Guild Wars 2

As of now in WvW every warrior is expected to be melee. Kill Shot is niche and requires zerker to be effective which I dont want to do. Longbow is also a joke when you look at the other classes ranged weapons. If you didn’t want Warriors to be ranged why did they give us ranged weapons?!?!?! I have seen many warriors shoot their “F1” Longbow Skill down at me as i am near a gate and it does literally like 300-500 damage and then ends and the auto is soo dodgeable its like it was fired by a weak frail elderly person.

Please buff one of these two weapons so I am able to hang out with my ele friends in the backline and feel like im actually contributing if I want to relax and have fun. Its just wayy too bad to be considered with the other options. Even guardian ranged (staff type weapon) would be a great boost. Make rifle have a skill #2 called “Shotgun Mod” – Adds a shotgun to the rifle, while reducing the range to 600. And then we can do AOE/Big damage without having to be a zerker. It wouldnt be perfect, but better than the options now.

Its not fair how rangers get to be melee or ranged with no consequences. Its not fair eles can be d/d and be amazingly pro or staff and still be just as useful. Not fair thieves are amazing with d/d and then the ranged SB is a core weapon also.

You play a heavy melee class and expect to be able to camp range?

Longbow is the one weapon I always take to WvW.

Plz, just no more buffs for warrior.

You could always nuke people with the rifle’s Kill Shot burst ability.

HEAD SHOT!

knights gear – armor with soldier runes, and berserker trinkets and weapons (riffle – fire sigil) and kngihts sword warhorn – knights, energy and blood lust.

is a fun sniping build. for a backliner in wvw. ;3

You can easily run full zerk 30/0/0/10/30 in a zerg if you just pay attention and watch enemy melee train charges and mind yourself around AC fire. You can get 10k+ arcing arrows, which is hilarious to people on walls because people don’t expect that kind of burst. Combustive shot ticks for like 2k and is a long fire field, which is helpful. You’re never going to feel like you’re contributing as much as a hammer warrior when you’re ranged (because you won’t be), but you can still tag plenty of enemies and have fun.

You’re kidding right? You’ve obviously never used a longbow. It’s amazing and I always carry one with me.

Longbow is viable..Rifle inst

Longbow is great.

Most people think you need to be Full condi to make LB viable, which isn’t the case. Go zerk and be a backliner, watch the massive hits roll in.

Warrior longbow is the best implementation of all bows. Add to the the incredible strong warrior immunity skills (stability, superior passive healing, berserker stance, endure pain) and you got a OP profession (or close to). Learn to use it, cause its the best bow in guild wars, ironically enough placed on the warrior, wich should be melee only.

The general opinion seems to be that longbow is great. It’s strange because I rarely ever agree with anyone on this forum when they say something is good or bad. This is the one time that has happened. It’s quite possibly the best ranged weapon in game and you really should get one if you don’t have one now. It does feel odd being on warrior though. You’d think ranger would have the best bow skills, but that’s not the case.

Doesn’t the trait for longbow range also turn the auto attack into a 100% projectile finisher?

come on warrior ranged abilities are fine.

The way of the warrior is only one: melee.

switch to ranger in case;)

Wait, instant downs are not good enough? Warriors have the highest damage single hit ability in the game (as far as I know?) and it has 1500 range :P

Even a less extreme build should do just fine. Longbow has huge aoe and rifle deals some of the best single target long range damage in the game. How exactly are those worse than what other professions have?

Here’s a random sPvP killshot video because why not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1do5naLmU

yski.7642:

Wait, instant downs are not good enough? Warriors have the highest damage single hit ability in the game (as far as I know?) and it has 1500 range :P

Even a less extreme build should do just fine. Longbow has huge aoe and rifle deals some of the best single target long range damage in the game. How exactly are those worse than what other professions have?

Here’s a random sPvP killshot video because why not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1do5naLmU

Try that in 1v1 or 5v5 (not against noobs) setting.. If u last longer than 10sec i give ya 1g.

Scoobaniec.9561:

yski.7642:

Wait, instant downs are not good enough? Warriors have the highest damage single hit ability in the game (as far as I know?) and it has 1500 range :P

Even a less extreme build should do just fine. Longbow has huge aoe and rifle deals some of the best single target long range damage in the game. How exactly are those worse than what other professions have?

