Guild Wars 2

Banners and shouts just seem so weak right now and are nearly useless to your team (which banners are supposed to be the warriors main support skills) even with the regen and healing traits they dont seem very helpful or worthwhile the boons granted by banners is minimal and shouts have a 5 unit cap and with the healing trait only heal around 1-2k. id really love to be a support warrior but these skills are too weak

an idea that i had for banners: make the the boon much stronger and make it more like a tool kit weapon from the engineer so that way a warrior couldnt stack these strong boons but instead chose one at a time that the team needs.

please leave feedback call me a scrub or whatever maybe it will teach me a little, maybe im just not playing right

i agree

shouts need to heal ATLEAST 1750 base.

Banners
Banners do seem very week. As far as buff skills go they are useless. not only do they have long cast times, but their benefits are negligible. so, yes they need a change. The best way to fix this would to have the banner summon to your hand, and to change the weapon skills to make them actually useful. I’ve posted in Warrior redone what I would do with them. (btw Warrior redone is very out dated)

Shouts
Shouts definitely sub par. The major problem with them is that Vigorous shouts is under-powered, but if Anet increases the healing on them the warrior would them become overpowered. Think about it, Healing Signet, Adrenal Health, shout heals, and rousing resilience would make the warrior unkillable. The best way to fix this would be to keep the heals off of shouts the same, but allow them to better scale with healing power. in this way if a warrior wanted to take all of that crazy stuff, they would the also have to choose to have very poor damage output.

It should go without saying, and I know KhainPride has endorsed this view, but Adrenal Health would have to be cut down a bit if the support skills got the kind of boosts you’re talking about.

I say this knowing full well that my own builds would be weaker for it because I never run support. But leaving it where it is while also boosting our other heals would make nigh unkillable builds, and that would suck.

Hmm … banners could use a rework, for sure. I don’t have any great suggestions.

And shouts … extra support doesn’t need to be in the form of healing. How about just making the effects better? Come on. “Fear Me” – how about a single-target Taunt + an AoE remove Fear? “On My Mark” – IDK, ANYTHING else! Even before HoT, I thought “Shake It Off” was a little bit under powered. Now, for sure. Add just a bit: AoE 1 condi clear + a self-only remove blind.