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Posted by: Vicarious.3047

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So again I’ve been testing warrior specs cause we don’t seem to have anymore good ones for sPvP, and I might have come across something I think a lot of warriors have probably ben doing in the past or might have found it like I did.

Bolas….

Yeah you heard me! Replace frenzy with bolas, bullrush in, use bolas instead of frenzy, and use a full 100B.

Ofc if the person has condi removal theyll move away, but if they had stability theyd have moved away before too so it might be just as likely to land as the frenzy combo did.

My issue however is again my tourney team is taking a break (one got into LoL, another joined the Navy, and anothers band is starting to “hit big,” we still have 4 great players but we don’t really want to bother with pugs atm lol), so I’ve been testing these out in hotjoins……. yeah, UGH!

Well people are dumb in that, so they don’t normally even try to break out of immobilize so I’m not entirely sure how well it’ll do against tourney players who typically manage their condis fairly well. Also an issue with hotjoin is the ZERGS! Half the time I can’t get a full unquickened 100B simply cause there are 7 other players all around that one target I market that seem to always attack the charr characters in heavy armor cause theyre “easier to see,” which means me lol (Good when I’m on my charr bunker guardian though, they all attack me first, it’s ridiculous! HAHA).

So I’m just wondering, has anyone else used bolas in place of frenzy in tourneys? All I know is that the main reason people didn’t use it is cause it tends to miss for no reason at all, but if you use it on a BR’d opponent they can’t dodge and it won’t miss. So yeah, anyone know if it’s any good? And if not, which I’m assuming the case will be, why not? Cause I haven’t figured it out yet lol

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Posted by: Venereus.9473

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I’ve used Bolas to burst with 100b in WvW for a while now since that frees up more utility slots (no Frenzy means no Endure Pain to cover Frenzy and no Bullrush since 2 seconds CC only works with quickness). I didn’t even charge in with Bullrush, I instead run up to them normally and try to use Bolas at melee range so they couldn’t easily see it and dodge it. However, 4 seconds is plenty of time for a decent player to remove the CC and escape, and if that’s not an option they can also pop other counters, like a Protection boon, a blocking skill, or even their heal. On the other hand, Bolas’ short cd allows you to try again during the fight and being immobilized while having a 100b in your face does panic some people so they don’t always react.

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Posted by: Empiren.6401

Empiren.6401

Except bola’s are countered with:

Blocks
LoS
Condition removal
It missing a lot.
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You’ll still be doing no burst and it gives you an extra immobolize. Which would be awesome if that wasn’t already spammed by every other class anyways.

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Posted by: Vicarious.3047

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To be fair Empiren, blocks and LoS countered the original 100B combo as well lol

But yeah I get your points, from both you guys. I also hadn’t considered people just defensively buffing through it, mainly with protection like Venereus mentioned. Also yeah I guess I could throw away BR and use GS5 to close to melee to land it, but idk, I really like BR lol

Although I was testing it out again tonight in hotjoins and I was literally spamming the crap out of bolas on anything I could and not a one glitched and did that “obstructed” thing when it wasn’t actually obstructed lol Got full 100Bs off, easy Evis landings, and great to land mace5 as well to set up more combos and vulnerability stacks.

But the key word there is HOTJOINS lol I guess only thing left too do is get my team together and convince them to let me try the bolas build in a tourney!

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Posted by: Empiren.6401

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Well in hotjoins even a simple slow may be enough because most people are so dead set on their target to begin with.

Bola’s vs guardians or mesmers or stealth thiefs, say goodnight
(or ele’s for that matter)

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Posted by: Vicarious.3047

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Bola’s vs guardians or mesmers or stealth thiefs, say goodnight
(or ele’s for that matter)

Well eles and guardians have been hard to hit any sort of burst on, so I was kind of expecting that. As for mesmers, yeah I guess that will be an issue, with all the teleporting and what not.

Thieves though, I guess if theyre good/quick then yeah they’ll just teleport away, but many times now I’ve hit them with bolas and they’ve stealthed, so i just run over and use 100B on that spot and 75% of the time they reappear on the ground lol

I know any decent thief won’t due that, I just thought it was funny how bad most hotjoin thieves really are and thought I’d share lol ;3