Guild Wars 2

I’ve got a sinister geared Warrior and I’m curious to see what traits people took for their condition/hybrid builds.

Thanks in advance

Hybrid here, sorta.
Knight armor with hoelbrak runes
Zerker trinkets
Rampager swords with rage/strength sigils.

I’ve picked up Berserker’s fury, blademaster and furious in arms, coupled with heightened focus in discipline.

Skipped the signets because a 50ish% base crit with blademaster and signet of rage gives me enough and i like how fast adrenaline builds. After a flurry i get another full bar way before the CD is over.

Starts a bit slow, but as soon as i get some might and furious surge stacks bleeds become painful. Better against groups i think, were cleave crits on multiple enemies and speed up the process.
I should try with rampagers at some point, looks fun.

Sword/Sword + Longbow

Full Sinister with Aristocracy Runes
Food: Koi Cakes
Nourishment: toxic focusing crystals

Strength, Arms Discipline.

Rotation: Auto attack in sword, use Impale on cool down. Use Flurry on cooldown. Swap to long bow everytime pin down is off cool down. Drop a full adren fire field, blast it, fan of fire, swap back to sword. Repeat.

Does it out-dps zerker?

After some testing yesterday, Tactics is better than Strength. Burning Arrows reduces the cool down of Pin Down which means you can restack burning every 20 seconds instead of every 25.

And no, it does not out DPS zerker.

I hope these build are not for dungeon run right?

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

Yes they are, applying 25+ stacks of bleed takes a while, raw zerker damage is the new meta.

Please tell me more about the meta I apparently don’t know anything about.

NikeEU.7690:

Please tell me more about the meta I apparently don’t know anything about.

Apparently, its seems like you don’t. And no, your guild tag doesn’t makes you look competent.

NIKE is right its not as bad as you think. Condi warrior good for soloing, not that great in groups. However due to the condi stack changes it isn’t as bad as you think. Before the patch the gap between condi warrior and power warrior on boss solo was very small. Some people said condi warrior could solo Lupi faster.

Warlord.9074:

NIKE is right its not as bad as you think. Condi warrior good for soloing, not that great in groups. However due to the condi stack changes it isn’t as bad as you think. Before the patch the gap between condi warrior and power warrior on boss solo was very small. Some people said condi warrior could solo Lupi faster.

As I said before not good for dungeons groups.

Rednik.3809:

NikeEU.7690:

Please tell me more about the meta I apparently don’t know anything about.

Apparently, its seems like you don’t. And no, your guild tag doesn’t makes you look competent.

Except I’m not some random schmoe, I have accomplished some things in this game and my opinion on the topic does mean quite a bit actually.

xbutcherx.3861:

Warlord.9074:

NIKE is right its not as bad as you think. Condi warrior good for soloing, not that great in groups. However due to the condi stack changes it isn’t as bad as you think. Before the patch the gap between condi warrior and power warrior on boss solo was very small. Some people said condi warrior could solo Lupi faster.

As I said before not good for dungeons groups.

That’s all relative. Is condi warrior as good as the best possible warrior build? No. Is condi warrior better than the best possible Necro build? Yes. Mesmer?
Yes. Would anyone even notice that they had a condi-warrior (who can spec for EA and PS in groups) since the dps is rather small when total group dps is considered? Probably not. The concept of kicking a condi warrior I found hilarious since a condi warrior is more useful and has better dps than quite a few “acceptable” meta builds for other classes.

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

Warlord.9074:

NIKE is right its not as bad as you think. Condi warrior good for soloing, not that great in groups. However due to the condi stack changes it isn’t as bad as you think. Before the patch the gap between condi warrior and power warrior on boss solo was very small. Some people said condi warrior could solo Lupi faster.

As I said before not good for dungeons groups.

That’s all relative. Is condi warrior as good as the best possible warrior build? No. Is condi warrior better than the best possible Necro build? Yes. Mesmer?
Yes. Would anyone even notice that they had a condi-warrior (who can spec for EA and PS in groups) since the dps is rather small when total group dps is considered? Probably not. The concept of kicking a condi warrior I found hilarious since a condi warrior is more useful and has better dps than quite a few “acceptable” meta builds for other classes.

