Guild Wars 2

So i have been seeing some warriors with 100% uptime 4-5s immobilize, pretty much with every hit they do. Care to explain?

4-5sec immobilize??? are you it is just immobilize only not combination of kd/stun and immobilize?

Just immobilize.

different skills or auto attack? my warrior can do 3-4 sec immobilize without conditioning duration by using different skills

there is a trait that gives 1 second immobilize on each cripple.
with condition duration, you can put easily two cripples in a row immobilizing the opponent. if he start with longbow 5, then switch to any other weapon here is your 4 sec cripple.

also, main hand sword F1 attack with full adrenaline immobilize you for 4 seconds, with condition duration it can reach 5 seconds.

There’s a trait that immobilizes on cripple. The 1h sword has both a cripple and an immobilize on it, and if he adds in Throw Bolas, the warrior could easily immobilize you long enough to get his cripple and immobilize on the sword back, adding to it.

Well this doesn’t seem fair at all, doesn’t matter how many condition remove and blink skills you have you just get stuck to the ground 100% of the time. Not to mention warriors still deal ridiculous damage in this ‘spec’.

Sure warrior 1h sword and ridiculous amount of dmg…

@hharry: What class do you play? I guarantee we can think of an ultra easy way for you to get out of this in 2 minutes or less.

its glass builds with leg specialist and bolas, you just need to time your cond remove for the bolas, the others apply only 1sec. hardly an exploit, and not overpowered by any means.

hharry.1967:

doesn’t matter how many condition remove and blink skills you have you just get stuck to the ground 100% of the time. Not to mention warriors still deal ridiculous damage in this ‘spec’.

uhhh no. at most you’re looking at 9 seconds of immobilize: 4 seconds on burst, 4 seconds on bola, and 1 second on the cripple. and thats assuming he’s right on top of you when he throws his bola and has max adrenaline for the burst skill. also bola is 20s CD, burst needs to be recharged and also has CD (dont remember off the top of my head but i want to say 10) and the cripple is 15s CD, with good kiting you can keep him starved of adrenaline for a long time.
now assuming he does the rotation of throw bolas first, you just dodge. the animation is slow and easy to dodge, plus also very buggy so sidestepping works a lot of the time.
if bolas hit then he’ll do sword 2 to close the gap onto you, and if he already has max adrenaline then he’ll probably go for the burst since thats where most his dmg is. THIS is where you use your escape move. it makes him need to recharge his adrenaline and caused him to lose most of his dmg.
Also, sword dmg is low. most of it comes from the bleeds which are applied from the first two auto attacks and the sword burst.

People use throw bolas? that thing misses half the time if the enemy is even on a slight incline lol.

If you’re getting immobilized alot, it probably is throw bolas. It has a relatively low cd, but its pretty easy to dodge, and it randomly misses on its own if your on a different elevation. Its a really inconsistent skill; most of the time its only worth it if you can lock them down via some other method first, so that your throw bolas will for sure land (ie a stun, or another immobilize applied first via ranged, like a leg specialist-cripple)

Its leg specialist and its a 1 sec. But you can do somthing like immo, shield stun, bullcharge weapon swap, stun with hammer knock down again and immo. So ya its not a 9 sec immo but its enough CC to disable you for 9 secs. LTP.

Flurry (1-hand sword F skill) is a 4 second immobilize. Warriors can hit you with the beginning animation of Flurry just to immobilize you, then interrupt themselves and swap to something else and continue pummeling away.

Throw Bolas is quite trash due to how easily it is to botch the projectile. It is not a reliable immobilize, which is why most players don’t bother using it. If a Warrior does manage to land the Bolas on you, that Warrior deserves an applause for achieving such a feat.

do you happen to remember what weapons they were using?

these are all the warrior immobilize/cripple skills:
flurry – 1h sword
pin down – longbow
throw bolas – utility

with leg specialist, these skills will do a 1 sec immobilize:
aimed shot – rifle
blade trail – greatsword
hammer shock – hammer..duh
hamstring – 1h sword
throw axe – axe..

i do see a couple of easily chain-able skills in that list, so it is quite possible that you got hit by several immobilizes in a row, but really you just need to know that immobilize by itself will not kill you..just use your condition removal when youre about to be hit by hb or whatever they were using.

Its not 100% the warrior problem, but it lets other classes kitten you while the warrior just keeps you pinned to the ground 24/7. This game lacks seriously of diminishing returns.

well warriors not the only one that can do that..necro, guardian, ranger, engineer and elementalist can all cc you so hard that others can get in on the action before you can react

Sword F1 with L3 adrenaline, swap to GS. Pwn noob.

Or swap to…anything? If you’re not breaking a 4s immobilize (which is tough-ish with the bleed covering condition being applied immediately) and dodge rolling or popping some kind of save-me ability, you’re going to die.

hharry.1967:

Its not 100% the warrior problem, but it lets other classes kitten you while the warrior just keeps you pinned to the ground 24/7. This game lacks seriously of diminishing returns.

If he has friends, bring your own friends? I mean, you go 1vX and expect to survive or what? (I’m assuming good opponents, keyboard turners don’t count :P ).

Nice thread name btw, you should edit it to: New warrior exploit – they’re using skills other than HB!

Stacking 4 seconds of root on every hit isn’t possible but keeping you rooted for more the 4 seconds is. Other classes can easily do this as well though like thief with venoms and ranger with traps and elite skill. The only problem I see here is that if you not specced to remove conditions on the regular, there is no solid way of removing roots in general.