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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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What do you guys think about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/55phil/lets_talk_about_the_leaked_new_elite/

I dont think dagger/dagger would really fit a warrior.. let alone a dagger/shield style..
Warriors already have swords and greatsword, why on earth would they cripple themselves to use a smaller version? but thats my opinion ofc.

And spellbreaker? is that boon ripping/CC stuff or something? not sure what this could be..

I really think they should add new weapons because soon warriors will use pistols and after that its going downhills into more magic style staff/focus/scepter.. doesnt look good. so in the end i think dagger/dagger would be atleast the best choice from the weapons there are left… if they do add new stuff i would really like a greataxe and spears.

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

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I think a staff would’ve been more interesting and appropriate, but “spellbreaker” sounds interesting to me depending on what they do with it.

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Posted by: Henry.5713

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“Spellbreaker”… sounds like an interesting idea. I am still hoping for a new two-handed weapon and greataxe most of all but I will take a new set of melee weapons any day.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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I think a staff would’ve been more interesting and appropriate, but “spellbreaker” sounds interesting to me depending on what they do with it.

If they add more spear-staff skins than yes Staff could be nice..
But then you have Nevermore skins.. does that look nice on warrior? :-P

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Posted by: Sarnax.8357

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Not a fan of wearing heavy armor and carrying a pig stick. What they should do is create new weapon types like GREATAXE! I had to capitalize the letters because it just felt like the right thing to do.

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Posted by: Kalendraf.9521

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I’ve been hoping that Warriors would get dagger for a while. It’s a nice close range weapon, with the possibility of also being a short to mid-range thrown weapon. As the so-called master of weapons, a warrior should be able be able to use a dagger as well or better than any other class.

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

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If true, who knows if Dagger may give true Warrior mobility which would be a much different playstyle so I like.

Also there is nothing stated but it could give Warrior a medium range option if it works more similar to Elementalist Dagger Mainhand which would be great (alleviating the Main Hand Pistol Warrior could really use).

What also makes it interesting is if the attack speeds are much quicker for Dagger since it gives Warrior a less telegraphed option for PvP/WvW.

Wait and see … we are at probably at least eight months before preview so … lots can change.

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Posted by: Dand.8231

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Oh hey!! Dagger/Dagger! Check my post from literally a year ago, pre-HOT!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/My-version-of-the-Berserker-Dragon-Warrior

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Posted by: SpiritSpeakerOfHoelbrak.3980

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What do you guys think about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/55phil/lets_talk_about_the_leaked_new_elite/

I dont think dagger/dagger would really fit a warrior.. let alone a dagger/shield style..
Warriors already have swords and greatsword, why on earth would they cripple themselves to use a smaller version? but thats my opinion ofc.

And spellbreaker? is that boon ripping/CC stuff or something? not sure what this could be..

I really think they should add new weapons because soon warriors will use pistols and after that its going downhills into more magic style staff/focus/scepter.. doesnt look good. so in the end i think dagger/dagger would be atleast the best choice from the weapons there are left… if they do add new stuff i would really like a greataxe and spears.

Hey mate Thanks for sharing.

I’d honestly like to see a re-work of Hammer and for our Elite to center around AOE attacks with Hammer and the ability to strip stability. Thinking Thor right now.

SO MUCH potential with this existing 2H weapon
Edit – I’m thinking of the ‘gravity’ of hammer – AOE pulls etc

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Posted by: Cygnus.6903

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What also makes it interesting is if the attack speeds are much quicker for Dagger since it gives Warrior a less telegraphed option for PvP/WvW.

Wait and see … we are at probably at least eight months before preview so … lots can change.

Exactly this.

I just hope warrior becomes more then a burst spamming healing machine again. The playstyle is so boring right now.

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Posted by: eliroth.3869

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I’m still praying for off-hand scepter, main hand torch, main hand focus and more rifle specs. Rifle mainly because predator is my absolute favorite legendary but it gets little use.

