has 1,614 effective Power and 31,321 effective HP
  • My build has 1,817 effective Power and 27,206 effective HP.
  • Optimizing your build to this results in 1,666 effective Power and 32,286 effective HP

For your traits, the direction that you should take depends on how much of a sidearm the hammer is. If you use it a lot, you might want to go 30 in Discipline for Burst Mastery. That leaves you with 10 or 20 points (as you should have 20 in Defense for Cleansing Ire) to put around and experiment.

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Posted by: Traitine.8713

Traitine.8713

I really enjoy a sword/shield+great sword build on my warrior. It’s got a lot of survivability, some heals and utility for the group, and a bunch of mobility for traversing the map (and getting away if you need to).

http://www.constantwarfare.com/2012/11/squadcommander.html

If you don’t like the utility/support route, sword/Warhorn + rifle is fun too. You’ve still got awesome mobility, some but not as much support for allies, and a fair amount of DPS enemies can’t ignore. There are probably some variants for this, but a fun one I used is:

http://www.constantwarfare.com/2013/01/speedbleed.html

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

this is for wvw not sure if that’s what u want but heres what im running

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNBiYD7k0hogLeQ5BmIDIIFaIXoeYH1RckUIGsBA-jkCB0yAEGQUIwJPFRjtMqIasabYKXCyqYJ1aeIaG0pWGAmxA-w

i don’t have a ascended backpiece yet so im just shy of my target for 3k armor and 100% crit dmg, im sitting at 99% and 2986, but i reach 3k armor already with minor bloodlust which my server always seems to have at least. i have 51% crit chance, which i like because in my head im thinking its either going to crit or not, but more on the going to crit side cause of that 1 more percent. the sword/wh set is whats going to keep ur hp filled, with the leeching sigil everytime i switch to my sword/wh i LEECH 1k health, so im dmging them and healing myself. my sword still crits for around 1k-1.5k and my final thrust on under 50% hp can go from 7k to 12k depending on how squisy they are.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

Carpboy.7145

I think Sw/Sh synergies very well with GS since shield bash and sword f1 are the perfect set ups for 100blades.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIIQNAseRjkOFvBPqQMxBEkCNsKMP6BgoIUKmD7A-jkCBYfQYLChkFRkKAI5RaNBSIsZoIas6aYqYER1WzER1CBYeCA-w

Final thrust hits EXTREMELY hard below 50%. Also, its kind of a strange balance between using your adrenaline or not. You’ve got a flat +15% dmg increase and health regen when its full, but you’ve also got cleansing ire and 20 in discipline.


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Posted by: Squirtle.7206

Squirtle.7206

I know this isnt a main line build and may take quite a bit of a learning curv to get down but this is what I use regardless of Pve Pvp Wvw etc etc

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNAseSjkOFvxOyQMRCC8hrYU0DxfUkEloPQHA-jUCBEFA0yQ0Igl1FRjVtAT/KpKYCymzER1eDYCBsYBA-w

Honestly I dont think you need anything above 45% crit chance and 50ish% crit dmg for this build considering its mostly a condi build, Takes a little getting used to and isnt always the BEST for the situation but its worked for me so far. The interupt timing is KEY as wars with perplexity can stack up to 9 stacks of confusion with a SINGLE interupt (yes I agree its broken [ also those 9 stacks of confusion not to mention bleeding can do upwards of 3k dmg per skill proc if they dont use the right foods] but until they fix it I will use it xD)

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Posted by: marksman.6453

marksman.6453

Well…

  • Restorative Strength is useless unless you’re using Healing Surge or Mending. Not worth the points, in my opinion
  • Sure-Footed pales in comparison to Dogged March for the adept slot, in my opinion.
  • Picking Spiked Armor and Merciless Hammer over Cleansing Ire and Merciless Hammer is going to have a very big effect on your ability to take condition damage
  • Leg Specialist only procs on 1 target at most, so it’s not that useful
  • I think you’re overloading on Toughness in your gear. Also, you’re not going to be benefitting from all that crit damage with your fairly low crit chance.
  • Rune of Lyssa isn’t a good condi cleanse, as our elite has at best a 48s cooldown. And in fact, the boons can be turned against us by a necromancer. I would rather take Rune of Hoelbrak or Rune of Melandru.