That was before and not with the new meta after 6/23.

WvW Sword+shield / hammer .
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggFtAL4Adg~
main stat focuses 1.condi 2.Toughness 3. precision/vitality/healing power “(if Resounding resilance set up see second trait set up end of segment)”

utility:
Shake It Off
bulls charge
signet of the dolyak
healing signet
rampage

Use condi runes mad king for duration or Krait + rampage or a mix of toughness+condi stat.
Cele / rampager or Cavalier.

interruption,kd’s, pushes spreads weakness bleeds and confusion(4 stacks) on a good interrupt using bulls charge it’ll apply all of the above with 20% more damage from peak performace.
psyhical attacks increase in damage(20%) , crit hits(20%) higher vs bleeding targets.

almost all crits apply bleeds , increased crit hits vs bleeding foes )start with shield bash or bulls charge set up sword flurry to imobilise gain fury.
crits build up furious condi stacks+bleed Autos from sword+ sigil of earth.
furious grants 1 adrenaline per crit use this with flurry.

Movement skills break immobilise
bulls charge, savage leap, earthshaker, shield bash , Rampage dash+Seismic Leap.

sigils of choice i’ve not worked out which works best so far.
generosity/sigil fire = hammer
Sword = Sigil of earth
Shield= Sigil of purity
though this is what i’ve come up with for condi clear with brawlers recover it is enough.

notes:
changes could be these listed below as trait templates.
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggFtAPsAdg~ resounding reslinance for the stun breaks and healing power going into healing singet / increased toughness

or use cleansing ire though it shouldnt be needed as condi removals are covered with sigils + brawlers.

second trait set up
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggFtAT0Adg~ using tactics empowered allies, empowered (needs a team with good boon application) + powerful synergy to double the leap finishers from Savage leap (more often because of blademaster) , earth shaker , Seismic Leap.

very effective with A team that uses fire fields during active combat. hulk smash those fire fields and savage leap through them.

hp will be low , high toughness and condi , migrated through the use of healing healing signets resistance resounding resiliance for a toughness boost for direct damage reduction condi immunity during this time apply Hard CCs push, knockdown, lock down the target so they can’t reapply condis.

if you got WvW guard stacks you should have a decent amount of hp and a lot of direct damage medigation so pesky thiefs shouldnt be too much of a issue.

its one huge con is when fighting sustainted dps due to a lack of hp and healing though you have more than enough to rush in get those CC+interrputs apply the confusion+weakness+bleeds , if they attack you they die faster if they dont the bleeds keep stacking up using the combos below.

bulls charge/shield block/shield bash(your choice to open) Full AA> Save savage leap for gab close > Swap > hammer chain AA> Fierce blow >Staggering Blow> Bulls charge/shield bash> Swap Sword AA> savage leap/Final thrush>flurry(gain fury) >repeat.

between attacks use earthshakers ect and for a final use rampager for high pressure if you need to move away from somewhere or need that extra interrupt or increased HP to help finish or repostion .

each interruption applies a good amount of weakness+bleeds using sword at the end of the change Will grant you the fury you need to apply bleeds and crits with the hammer to maximise the direct damage between weapon swaps.

“Im not that much of a warroir but this can work very well if you got the right team supporting you, it is the never ending Juggernaught.”

and im sure some of you can find some better stat combination than i could for this trait set up.

NikeEU.7690:

After some testing yesterday, Tactics is better than Strength. Burning Arrows reduces the cool down of Pin Down which means you can restack burning every 20 seconds instead of every 25.

And no, it does not out DPS zerker.

I was wondering if Tactics would be better if only because Combustive isn’t setting off Berzerker’s Power. Is the DPS margin between zerker and sinister as wide as previous incarnations?

Conditions warriors are viable now; sustained damage is excellent and ramp-up is pretty good too. Don’t let the “Zerk-PS or Go-Home” guys scare you off; condition warriors may not be meta, but they very solid characters.

