Guild Wars 2

Some normal burst skills (especially sword, mace, greatsword) feel completely outdated imo. Flurry feels just horrible the way it is coded and the animation feels off.

Axe: Eviscerate -> fine
Greatsword: Arcing Slice -> more damge per adrenaline level
Hammer: Earthshaker -> fine, maybe slight dmg increase per adrenaline level
Longbow: Combustive Shot -> fine
Mace: Skull Crack -> slight dmg increase per adrenaline level, leap animation like the primal burst skill with increased range
Rifle : Kill Shot -> slight channeling duration reduction
Sword: Flurry -> now functions like Flame Flurry but with bleeding projectiles, bleed duration is 3, 4, 5 seconds depending on adrenaline level

Greatsword has fury scaling per level, that’s why the damage doesn’t scale. Also, odds are we would see the stage 1 and 2 damage being lowered but stage 3 staying where it’s at now.

The above statement also applies to mace’s burst skill except the stun scales.

If the damage were to scale we would either get worse damage at the lower adrenaline levels or see the current scaling mechanic turned to crap.

GS burst went from doo doo to slightly more shiny doo doo.

I don’t even care much about the scaling. My biggest issue is the fact how hard it is to hit for example mace burst and how much more fluid the promal burst feels. Similiar stuff with swords flurry.

Good idea for Flurry. Needs the locking removed too. The only skills that should lock you are incredibly high hitting ones (Meteor Shower/Hundred Blades).

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GS burst went from doo doo to slightly more shiny doo doo.

Remember the old gs burst at first few months of game’s release? Those were the days….
“You use your greatsword burst? NOOOOOB!”

most original burst skills are bull kitten skills that does not deserve a burst skill name tag on it tbh..
even some of primal burst are lackluster, like hammer one

they should just name these “normal skill that consume adrenaline”

Hammer F1 would be fine if they fixed the bug where it doesn’t work on elevation differences..

Flurry needs to apply small amounts of immobile PER HIT instead of all in the first hit.

WWWWWWWW.6742:

Flurry needs to apply small amounts of immobile PER HIT instead of all in the first hit.

All in the first hit does allow for you to stow weapon and set up a burst though.

WWWWWWWW.6742:

Flurry needs to apply small amounts of immobile PER HIT instead of all in the first hit.

It would have 0 usage as a weapon outside of condition builds then. Make it immobilize blind and steal/strip boons…then i’d be cool with channeling it.

I would KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL my family for skull crack to have the Primal Burst animation.

srs

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GS burst went from doo doo to slightly more shiny doo doo.

Remember the old gs burst at first few months of game’s release? Those were the days….
“You use your greatsword burst? NOOOOOB!”

Lol I forget what it used to do. Now I use it more for the hidden damage. THe animation is fluid enough that it looks like an auto attack and more players do not dodge it like eviscerate.

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GS burst went from doo doo to slightly more shiny doo doo.

Remember the old gs burst at first few months of game’s release? Those were the days….
“You use your greatsword burst? NOOOOOB!”

Lol I forget what it used to do. Now I use it more for the hidden damage. THe animation is fluid enough that it looks like an auto attack and more players do not dodge it like eviscerate.

Arcing slice didn’t even…Arc…it was a garbage…slow as balls downward chop. Terrible. At least now I can clear things like illusions, minions from minionmancers, etc

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GS burst went from doo doo to slightly more shiny doo doo.

Remember the old gs burst at first few months of game’s release? Those were the days….
“You use your greatsword burst? NOOOOOB!”

Lol I forget what it used to do. Now I use it more for the hidden damage. THe animation is fluid enough that it looks like an auto attack and more players do not dodge it like eviscerate.

Arcing slice didn’t even…Arc…it was a garbage…slow as balls downward chop. Terrible. At least now I can clear things like illusions, minions from minionmancers, etc

Oh yeah it was like a limit breaker for cloud from ff7. I remember now.

None of the bursts should be telegraphed. They are way, way too easy to dodge.

Stochastic.1398:

None of the bursts should be telegraphed. They are way, way too easy to dodge.

I 100% disagree. The telegraphing is what makes landing them worthwhile and impressive. Make them too fast and we become like Revs. The real problem with Burst skills is that there are too many easy ways to avoid being hit by them even if you time them properly. Making Burst skills more RELIABLE but not EASIER is way healthier imo. You can do this by:

1. Swapping Leg Specialist with Restorative Strength. Almost all War weapons have a cripple and when comboed correctly makes landing Bursts like Evis and Earthshaker much easier. I would also give cripple on Mace’s Pommel Bash and Longbow’s Smoldering Arrow.

2. A Minor trait that removes blind when you use your burst (and possibly make you immune to it for the channel). My suggestion would be scrapping Thick Skin.