You think there’s any possibility that anet will add new weapon skills outside elite specializations? i.e. mesmer pistol on-hand, revenant axe on hand, ranger dagger on hand, scepter off hand etc.? These could also add to core specs, current and future elite specs.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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I’m still praying for off-hand scepter, main hand torch, main hand focus and more rifle specs. Rifle mainly because predator is my absolute favorite legendary but it gets little use.

You think there’s any possibility that anet will add new weapon skills outside elite specializations? i.e. mesmer pistol on-hand, revenant axe on hand, ranger dagger on hand, scepter off hand etc.? These could also add to core specs, current and future elite specs.

No i dont think they would add new weapon skills outside expansions/elite.
I would love to see improvements on old weapons :-(

Dagger/dagger might give us some nice fast playstyle.. would be nice.
But they could even update sword to give faster playstyle or make hammer better control weapon or whatever. its sad to see great weapons getting old

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

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i’m not a fan of dagger/dagger either, we know the deal now, Anet release a new spec, make it awesome.

imho if they do go down the d/d line they will end up replacing a/a which is supposed to be our fast attacking dual-wield crit happy weapon set, which in essence is what d/d will be.

instead of d/d they should release the inevitable “titan’s grip” spec (dual wielding 2 handers.
its always imminent for every warrior class in every mmo,
big really really slow whirling attacks with GS or really slow arcing pounding attacks with hammer.

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Posted by: Harnel.6810

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People keep acting like Dual Daggers would be dumb, but I don’t really follow that logic., and it fits in with the theme of a “spellbreaker”

Think about this; what were daggers primarily used for on medieval battlefields? they weren’t used by so called “rogues”, since those tried to stay the hell away from a battlefield in the first place, instead preferring thievery or assassination if killing was their jam. In the hands of an actual soldier, a dagger is used for disruption, debilitating enemies by wounding them in the places where their armor had gaps, and parrying. They were primarily used when enemies negated their conventional weapons, such as lances or spears (which makes sense for a mage tossing fireballs at you from fifty feet away when you’re normally a swordsman)

Consider that in this context for a moment. Disrupting people definitely works for a “spellbreaker” sort of thing as it would mean interrupting the casting of spells and other abilities. Debilitating wounds, and ignoring armor. I’m willing to bet the idea behind this is less quick attacks and more disrupting the target, bleeding them out, and then keeping them from doing anything about it with medium or slow, high impact CC effects that require you to get up-close and personal, which is what the warrior does best. Hell, it’ll likely even have a distance closer or two.

So, I like it. It looks really interesting to me.

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Posted by: OutOfMana.7168

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i’m not a fan of dagger/dagger either, we know the deal now, Anet release a new spec, make it awesome.

imho if they do go down the d/d line they will end up replacing a/a which is supposed to be our fast attacking dual-wield crit happy weapon set, which in essence is what d/d will be.

instead of d/d they should release the inevitable “titan’s grip” spec (dual wielding 2 handers.
its always imminent for every warrior class in every mmo,
big really really slow whirling attacks with GS or really slow arcing pounding attacks with hammer.

I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

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i’m not a fan of dagger/dagger either, we know the deal now, Anet release a new spec, make it awesome.

imho if they do go down the d/d line they will end up replacing a/a which is supposed to be our fast attacking dual-wield crit happy weapon set, which in essence is what d/d will be.

instead of d/d they should release the inevitable “titan’s grip” spec (dual wielding 2 handers.
its always imminent for every warrior class in every mmo,
big really really slow whirling attacks with GS or really slow arcing pounding attacks with hammer.

I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

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Posted by: Coldtart.4785

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I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

Why not just go the whole hog and strap 2 more to your feet, then hold a 5th in your teeth for 500 blades?

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

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I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

Why not just go the whole hog and strap 2 more to your feet, then hold a 5th in your teeth for 500 blades?

wow. not even rolf is that powerful.