I really like the sword-sword playstyle; auto-chain is good, finisher is good, the leap + fire field combo is good, the block is good. Long bow is a fantastic weapon with fire fields and blinds. Lot of synergy between the weapons.

Armor: Sinister and Rampager are both solid; even a couple Berserker/Assassin pieces are fine and you can run with some Celestial as well. Lots of runes work; it’s a pretty forgiving set in terms of gear. (Rampager is easy to get and inexpensive; Sinister is more work. If you have the choice, Sinister would edge out the other options. I’d go with Rampager and whatever trinkets you have until you know its a build you like.)

Sword/Sword + Longbow
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggC_ARsBbw~

There are a lot of ways to go with that; you could easily swap in defense/strength for discipline (or tactics.) Burning Arrows is awesome, but in a group, Empower Allies can be swapped in. Furious vs. Dual Wielding is kind of a toss-up as is Burst Master vs. Heightened Focus.

For group play, you could consider Phalanx Strength + might on crit on your sword, might on swap for your bow. You won’t generate the strength stacks a GS would, but you can still boost a group a lot. The shout and leap traits aren’t bad either.

I’ve set up that example with an immob on snare / fury on immob… which is 100% fury uptime. The signet talent or berserkers fury are also good talents in arms, the horn and destroy empowered are situationally useful as well. In many ways, you are spoiled for choices. Other than Arms+Blademaster -every- talent there is changeable.

Any tips for a solo condi build refined for doing solo pve (season 2)? I like sword/x + longbow with arms/tactics/discipline but all other pieces of the build are still up in the air. I would really appreciate advice on any of the following:

Rune of Balthazar vs krait vs something else. I’ve noticed myself camping longbow because of the Balthazar runes.

Exotic rampager gear. No access to sinister yet. Is warrior condi build legit with rabid? I really like the idea of a tanky condi build with sustain but warrior may not be the best profession for it.

Utilities. Tested all shouts but it felt meh. Tried 1 banner with the regen trait for added survivability but it could just be a L2P issue.

Sigils. Bleed duration on sword and burning duration on longbow. Using bleed on crit for other sword but have also considered other on crit runes to pair with sword’s high crit rate. Tried bleed on swap rune on longbow and hated the range.

Rednik.3809:

NikeEU.7690:

Please tell me more about the meta I apparently don’t know anything about.

Apparently, its seems like you don’t. And no, your guild tag doesn’t makes you look competent.

So one of the main Warriors of one of the main PvE Guilds responsable for the PvE Metas doesn’t know anything about the metas

GENIOUS!!!

Any tips for a solo condi build refined for doing solo pve (season 2)

Season 2 has a lot of condition damage; you’ll want some good cleansing. A shout build with ‘remove condition on shout’ runes would help if you aren’t running with defense. (I don’t think there is anything wrong with rabid, but with dodging you might not get hit much.)

What would you say the optimal mix between ferocity (Zerker) and condi (Sinister) is?

Also, am I right in assuming that the 15% attack speed from Dual Wielding comes down to a 15% damage boost (+ crit procs)? Because I find it more enjoyable over Berserker’s Power.

Cortano.5419:

Any tips for a solo condi build refined for doing solo pve (season 2)

Season 2 has a lot of condition damage; you’ll want some good cleansing. A shout build with ‘remove condition on shout’ runes would help if you aren’t running with defense. (I don’t think there is anything wrong with rabid, but with dodging you might not get hit much.)

Dang. I wasn’t expecting to need Trooper runes but they would add a bit of survivability as well. Using all 6 rune slots seem like a pretty extreme reaction though. Could I get away with just trained warhorn? My least favorite condi removal option would probably be defense for cleansing ire since I feel that arms/tactics/discipline make up the backbone of the warrior condi build.

I think it’s 15% to your auto-attack chain; but with swapping weapons and other abilities all doing significant damage, its not the same as a straight 15% bump. I am kind of torn between dual wielding and furious… its pretty easy to get a lot of furious stacks and the adrenaline gain is really high. Both seem to be very solid talents.

mmmh…

I’m mastering Condition Warrior since the beginning of the game.

