Oh hey a patch.
10 days late =\, maybe you’ll be back to say the same thing again 3 weeks from now =P
10 days late =\, maybe you’ll be back to say the same thing again 3 weeks from now =P
Todays patch?
Today’s patch was something with exploit, I thought you were referring to 3/26’s update.
Today’s patch was something with exploit, I thought you were referring to 3/26’s update.
Nah. 3/26 was a warrior nerf.
Nerfing the lowest tier profession, cmon anet, thats just low.
Today’s patch was something with exploit, I thought you were referring to 3/26’s update.
Nah. 3/26 was a warrior nerf.
Nerfing the lowest tier profession, cmon anet, thats just low.
I’m actually ok with the patch. Yes, we are weaker now, but haste was a broken ability not just for warriors, but even more for thiefs and rangers. At least by killing the gimmick bullsrush frenzy build, we can see some real changes coming to warriors (hopefully..).
Skullclamp
Today’s patch was something with exploit, I thought you were referring to 3/26’s update.
Nah. 3/26 was a warrior nerf.
Nerfing the lowest tier profession, cmon anet, thats just low.
I’m actually ok with the patch. Yes, we are weaker now, but haste was a broken ability not just for warriors, but even more for thiefs and rangers. At least by killing the gimmick bullsrush frenzy build, we can see some real changes coming to warriors (hopefully..).
You must be joking. You think that changes will happen because they broke our only viable build?
Yeah, thats how it works. Break class and then leave it for months then buff it.
Oh wait, this is Anet logic. stares are we gonna be the next ele? shrugs eh, its like anet just absolutely HATES us though. They consistently ignore us and then do a 180 and nerf frenzy which primarily effects warriors the most.
This wasn’t in SoTG adn we were already dead last.
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TL:DR If your fine with it cool, but for those of us who play warrior, its not.
Don’t know how you can say the quickness nerf hurts Warriors the most. It took the only decent elite Mesmers had and made it near useless too. I mean Mesmers have to waste an elite slot and it is on a super long CD and they didn’t get any duration increase unlike frenzy.
All classes are suffering in some aspect (besides guardian, arguably).
Just wait.
Warrior is still top for PvE and is viable in WvWvW although limited in role selection.
I rather have them take their sweet, sweet time and release a good balance patch then listen to people’s complaints, give in, and release a crappy one.
Today’s patch was something with exploit, I thought you were referring to 3/26’s update.
Nah. 3/26 was a warrior nerf.
Nerfing the lowest tier profession, cmon anet, thats just low.
I’m actually ok with the patch. Yes, we are weaker now, but haste was a broken ability not just for warriors, but even more for thiefs and rangers. At least by killing the gimmick bullsrush frenzy build, we can see some real changes coming to warriors (hopefully..).
You must be joking. You think that changes will happen because they broke our only viable build?
Yeah, thats how it works. Break class and then leave it for months then buff it.
Oh wait, this is Anet logic. stares are we gonna be the next ele? shrugs eh, its like anet just absolutely HATES us though. They consistently ignore us and then do a 180 and nerf frenzy which primarily effects warriors the most.
This wasn’t in SoTG adn we were already dead last.
—————————————————TL:DR If your fine with it cool, but for those of us who play warrior, its not.
Let’s face it, it was a kittenty 3 button build. When I want play warrior, i want to utilize all my weapon skills and all my utilities and not press 3 buttons then wait 60 seconds.
Spvp is kinda in the kittenter for the warrior, but wvw is fine at the moment. We aren’t top tier there, but i’d put us at a decent top 3-4 class at least. That’s because warriors scale incredibly well with stats and we have some good food available. We will see next patch(es) if anet will start to change some of the warrior skills to suit a purposeful play more.
Skullclamp
Let’s face it, it was a kittenty 3 button build. When I want play warrior, i want to utilize all my weapon skills and all my utilities and not press 3 buttons then wait 60 seconds.
Spvp is kinda in the kittenter for the warrior, but wvw is fine at the moment. We aren’t top tier there, but i’d put us at a decent top 3-4 class at least. That’s because warriors scale incredibly well with stats and we have some good food available. We will see next patch(es) if anet will start to change some of the warrior skills to suit a purposeful play more.
Oh I’m sorry, you think it was 3 button build? Oh……i forget.
Yeah I tend to forget pve/wvw players don’t realize that in spvp the crit damage/chance isn’t as high.
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Warriors are in the lowest tier for spvp. I’m not joking, i’m not being pessimistic, they are dead last and that has been the case for many months and many patches.
Its not just this last patch, every patch tends to just overlook us and buff our PVE attributes when we already are top-dogs.
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Also a 3 button class? Again, in wvw, sure. But so are a lot of builds on a lot of professions. In spvp? No. tpvp? Good luck getting that glichy bulls rush to work in the first place.