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Posted by: Dand.8231

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I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

Why not just go the whole hog and strap 2 more to your feet, then hold a 5th in your teeth for 500 blades?

Totally super real leaked Spellbreaker

And 800 Blades gameplay footage

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Posted by: Jacion.6302

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I can see it now. The inevitable two hundred blades.

Why not just go the whole hog and strap 2 more to your feet, then hold a 5th in your teeth for 500 blades?

Totally super real leaked Spellbreaker

And 800 Blades gameplay footage

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Posted by: Vukorep.3081

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From a strong warrior, to a raging zerker that sets everything on fire….to a dagger swinging..antimagic….something?

And how is the new espec suposed to get 2 weapon (slots)?

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Posted by: Harnel.6810

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From a strong warrior, to a raging zerker that sets everything on fire….to a dagger swinging..antimagic….something?

And how is the new espec suposed to get 2 weapon (slots)?

It’s not from zerker to antimagic, it’s from warrior to antimagic. The distinction is important, because you’re one, not the other; something a lot of players seem to forget. “Elite” things in general are designed to be mutually exclusive, and elite specs are no different.

I don’t see why getting dual daggers is an issue. Lots of classes can dual wield a particular weapon type. The core of it is that Warrior would simply be getting daggers made available; that they can use them in both hands is secondary.

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Posted by: jayson.6512

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Fix the dual axe first before making warrior wield dual dagger.

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Posted by: Vukorep.3081

Vukorep.3081

From a strong warrior, to a raging zerker that sets everything on fire….to a dagger swinging..antimagic….something?

And how is the new espec suposed to get 2 weapon (slots)?

It’s not from zerker to antimagic, it’s from warrior to antimagic. The distinction is important, because you’re one, not the other; something a lot of players seem to forget. “Elite” things in general are designed to be mutually exclusive, and elite specs are no different.

I don’t see why getting dual daggers is an issue. Lots of classes can dual wield a particular weapon type. The core of it is that Warrior would simply be getting daggers made available; that they can use them in both hands is secondary.

No, i mean other especs so far (in hot and the rumours of the next expansion) always get one weapon. Why would the new war get both mainhand and offhand… then again in hot none were mainhand.

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Posted by: Harnel.6810

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I suspect it’s just because they have no reason not to. Doesn’t really need much more. Plus, warriors would feel shafted if they didn’t get a full weapon set.

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Posted by: Coldtart.4785

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No, i mean other especs so far (in hot and the rumours of the next expansion) always get one weapon. Why would the new war get both mainhand and offhand… then again in hot none were mainhand.

It wouldn’t be all that different from adding a two hander.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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I’m inclined to doubt dual dagger for two reasons:

First, it’s the aesthetics. Combining a mainhand dagger with a heavy offhand such as sword, axe, or mace would be weird.

Second, offering a mainhand and an offhand is actually different to adding a two hander. A two hander can only be used with itself, so it only creates one new weaponset. A mainhand or offhand adds less skills in itself, but can be combined with others, creating multiple new possible weaponsets, each of which has the potential to synergise in unexpected ways and become a balance issue. Adding both a mainhand and an offhand, to a profession that already has a lot of mainhand and offhand options, would create a lot of new combinations.

Offhand dagger makes sense, for the reasons Harnel mentioned. Offhand weapons in real life were usually used defensively rather than offensively (we see this with offhand swords, in fact). Historically speaking, though, this tended to be done by lighter-armoured soldiers that either didn’t have shields or wanted a lighter substitute to a shield: it was rare for someone in full armour to do it (once you’ve got heavy armour, you might as well use a shield unless you’re wearing armour heavy enough that the shield becomes redundant, in which case you might as well use a two-handed weapon if you’re on foot). Rare does not mean that it would be unrealistic, though. Given that ArenaNet isn’t doing blocking with offhand daggers on lighter professions such as thief and ranger where you might expect it, though, I don’t expect it here.

