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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

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Bumping from —-——————————- >>>

Theory Crafting with that_shaman’s datamined builder on dulfy.net
Assuming nothing changes, I believe I will be playing something along the lines of this (albeit, everything could change, and our specialization could prove to actually be good, but im doubtful about that, but who knows!):

With Celestial or Zerk and Hoelbrak runes in Both wvw/spvp.

S.D.D. – GS/LB GreatBow Build

Utilities
Healing Signet
Balanced Stance
Bull’s Charge
Berserker Stance
Signet of Rage

Air/Fire sigils on GS & Doom/Earth sigils on LB


Now for some fun builds and theorycrafting!
S.D.D. – Mace/shield + Hammer: CC

-=S.A.D. – Sword/Sword + Axe/Axe : Bladedancer/Edgemaster (Condi) PvX=-

S.A.D. – Bladedance: Variation 1
S.A.D. – Edgemaster: Variation 2

-=sPvP=-

~sPvP~ D.D.T. Shoutty Hambow Banner Point Holder
~sPvP~ D.T.A. Shoutbow Banner Point Holder

-=PvE=-
PVE Group – T.S.A. -Phalanx Strength dps
PVE Group – S.T.D. Phalanx Strength & Banners

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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Theory Crafting with that_shaman’s datamined builder on dulfy.net
Assuming nothing changes, I believe I will be playing something along the lines of this (albeit, everything could change, and our specialization could prove to actually be good, but im doubtful about that, but who knows!):

GS and Axe/Shield Build

with Celestial or zerk and hoelbrak runes in Both wvw/spvp. With GS and Axe/Shield, possibly switching the grandmaster trait from berserker power to the axe mastery trait. As it is currently unavailable for testing, we will not know what will work most effectively, obviously.

for GS/LB I will switch to a variant:
switching the adept shield mastery to dogged because I would no longer benefit from shield less shield mastery.

Now for some fun builds and theorycrafting!
Mace/shield + Hammer: CC
Sword/Sword + Axe/Axe : Bladedancer/Edgemaster
Variation 1: Blademaster
Variation 2: Edgemaster
Possible Shoutty Hambow Banner Point Holder

PVE Phalanx Strength dps

About the GS/X builds.. i think everyone will run the same traits (maby some difference in discipline.. )

And some links doesnt seem to work..

And btw that dulfy site is so kitten SLOOOW!! whats wrong with it?? something issnt right about there calculator.. it makes your browser almost crash :-P

(edited by nicknamenick.2437)

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

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About the GS/X builds.. i think everyone will run the same traits (maby some difference in discipline.. )

And some links doesnt seem to work..

And btw that dulfy site is so kitten SLOOOW!! whats wrong with it?? something issnt right about there calculator.. it makes your browser almost crash :-P

not sure, the site works fine on chrome and firefox for me. also fine on my phone. are you trying to load multiple links at once? i tried that and it went slow but it didnt crash.

there are a few problems with the way it saves, as some others have mentioned in other threads.

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You don’t want Dual Wielding in Arms. In order to maintain 100% uptime of maxed out Berserker’s Power you’re going to want Furious. Also, since the build doesn’t have Fast Hands you won’t be swapping to Axe set so that trait doesn’t do so much for you.

In solo play, you will probably want Strength, Arms, Discipline for Fast Hands since being stuck on Axe for 10 seconds isn’t really great for boss solos and Phalanx Strength isn’t especially exciting when solo. The new Heightened Focus will be especially powerful in solo play where it will be a massive overall DPS boost.

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

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You don’t want Dual Wielding in Arms. In order to maintain 100% uptime of maxed out Berserker’s Power you’re going to want Furious. Also, since the build doesn’t have Fast Hands you won’t be swapping to Axe set so that trait doesn’t do so much for you.

In solo play, you will probably want Strength, Arms, Discipline for Fast Hands since being stuck on Axe for 10 seconds isn’t really great for boss solos and Phalanx Strength isn’t especially exciting when solo. The new Heightened Focus will be especially powerful in solo play where it will be a massive overall DPS boost.