Its like you go “it shouldn’t be a three button class” and then don’t realize that we have NO alternatives after that was taken away.
Let’s face it, it was a kittenty 3 button build. When I want play warrior, i want to utilize all my weapon skills and all my utilities and not press 3 buttons then wait 60 seconds.
Spvp is kinda in the kittenter for the warrior, but wvw is fine at the moment. We aren’t top tier there, but i’d put us at a decent top 3-4 class at least. That’s because warriors scale incredibly well with stats and we have some good food available. We will see next patch(es) if anet will start to change some of the warrior skills to suit a purposeful play more.
Oh I’m sorry, you think it was 3 button build? Oh……i forget.
Yeah I tend to forget pve/wvw players don’t realize that in spvp the crit damage/chance isn’t as high.
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Warriors are in the lowest tier for spvp. I’m not joking, i’m not being pessimistic, they are dead last and that has been the case for many months and many patches.Its not just this last patch, every patch tends to just overlook us and buff our PVE attributes when we already are top-dogs.
—————————Also a 3 button class? Again, in wvw, sure. But so are a lot of builds on a lot of professions. In spvp? No. tpvp? Good luck getting that glichy bulls rush to work in the first place.
Its like you go “it shouldn’t be a three button class” and then don’t realize that we have NO alternatives after that was taken away.
Try running 20/0/30/0/20 (berserker power, slashing, turtle, last stand, spiked armor, signet mastery, mobile strikes)
Berserker amulet, soldier jewel, lyssa runes
Axe (accuracy) / shield (hydromancy), GS (accuracy)
healing surge, balanced stance, stamina, endure pain, signet of rage
If you know how to dodge, this build will take you places.
Skullclamp
Try running 20/0/30/0/20 (berserker power, slashing, turtle, last stand, spiked armor, signet mastery, mobile strikes)
Berserker amulet, soldier jewel, lyssa runes
Axe (accuracy) / shield (hydromancy), GS (accuracy)
healing surge, balanced stance, stamina, endure pain, signet of rageIf you know how to dodge, this build will take you places.
Pfft, oh wow. Didn’t realize you couldn’t build either.
Half-offense, half-defense, and you don’t even utilize lyssa’s boons. Really man,
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Its 20/20/0/10/20 for lyssa berserker. (fire runes of course).
Taking some half-done toughness isn’t going to help you at all.
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Now I see why you think warriors are fine, you don’t know how to play them.
You really can’t think outside of the box..
Skullclamp
You really can’t think outside of the box..
Its not “thinking outside the box”. Its you giving a horrible build, saying its good, then saying “warriors are ok” when anyone who pvp’s KNOWS that they aren’t.
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Btw yeah, that build you posted is awful lol, no offense but thats so uncreative.
Did they fix illusion of life today?
Still have to stay offline of another month, so hopefully some tweaks will be made by then.
But empiren is right. To play warrior at a high level you had to be in the 1%… and really the quality of a roaming (using the term loosly) warrior build at this level is directly proportional to the damage output. (With the exception of leg specialist IMO).
And as I’ve said again and again since the nerf, for top warriors this wasn’t a nerf to bull rush frenzy! No decent player should ever get hit by that if they see the warrior approach! It’s like getting hit by rtl updraft…
That said I disagree with disc being underpowered, even with the 3% burst. It’s a very underrated tree even by experienced GS warriors.
Phaatonn, London UK
Don’t know how you can say the quickness nerf hurts Warriors the most. It took the only decent elite Mesmers had and made it near useless too. I mean Mesmers have to waste an elite slot and it is on a super long CD and they didn’t get any duration increase unlike frenzy.
You mean Moa Morph is no longer an automatic ‘win’ button? … When did this happen? Its news to me…
The problem is, in and of itself, quickness. It needs to be removed and replaced…period. By nerfing it 50%, they’ve proven that increased attack speed breaks their game.
Do the right thing, remove it and replace it.
Did they fix illusion of life today?
Still have to stay offline of another month, so hopefully some tweaks will be made by then.
But empiren is right. To play warrior at a high level you had to be in the 1%… and really the quality of a roaming (using the term loosly) warrior build at this level is directly proportional to the damage output. (With the exception of leg specialist IMO).
And as I’ve said again and again since the nerf, for top warriors this wasn’t a nerf to bull rush frenzy! No decent player should ever get hit by that if they see the warrior approach! It’s like getting hit by rtl updraft…
That said I disagree with disc being underpowered, even with the 3% burst. It’s a very underrated tree even by experienced GS warriors.
Disc isn’t underpowered, its just annoying to have tree you pretty much have to spec into give you minimal returns on its secondary. No other class has this problem with that.
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Frenzy takes 50% more damage still so its pretty much useless in a team fight.
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