What I’d see as being more likely is a grappling weapon. Historically, as mentioned before, they were used as a secondary weapon: something to use if you lost your main weapon or your opponent got so close you couldn’t use your main weapon. A ‘secondary’ role, however, seems more appropriate for an offhand than a mainhand – however, this could incorporate moves that represent the warrior going in to a grapple, which is where poniards that could find the weak spots in armour came into their own (something that men-at-arms were trained to be able to do). For instance, you could have a move that involves starting a grapple (which immobilises the warrior and their target), which possibly chains into a skill that stabs the opponent from within the grapple.

A throwing weapon I could also see – a ‘spellbreaker’ concept, for instance, might involve a thrown dagger as an interrupt and a grappling move.

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Posted by: daw.4923

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im kinda hope for d/d war,bcs lets be honest here,they will not fix anything on war/zerker as far as mobility/imobility goes. so our only chance is fresh start with completly new spec and d/d shoud give them enough space for some usable blinks/pulls….

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Posted by: Adrift.8596

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This is like the third forth post I read about warrior leaked info and again some people make this mistake: " omg how will it look with my axe/mace/shield offhand". In case you don’t realise D/D as an elite spec actually means ONLY D/D. That is not different from a 2 handed weapon just you use 2 daggers instead and can’t even equip D/S or D/A. It will be advertised as: “we are always looking for new ways to implement weapons in a non-conventional way”. To be honest I like it, maybe I can force myself to play those “afkbrain” heavy classes more if they give some depth to mechanics.

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Posted by: Coldtart.4785

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Cheers now you know the truth

The truth is is the leak was real the thread would’ve been nuked.

I made a thread about someone having linked the tempest trait singularity in chat before tempest was announced and it was nuked within the day.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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This is like the third forth post I read about warrior leaked info and again some people make this mistake: " omg how will it look with my axe/mace/shield offhand". In case you don’t realise D/D as an elite spec actually means ONLY D/D. That is not different from a 2 handed weapon just you use 2 daggers instead and can’t even equip D/S or D/A. It will be advertised as: “we are always looking for new ways to implement weapons in a non-conventional way”. To be honest I like it, maybe I can force myself to play those “afkbrain” heavy classes more if they give some depth to mechanics.

Cheers now you know the truth

There’s nothing in the leaked material I’ve seen to suggest this.

It would be one way to solve both the aesthetic issue and the ‘gets two weapons’ issue (since it would effectively be just like giving a twohanded weapon… except that two daggers are probably more expensive to acquire than a twohanded weapon), but unless you have further insider information, the logical assumption would be that the weapons can be combined with other MH and OH weapons as per usual.

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Posted by: DKShang.8792

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@Adrift I simply can’t see Anet designing an Elite that forces the player to only use a dagger, or any other weapon by extension, in both hands. None of the current Elites do that. For example, our Elite gives us the torch but we are not forced into using only the torch. I usually equip mace off hand.

@draxynnic While I agree with 99% of your above post, I even gave it a like, the one point I could not agree with was the ascetics argument. What I mean is, I agree it would look out of place running around with a main hand dagger and off hand axe/mace/charzooka; I am not convinced that would deter the devs from implementing it anyway (one tear).

Overall though I think if we are getting a dagger it will be off-hand. However, in all honesty I am not convinced that leak is accurate.

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Posted by: nanomidgy.9180

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Dagger/ dagger is quite interesting allowing more hidden ranged attack " dagger throw" for example if that’s the case, Warriors lack of viable range weapons since bow is rarely used unless condition raid build, rifle is just awful in dun/fractals.

What I really keen on warrior new spec is perhaps a 2h axe or 2h scythe with possible animations like this:
https://youtu.be/Jj5bICL9R7I

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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@DKShang Thanks!