It can means nothing for the OP but here is how i like to play in the game.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-kittenVP0f4kL-60;9;4efg;0057037046;4O7ZFaJW8JH8_JH8_p-knQ0AI-sMzK0d081d182d2d0FWFF2m;6X-97V-9;9;9;9;9;7V6s5Y

i’m playing full Dire Stuff with krait sigils and mights seal ( synergize a lot with “furious” trait)

You have to know that you reach 60% crit chance with fury while handling a sword with this build
if you want to play more offensive gameplay , you can use another sword, but i still like to have a shield at hand just in case

this is really a build i love, but it is for solo players. If you want to plays with others a lot
i advice to play hybrid condition with “phalanx” effects, i play that and it works well, i give 25 stacks of might and i’m still dealing 4k bleed and 4k raw dmg with strong skills like “Final thrust”.

Best Regard ( and sorry for my poor english i’m tired at this hour ^-^).

NikeEU.7690:

Sword/Sword + Longbow

Full Sinister with Aristocracy Runes
Food: Koi Cakes
Nourishment: toxic focusing crystals

Strength, Arms Discipline.

Rotation: Auto attack in sword, use Impale on cool down. Use Flurry on cooldown. Swap to long bow everytime pin down is off cool down. Drop a full adren fire field, blast it, fan of fire, swap back to sword. Repeat.

What alternatives to Sinister trinkets and the Aristocracy runes would you recommend? I’m currently using Sinister armor with Krait runes and have Rabid trinkets slotted with Exquisite Ambrite jewels. Should I be opting for something else, or is what I have good in the interim until I get enough charged quartz for to craft the Sinister trinkets?

NikeEU.7690:

After some testing yesterday, Tactics is better than Strength. Burning Arrows reduces the cool down of Pin Down which means you can restack burning every 20 seconds instead of every 25.

And no, it does not out DPS zerker.

Thank you for your information. It is somewhat annoying since people are now spamming “omg condi new meta” everywhere when it pretty much isn’t.

Condi warrior may be better than some other classes zerker builds but that still doesn’t make them worth the loss in dps over a zerker warrior. With the ability to bust most dungeon bosses down in a few seconds it doesn’t give the condi a chance to take full effect. High level fractal I could see condi as a viable option for warrior but not in dungeons unless it’s soloing

On another note. The way a certain person has come in here ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are has made me loose a lot of respect for them.

Valik Shin.9027:

On another note. The way a certain person has come in here ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are has made me loose a lot of respect for them.

Oh boo hoo. If you’ll notice, the OP asked a question. I answered it to the best of my knowledge, in a simple manner. Some guy tells me I’m an idiot and “he doesn’t care about my guild tag.” Please note: I didn’t make sick brags about my guild or myself in order to put him down, he is the one who brought it up, not me. When he attacked my credibility, I defended my credibility.

If someone says “why should we trust what you have to say about warrior builds?” I think it is rather fair of me to cite the fact that I have earned a little credibility over the years.

And look at your quote again.

“ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are”

Really? Can a fair person read this thread and make that conclusion? Is that really what an honest person can say happened? Please.

Rednik effectively said to Nike, “buddy, your opinion is worthless”… out of the the blue and with zero provocation.

Nike has provided useful information and helpful advice in pretty much every thread I’ve seen him post, including this one.

Nike’s response was accurate and entirely appropriate.

NikeEU.7690:

Valik Shin.9027:

On another note. The way a certain person has come in here ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are has made me loose a lot of respect for them.

Oh boo hoo. If you’ll notice, the OP asked a question. I answered it to the best of my knowledge, in a simple manner. Some guy tells me I’m an idiot and “he doesn’t care about my guild tag.” Please note: I didn’t make sick brags about my guild or myself in order to put him down, he is the one who brought it up, not me. When he attacked my credibility, I defended my credibility.

If someone says “why should we trust what you have to say about warrior builds?” I think it is rather fair of me to cite the fact that I have earned a little credibility over the years.

And look at your quote again.

“ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are”

Really? Can a fair person read this thread and make that conclusion? Is that really what an honest person can say happened? Please.

I wasn’t attacking u for ur answer or credibility. In fact I know you are a credible source for warrior info. Also I agree that in certain situations a condi warrior well work well. But to say this is who I am and my opinion is the one that matters? That’s what I have a problem with. You wanna come on here and try and help people that’s find but don’t tell people that you are right cause of what you have done tell them what you think and move on.

Valik Shin.9027:

But to say this is who I am and my opinion is the one that matters? That’s what I have a problem with. You wanna come on here and try and help people that’s find but don’t tell people that you are right cause of what you have done tell them what you think and move on.

Except that’s not what happened at all. You should reread the exchange, paying attention to who said what.

NikeEU.7690:

Except I’m not some random schmoe, I have accomplished some things in this game and my opinion on the topic does mean quite a bit actually.

Sure sounds like that’s what he said

Valik Shin.9027:

But to say this is who I am and my opinion is the one that matters?.

He did no such thing. He said his opinion was valid, not that his opinion was superior and the only correct one.

Valik Shin.9027:

NikeEU.7690:

Except I’m not some random schmoe, I have accomplished some things in this game and my opinion on the topic does mean quite a bit actually.

Sure sounds like that’s what he said

Context matters, Valik. He said that in response to somebody saying the following to him, out of the blue, when he’d been talking to someone else who’d been trolling the thread.

Rednik.3809:

Apparently, its seems like you don’t. And no, your guild tag doesn’t makes you look competent.

In light of that, Nike saying he’s accomplished things in game and that his opinion (rather than his guild tag) matters is both accurate and entirely appropriate.

You’ve taken it even further, claiming Nike said his opinion was the only one that mattered, which he very plainly didn’t do. All he did was defend himself against someone who’s only post on this thread was to say Nike’s opinion didn’t matter.

You’re misreading the exchange.

Legitimate question. What has Nike acomlished in game? Not saying this as a jest or an insult but an actual question. I’ve played since beta and all I know of Nike is he is one of the main warriors in dnt. I know dnt makes the meta builds. I have never run with then and have no clue what they have actually done in game. Maybe people should consider that there are people who don’t know Nike or anyone in in dnt so saying that you have acomlished things means nothing to them

I have no idea, I only know who he is from posts here and I don’t even know who dnt is (I don’t follow those things).

I’d agree with what you’re saying if Nike said what he said, unprovoked and in response to someone who was expressing an opinion contrary to his own. But that’s not what happened.

One guy was being a troll, Nike engaged him (more gently than I probably would have, tbh), and another guy said Nike’s opinion didn’t matter despite his guild tag. Nike defending himself and rightly asserting his opinion matters seems reasonable to me, regardless of what Nike’s done or hasn’t done.

I’m not sure why you’re additionally reading into it, “…and therefore nobody’s opinion but mine (Nike’s) matters”, because I don’t see that there at all. Neither of the people he was talking to expressed an opinion beyond, 1. “condi warrior sux” and 2. “u (Nike) sux”.

Valik Shin.9027:

Maybe people should consider that there are people who don’t know Nike or anyone in in dnt so saying that you have acomlished things means nothing to them

Who cares who knows me or knows my guild or not? The OP asked a question and I answered it. I didn’t put anybody down. I didn’t say “this is the only answer that matters the rest are rubbish.” The OP, and whoever else is interested, can look at all the responses and judge for themselves.

This thread is getting derailed its not even helpful anymore. You guys just killed condi build.

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

Yes they are, applying 25+ stacks of bleed takes a while, raw zerker damage is the new meta.

Well here we have it boys!

Finally, after three years…

Zerker raw damage is the NEW meta.

Purple Miku.7032:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

Yes they are, applying 25+ stacks of bleed takes a while, raw zerker damage is the new meta.

Well here we have it boys!

Finally, after three years…

Zerker raw damage is the NEW meta.

Indeed, we learned a lot of astonishing things here!

1) Zerker is the NEW meta.