Here’s a random sPvP killshot video because why not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1do5naLmU

Try that in 1v1 or 5v5 (not against noobs) setting.. If u last longer than 10sec i give ya 1g.

WvW is full of noobs though. I have one shot thieves with point blank kill shots before.

Blix.8021:

Scoobaniec.9561:

yski.7642:

Wait, instant downs are not good enough? Warriors have the highest damage single hit ability in the game (as far as I know?) and it has 1500 range :P

Even a less extreme build should do just fine. Longbow has huge aoe and rifle deals some of the best single target long range damage in the game. How exactly are those worse than what other professions have?

Here’s a random sPvP killshot video because why not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1do5naLmU

Try that in 1v1 or 5v5 (not against noobs) setting.. If u last longer than 10sec i give ya 1g.

WvW is full of noobs though. I have one shot thieves with point blank kill shots before.

Its true, but its doesnt mean that rifle is viable.. Its outclasses in every possible way (except burst high numbers) by lb.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Try that in 1v1 or 5v5 (not against noobs) setting.. If u last longer than 10sec i give ya 1g.

Would a few solo arena games qualify? I like to think I’m rather good at keeping myself alive, and I could always use an extra gold or two
(Say.. 5 games in row with a total of 5 deaths or less using the same build I used in the hot join video? If I manage to do that and post a video to prove it I’ll get 1g?)

Anyway, even a non glass cannon warrior can do respectable long range damage, and your average WvW player (since the OP was talking about WvW) isn’t exactly skilled either. Your not against a noob scenario is unlikely to happen in WvW, and if you really need more survivability then go for it!

If I can get away with a 4 signet thief, you really shouldn’t be complaining about rifle warrior survivability :P

EDIT: As for longbow being better than rifle, that’s a different story, and I might even agree with you there. That being said, rifle does have a longer default range and is easier to hit moving targets with.

Anyway, the point was that warrior long range weapons are awesome. Longbows being better doesn’t really change anything there

yski.7642:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Try that in 1v1 or 5v5 (not against noobs) setting.. If u last longer than 10sec i give ya 1g.

Would a few solo arena games qualify? I like to think I’m rather good at keeping myself alive, and I could always use an extra gold or two
(Say.. 5 games in row with a total of 5 deaths or less using the same build I used in the hot join video? If I manage to do that and post a video to prove it I’ll get 1g?)

Anyway, even a non glass cannon warrior can do respectable long range damage, and your average WvW player (since the OP was talking about WvW) isn’t exactly skilled either. Your not against a noob scenario is unlikely to happen in WvW, and if you really need more survivability then go for it!

If I can get away with a 4 signet thief, you really shouldn’t be complaining about rifle warrior survivability :P

EDIT: As for longbow being better than rifle, that’s a different story, and I might even agree with you there. That being said, rifle does have a longer default range and is easier to hit moving targets with

I actually running gs+rifle with 1,6k toughness and based on target armor killshots tend to one shot glass thieves, down to 5k tanky guards/wars. Average damage i doing sits at 7,5k with bleeds on. As for rifle vs lb range i have bad news to u.. Due to arrow bug, real range of lb is 1250 untrained. Check by urself

Pin down is the strongest bleed in the game, on par with eruption in terms of output… but we know how much the latter sucks to aim. Seriously, how can you call 16k+ worth of bleed on a single skill weak? With 4-5 sec immo.? You’re out of your mind.

Scoobaniec.9561:

I actually running gs+rifle with 1,6k toughness and based on target armor killshots tend to one shot glass thieves, down to 5k tanky guards/wars. Average damage i doing sits at 7,5k with bleeds on. As for rifle vs lb range i have bad news to u.. Due to arrow bug, real range of lb is 1250 untrained. Check by urself

Your numbers sound a bit lower than what I’m used to seeing, but could be. I’d personally go with sword/shield as a secondary weapon set, simply because it offers amazing defense and mobility while still having a handy finishing move. You complained about lack of survivability earlier, didn’t you?

I didn’t know about the range bug, +1 for that. That still doesn’t change the fact it’s difficult to hit moving targets with a longbow though. At any rate, I actually agree with you on that longbows probably are better than rifles overall, so let’s just leave it at that.

Anyway, what about that 1g you mentioned earlier? Does my 5 game proposal sound reasonable?

Dude the kill shot pawns what are you complaining off :P