Personally, I am running Sword/Shield with a Longbow and I’m a powerbuild. This is what I run with.

For a quick comparison:

  • Your build has 1,614 effective Power and 31,321 effective HP
  • My build has 1,817 effective Power and 27,206 effective HP.
  • Optimizing your build to this results in 1,666 effective Power and 32,286 effective HP

For your traits, the direction that you should take depends on how much of a sidearm the hammer is. If you use it a lot, you might want to go 30 in Discipline for Burst Mastery. That leaves you with 10 or 20 points (as you should have 20 in Defense for Cleansing Ire) to put around and experiment.

I pick up restorative since I’m not using dogged, it helps with the chill particularly when I’m trying to run away. and with reduced signet recharge, I can get it back easy in 16 seconds. And i go with stance duration because I get off with 4 stances (sorry that was supposed to be defy pain rather than sa) and stances give me vigor. I found that with a lot of condition heavy, that extra 2-3 seconds on zerker stance helps quite a bit, plus extra dodges is great

I would mix in more berserker gear, but with 33% crit chance (hammy was supposed to be zerker my bad :P) and the fury being about 33 sec up time (boon duration from vitality tree) I would be sitting around 53% crit chance. Plus with the upcoming patch, the 25 minor line trait will give 10% of toughness to power instead of 5.
Atm with this setup I get 108 extra power from the toughness. After the patch that’ll jump to 216.7 power.

And the reason I went with lyssa runes is for the precision that the build lacks, plus the complete condi removal, compared to melandru or hoelbrak which give -20% condi. Albiet with food that’s -60% at best which is great and all, but most of the condi classes out there carry around +40% condi food and +condi duration gear. so it cancels out.

I could move over da for cleansing ire, would certainly help with more adrenaline, plus the extra condi cleanse. And maybe proc 10 into vitality tree for empowered or more into discipline for burst mastery.

The reason I just go so tanky is because I like to roam a lot, capping camps sentry’s etc. so the extra tough helps when I get jumped by two or three, especially if they’re zerker ranger or warrior.
But i agree I lack somewhat with power

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Posted by: marksman.6453

marksman.6453

I’ve swapped out the hammer for gs lately, I’ll chuck the hammer on when I’m playing more defense like say trying to hold a tower or camp.
And sorry trait, but I’m more of a selfish warr in wvw :P. I run shout heals in fracts and such, but in wvw i like to take down people off the bat

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Posted by: Traitine.8713

Traitine.8713

Whatever you like man. It’s your time to spend!

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Posted by: Ludus Rex.1562

Ludus Rex.1562

I was going to post a super amazing sustain build that’s a monster for 1v1s, but then I saw that you didn’t want a Condition build…

Frag it, I’m posting it anyway. Change your mind. Conditions are your friend, and this build has it all:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRBMZxG2IpTKcMkxDTcAB9QDrCB88IJoipQVwOA-TwAAzCpIMSZkzIjRSjsGNqYVxmgJBA

Perma Swiftness, Perma Cripple, 84% crit, nice health regen, tons of condition purging, a metric ton of stability, massive reduction to snares, and toughness for days. It’s only going to get better with the buff to Spiked Armor. Give conditions a try, imo.

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

Phaeton.9582

I was going to post a super amazing sustain build that’s a monster for 1v1s, but then I saw that you didn’t want a Condition build…

Frag it, I’m posting it anyway. Change your mind. Conditions are your friend, and this build has it all:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRBMZxG2IpTKcMkxDTcAB9QDrCB88IJoipQVwOA-TwAAzCpIMSZkzIjRSjsGNqYVxmgJBA

Perma Swiftness, Perma Cripple, 84% crit, nice health regen, tons of condition purging, a metric ton of stability, massive reduction to snares, and toughness for days. It’s only going to get better with the buff to Spiked Armor. Give conditions a try, imo.

The fact that you would take rending strikes over fast hands amazes me!


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