2) Nike is allegedly not a good source of information on the Warrior meta despite being largely responsible for the information on the Warrior (and other) meta, and should disregarded (?!?).

3) Condi Warriors must be kicked from groups despite them doing superior DPS and providing superior utility to the full-on meta builds for a number of other classes. Apparently dirty facts and filthy realities shouldn’t get in the way of kicking people on general principle!

I feel like I’m in some sort of Soviet Communist Party meeting in like, 1926.

Purple Miku.7032:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

Yes they are, applying 25+ stacks of bleed takes a while, raw zerker damage is the new meta.

Well here we have it boys!

Finally, after three years…

Zerker raw damage is the NEW meta.

Aw snap! Does that mean I have to gear up in pure zerk instead of apothecary?!?
New meta guys, you heard it here first.

On a more serious note, from someone who doesn’t do dungeons but fractal 50 on a daily basis:

There are -in my opinion- two problems with condi warrior, at least in fract 40+:
1) Most fractal groups in the lfg tool advertise for: 1war 2ele 1guard and either mesmer or thief. The warrior position is in almost every case explicitly specified as PS and if not, you are asked whether you are PS.

2) By not playing PS you are expecting 4 other players to play around your decision to use a build with less team synergy (no guaranteed 25 perma might). I know that 2 eles could do that too in theory but you wouldn’t believe what I’ve seen, even on lvl 50.
Every class in the above 5 player setup has its role to play and together they work incerdibly well. By replacing one of them with a condi war you are kind of dragging your team down and making the game harder for 4 others just so you can enjoy yourself seems a bit selfish (your opinion may differ).

On the other hand, the sole reason I do fractals in the first place is so I can switch the dropped armor boxes for sinister stats to play condi war myself.
Only solo though.

Could I get away with just trained warhorn? My least favorite condi removal option would probably be defense for cleansing ire since I feel that arms/tactics/discipline make up the backbone of the warrior condi build.

Yeah. If you are comfortable soloing in Silver Wastes, Season 2 is about the same. It is a lot more condition damage than we have seen previously. Runes to remove conditions, war horn traited, using mending, use the endurance/clear condition signet… any of that stuff works. I wasn’t trying to imply that you ‘need’ soldier runes to do the content; it’s just one way to do it.

Having a plan to deal with conditions is important though. Blinding, blocking, dodging and curing conditions are just more valuable if you want to ‘feel tough’ or be ‘tanky’. If anything, there are a lot of cases where it’s dodge the red outlines or go down; it feels a bit over used to me (and it reduces the value of toughness/vitality.)

Cortano.5419:

Could I get away with just trained warhorn? My least favorite condi removal option would probably be defense for cleansing ire since I feel that arms/tactics/discipline make up the backbone of the warrior condi build.

Yeah. If you are comfortable soloing in Silver Wastes, Season 2 is about the same. It is a lot more condition damage than we have seen previously. Runes to remove conditions, war horn traited, using mending, use the endurance/clear condition signet… any of that stuff works. I wasn’t trying to imply that you ‘need’ soldier runes to do the content; it’s just one way to do it.

Having a plan to deal with conditions is important though. Blinding, blocking, dodging and curing conditions are just more valuable if you want to ‘feel tough’ or be ‘tanky’. If anything, there are a lot of cases where it’s dodge the red outlines or go down; it feels a bit over used to me (and it reduces the value of toughness/vitality.)

+1 i’m feeling exactly the same thing in battle, even tough i have 3400 armor and 28 000 hp i’m still being one shot a lot against mordems… but this is another thread :p

Anything I have to say in this thread would get me banned. Here is nice way of putting it. Cut NIKE some slack. Also all of you Flavor of the month players please leave. Lastly Don’t compare pugs groups to pro vet groups. If you want a leet group go make one.

I was playing with cond warrior s/s + longbow and i noticed a bug: your burst skill recharges instantly when you swap weapons, so i could use flurry then combustive shot right after it. I just had to use signet of fury and the healing skill to get adrenaline back.

i noticed a bug

The F1 skills are each on their own timers; the cooldown on sword is independent of bow.