I think there is some circumstantial evidence that ArenaNet has the aesthetics in mind.

Largely, this is on inference that they’ve avoided combining a large offhand with a dagger mainhand thus far. All of the professions with mainhand daggers – which thus far include thief, elementalist, and necromancer – also have light offhands (focus, pistol, warhorn, dagger again), even though in the case of thief in particular there’s a lot of demand for a sword offhand.

Mesmer, conversely, being a scholar profession could be expected to follow the precedent set by the elementalist and necromancer and use daggers as spellcasting focii… but it doesn’t. Instead, mesmer sticks to larger mainhands like sword and sceptre, and is also the only scholar profession that uses heavy offhands (sword, shield, arguably torch).

(A similar observation could be made that guardian and now revenant, being more magical professions, could have used mainhand daggers for a magical ranged attack as well – however, while with guardians and revs both being heavy fighter-types it’s not surprising that they don’t use daggers, while for mesmer there’s enough of a reasonable expectation that they would have daggers like the other scholar professions that it might be telling that they don’t.)

This does look like it could have been a deliberate effort by ArenaNet to avoid combinations that could end up looking silly, like an offhand that’s bigger than the mainhand (it can work if the offhand is something that wouldn’t be a primary weapon, such as a shield or torch, but there’s no practical reason anybody would wield a dagger in their main hand and a sword in their off hand by choice, for example).

Of course, it could just be coincidence. Or it could be something that the design team of 2012 and before did deliberately, but the design team of 2016 might forget. Or it could be that as the possible range of new weapons diminishes, there will be increasing pressure to break the rule in order to have something – and given that the warrior started with almost all weapons that aren’t directly linked to spellcasting to begin with, it’s probably going to be warrior that feels the squeeze first.

We’ll probably never know for sure, though, unless ArenaNet explicitly specifies a ‘no dagger MH with heavy OH’ policy (which, to my knowledge, they haven’t) or they go ahead and do it.

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

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So the main argument that Dagger/Spellbreaker won’t be the next Warrior Elite is because of aesthetics? ROFL

Seriously, do you all even look at the art of the characters and all the clipping issues with weapons and armor? Do you see how many times Charr tails and Asura ears just disappear?

Secondly, I know many people admire the spin of Daggerstorm or Whirling Axe. It’s not about just the weapon in hand but the animations and vibe.

D/D only (no option for other weapons in slots) would be a mistake (and require far more tech work) so that isn’t going to happen. Dagger/Shield or Dagger/Axe will be an option and there is plenty of good looks that go with it. Now take the other side, like Sword/Dagger and its aesthetics …

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Posted by: DKShang.8792

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So the main argument that Dagger/Spellbreaker won’t be the next Warrior Elite is because of aesthetics? ROFL

Can’t tell if you’re joking or not. Assuming you are serious I would recommend reading back over the thread. So far the topic has covered aesthetics, functionality, intent, and available options given the current state of the game and warrior more in specific. As a matter-of-fact I think the topic of aesthetics really just came up in the last few posts. At any rate, back to the topic.

A very good argument/point, draxynnic. I have to concede that to you. In the end I still don’t see it being dagger/dagger for the above mentioned reasons which specifically are; Anet did not give any other Elite dual weapons. As already pointed out, two weapons is not the same as a dual handed weapon. Third, as you mentioned, it would not follow the thematic line Anet has adhered.

Personally, I’m still wishing for off-hand pistol which is what I’ve been wanting since back when Elites where first announced. If that fails I still really don’t want an off-hand dagger but since they already threw a torch at me I will take what I’m given and sulk about it later. Now, I know it was suggested as a joke but I would really would not mind getting off-hand hammer and give us a truly amazing CC on #4 and a breathtaking dps on #5. Both with long cooldowns of course. I would love to see the graphics as my little Asura rolls into combat wielding Twilight and Juggernaut. I would probably laugh so hard I would fall out my seat.