Thanks for the input. That does make a lot of sense. I don’t pve that often so that kind of building is a little out of my area of expertise

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bumping this for specialization patch relevance.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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Hey assasin,

I swapped longbow for hammer.
Longbow just doesnt do enough dmg anymore in a power build, maby with cele/might stacking you can do its old dmg again but i rather have a weapon that apply pressure from the start.

Besides, with the cleansing on weapon swap we can miss a burst from time to time…
And when you cant do enough pressure you just wasting time to survive.. it worked pre patch because the condi did allot of dmg also.. now not so sure anymore.

With hamm/gs i dont need that sustain (still enough sustain) but i can apply pressure right from the start, forcing others to go defensive

build: X/0/X/0/X
all standard traits.. only not so sure about GM trait for discipline:

hammer
or
burst mastery
or
quickness

All works so well..

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Hey assasin,

I swapped longbow for hammer.
Longbow just doesnt do enough dmg anymore in a power build, maby with cele/might stacking you can do its old dmg again but i rather have a weapon that apply pressure from the start.

Besides, with the cleansing on weapon swap we can miss a burst from time to time…
And when you cant do enough pressure you just wasting time to survive.. it worked pre patch because the condi did allot of dmg also.. now not so sure anymore.

With hamm/gs i dont need that sustain (still enough sustain) but i can apply pressure right from the start, forcing others to go defensive

build: X/0/X/0/X
all standard traits.. only not so sure about GM trait for discipline:

hammer
or
burst mastery
or
quickness

All works so well..

you are absolutely right. i just prefer the longbow since i have been playing gs longbow since closed beta XD

before the patch i had been playing with gs/axe/shield just to spite the longbow because everyone thinks you cant play war without CI and LB. but all the ppl i kill 1v 1-4 in wvw would say that you can kill ppl without CI and the LB.

i also enjoy the uncertainty for my opponents that comes along with my build, as can be seen with my duel with Nhymx (TDM).

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nicknamenick.2437

Hey assasin,

I swapped longbow for hammer.
Longbow just doesnt do enough dmg anymore in a power build, maby with cele/might stacking you can do its old dmg again but i rather have a weapon that apply pressure from the start.

Besides, with the cleansing on weapon swap we can miss a burst from time to time…
And when you cant do enough pressure you just wasting time to survive.. it worked pre patch because the condi did allot of dmg also.. now not so sure anymore.

With hamm/gs i dont need that sustain (still enough sustain) but i can apply pressure right from the start, forcing others to go defensive

build: X/0/X/0/X
all standard traits.. only not so sure about GM trait for discipline:

hammer
or
burst mastery
or
quickness

All works so well..

you are absolutely right. i just prefer the longbow since i have been playing gs longbow since closed beta XD

before the patch i had been playing with gs/axe/shield just to spite the longbow because everyone thinks you cant play war without CI and LB. but all the ppl i kill 1v 1-4 in wvw would say that you can kill ppl without CI and the LB.

i also enjoy the uncertainty for my opponents that comes along with my build, as can be seen with my duel with Nhymx (TDM).

Aah yeah the people saying your OP if they fail and call you a OP hambow/shoutbow.. just because you run longbow.. (and not even hambow/shoutbow) lol @ them :-P

Been using gs/lb for almost 2 years now i think? but yeah it hurts me still to drop longbow.. but i am having a good time with hammer now (only not vs blind uugh) but yeah if nothing changed about condi so longbow still did good dmg in power builds i would stick to gs/lb everyday.

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Imy still switching between gs/lb and gs/a/sh and swapping shield master and dogged march. Honestly been running the same thing before and dropping dogged for shield master pre-spec patch and wasn’t seeing a negative effect on condi effects. But now that condi overload is here. Still getting used to running without dogged sometimes. The extra regeneration helps sometimes as well as the condi duration reduce, but you are still pretty survivable without dogged.

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