3. Revert some of the damage nerfs on Earthshaker and Combustive Shot. They don’t need to be as good as before, but atm Longbow is basically worthless because it is a hybrid weapon that doesn’t really do much real damage outside of Pin Down.

These changes would still make burst skills take some though and timing to land, but still be counterable by blocks and dodges.

The game needs more telegraphs and less passive defense. Lets not perpetuate the skilless gameplay we already have.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Stochastic.1398:

None of the bursts should be telegraphed. They are way, way too easy to dodge.

I 100% disagree. The telegraphing is what makes landing them worthwhile and impressive. Make them too fast and we become like Revs. The real problem with Burst skills is that there are too many easy ways to avoid being hit by them even if you time them properly. Making Burst skills more RELIABLE but not EASIER is way healthier imo. You can do this by:

1. Swapping Leg Specialist with Restorative Strength. Almost all War weapons have a cripple and when comboed correctly makes landing Bursts like Evis and Earthshaker much easier. I would also give cripple on Mace’s Pommel Bash and Longbow’s Smoldering Arrow.

2. A Minor trait that removes blind when you use your burst (and possibly make you immune to it for the channel). My suggestion would be scrapping Thick Skin.

3. Revert some of the damage nerfs on Earthshaker and Combustive Shot. They don’t need to be as good as before, but atm Longbow is basically worthless because it is a hybrid weapon that doesn’t really do much real damage outside of Pin Down.

These changes would still make burst skills take some though and timing to land, but still be counterable by blocks and dodges.

The game needs more telegraphs and less passive defense. Lets not perpetuate the skilless gameplay we already have.

sorry, but more reliably means easier

I’d like normal evis to be cone pulse; like the after effect of primal evis, but not the halved damage, and doesn’t require u to hit 1 person for the wave to trigger. Being able to move while casting it, so you can aim and/or turn around as the cast finishes, allowing more input than an paragraphed attack that locks you in animation (where your have to swap weapon to dodge or bait dodge). And the aoe providing more teamfight competence and more reliable cleansing ire and berserker’s power proc.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Stochastic.1398:

None of the bursts should be telegraphed. They are way, way too easy to dodge.

I 100% disagree. The telegraphing is what makes landing them worthwhile and impressive. Make them too fast and we become like Revs. The real problem with Burst skills is that there are too many easy ways to avoid being hit by them even if you time them properly. Making Burst skills more RELIABLE but not EASIER is way healthier imo. You can do this by:

1. Swapping Leg Specialist with Restorative Strength. Almost all War weapons have a cripple and when comboed correctly makes landing Bursts like Evis and Earthshaker much easier. I would also give cripple on Mace’s Pommel Bash and Longbow’s Smoldering Arrow.

2. A Minor trait that removes blind when you use your burst (and possibly make you immune to it for the channel). My suggestion would be scrapping Thick Skin.

3. Revert some of the damage nerfs on Earthshaker and Combustive Shot. They don’t need to be as good as before, but atm Longbow is basically worthless because it is a hybrid weapon that doesn’t really do much real damage outside of Pin Down.

These changes would still make burst skills take some though and timing to land, but still be counterable by blocks and dodges.

The game needs more telegraphs and less passive defense. Lets not perpetuate the skilless gameplay we already have.

I’m going to agree, I absolutely cannot stand garbage like Rev sword 3, or semi- non telegraphed very high burst attacks, it’s what makes for spam wars and takes the skill out of it. It’s exactly what we need to get away from. I always felt Hammer could have a burst similar to Blaze Breaker, just a straight up ground shockwave that kd’s or stuns and doesn’t require a leap animation. Like an Earth Shatter in a wide arc, like some of those HOT mobs.

Obindo.6802:

I’d like normal evis to be cone pulse; like the after effect of primal evis, but not the halved damage, and doesn’t require u to hit 1 person for the wave to trigger. Being able to move while casting it, so you can aim and/or turn around as the cast finishes, allowing more input than an paragraphed attack that locks you in animation (where your have to swap weapon to dodge or bait dodge). And the aoe providing more teamfight competence and more reliable cleansing ire and berserker’s power proc.

AoE eviscerate is just arcing slice right?
Sure the damage is lower, but the concept is there.

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Obindo.6802:

I’d like normal evis to be cone pulse; like the after effect of primal evis, but not the halved damage, and doesn’t require u to hit 1 person for the wave to trigger. Being able to move while casting it, so you can aim and/or turn around as the cast finishes, allowing more input than an paragraphed attack that locks you in animation (where your have to swap weapon to dodge or bait dodge). And the aoe providing more teamfight competence and more reliable cleansing ire and berserker’s power proc.

AoE eviscerate is just arcing slice right?
Sure the damage is lower, but the concept is there.

Na, cone pulse (thin), with range, like normal evis range (or more)