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Posted by: ZDragon.3046

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I still say they should just bite the bullet. Brin spears from under water and allow them on land for warriors and bam lancer spec this way warrior gets a new weapon without the question of something kitten like daggers or pistols which just dont fit warrior well at all.

At some point they are going to have to bring new weapons into the game or elite specs wont get very far at all. Might get 1 round or 2 then every profession will be able to equip every weapon thats not gemicky sounding in the game. I mean i cant see necro equipping a pistol and i cant see thief equping an hammer or gs for an spec either. They are quickly treading on thin ice with options.

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Posted by: DKShang.8792

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Sort of like tridents and gladiator style? Yeah, I feel that.

How about attack #5, spear your enemy, plant the base of the trident with your foot, and launch the speared enemy for 250 units behind you with a 2 sec knock down.

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Posted by: Sinmir.6504

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I still say they should just bite the bullet. Brin spears from under water and allow them on land for warriors and bam lancer spec this way warrior gets a new weapon without the question of something kitten like daggers or pistols which just dont fit warrior well at all.

At some point they are going to have to bring new weapons into the game or elite specs wont get very far at all. Might get 1 round or 2 then every profession will be able to equip every weapon thats not gemicky sounding in the game. I mean i cant see necro equipping a pistol and i cant see thief equping an hammer or gs for an spec either. They are quickly treading on thin ice with options.

That’s exactly what I’d like to see, warriors able to use spears as a land weapon. Maybe if they had it that the same spear could be equipped to both the land and water weapon slots at the same time would also be good.
They might need to introduce new weapons at some point for new Elite Specs. 2 handed axes for example. I could think of existing weapons that wouldn’t be too out of place for Necro and Thief from the examples. Torch for Necro, some of the skins look like they would really suit the Necro. Abilities, 4 could be a burn, 5 maybe summon some kind of hell spawn minion.
Thief is even easier to choose an existing weapon for a new ES, a mace, ES title, Benevolent Bandit.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

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I still want a pistol warrior. :/

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Posted by: Henry.5713

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Don’t want warriors to get screwed again with another (gimmicky) off-hand addition only. Dual daggers would be a start even if hardly my favorite one.
That would actually be spears or even a new weapon like greataxes. Don’t see why a spear can’t be turned into a land weapon if staffs can be turned into a melee weapon for one of the elite specs. This would finally give some meaning and use to the hundreds of spear skins.

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Posted by: Mara.6782

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Spellbreaker sounds like cc spec and we already have mace for that. Melee Staff Wammo would be interesting. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wammo But dont take leaks too serious might be fake or they just change everything after.

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Posted by: Arcaedus.7290

Arcaedus.7290

Don’t want warriors to get screwed again with another (gimmicky) off-hand addition only. Dual daggers would be a start even if hardly my favorite one.
That would actually be spears or even a new weapon like greataxes. Don’t see why a spear can’t be turned into a land weapon if staffs can be turned into a melee weapon for one of the elite specs. This would finally give some meaning and use to the hundreds of spear skins.

Agreed. We have one and two handed swords/hammers, but only 1 handed axes. We also have no pole-arm type land weapons which I think would be a pretty easy inclusion if they really wanted: Just convert all underwater spears to “Harpoon,” and let “Spear” or “Glaive” become a land-type weapon that could borrow some of the skins of our current underwater spears.

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Posted by: Aureole.7862

Aureole.7862

Daggers on a Warrior !? GTFO!

I vote for either Spear / Shield as ranged weapon (Paragon) or 2H Spear in melee (and give it extended range over 1h melee).

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Posted by: alain.1659

alain.1659

Spear
Greataxe
One-handed Hammer
Pistol
Dire Maul
Pole Weapons…

Among all these options, dagger is the least proper one. Although it is idiotic for this game’s meta to prevent warriors from using “all melee and ranged weapons” (non-magic), it is the style. But come on, there are better options.