Guild Wars 2

Soo…….
The “Buff” Patch is here.

We get a small pve buff. (around 25% more dmg and perma regen on phalanx)

Double Axe is still useless ( Less dmg and critchance)

Condi Warrior seems ok.

But why do we nerf WvW Warrior again?
Why the Warhorn a nerf?
The Warhorn and the Battle Standard is the only reason Warriors are usefull in WvW.

Now other classes have more CC / Blasts / Heal / Dmg / Condi Removal.

Revenant has triple Blast.
Ingi gets 4 Blast in one skill.
Ele get perma Ice Aura+ Fury for the Party.
… … …

I can live with the Condi Convert nerf on the Warhorn but no longer 10 Targets?
COME ON!!!

And the other classes get big buffs but warrior? Nope.
I think warrior will be as strong after the patch as he should be now. (before the patch)

Ok…. I am a Main Warrior in WvW for nearly 3 years now.
I have seen many nerfs. Now, before the patch, the warrior is on the last edge of usefullnes in WvW.

And this “Balance Patch” is the K.O hit.

R.I.P WvW Warrior and HALLO frontline DD Ele!

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

KhainPride.3987:

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

And why should we play this?
Dmg? Nope. Guard do better.
CC? Nope. Guard do better.
Heal? Ingi will do better =0
Condi Heal? ….. Guard will the do the Job just fine.

I dont say the Warrior is unplayable but we need a reason for using one.

flurry + well bombs ( i wonder if you know what this means, no offense im here to help)

banners

aoe heals to our party members, enough to sustain throughout big long battles

If you do not belong to organized groups, u SHOULD NOT be using this build or the meta of now for wvw zergs for warriors.

If you do not belong to organized groups then you should be running something like zerkers gears along with gs + rifle or gs + axe/shield or even gs + hammer and be part of the sidelines and dont even think of being in front lines. Basically use whatever you want but dont be in frontlines to be a rally bot.

If i pug along with a zerg, i will run gs/rifle or gs hammer or gs axe shield or even gs longbow

I will probably use 6/0/6/0/6 with
x,gs mastery, berserker power
rousing resilience, defy pain and dogged march
warrior sprint(+ immobilize removal for ratwells), brawler recovery and heighten focus
balance stance + endure pain and dolyak signet

DanAlcedo.3281:

KhainPride.3987:

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

And why should we play this?
Dmg? Nope. Guard do better.
CC? Nope. Guard do better.
Heal? Ingi will do better =0
Condi Heal? ….. Guard will the do the Job just fine.

I dont say the Warrior is unplayable but we need a reason for using one.

So what would replace the Warrior Battle Standard that suddenly make the primary reason they are even brought to a zerg redundant?

Mesmers Illusion of Life?

Hahahahaa…

My sense of humour just died from overload.

I dont use banner traits for my battle standard, t’was only in pve

I hope they just add the – cool down and radius increase in the healing banner trait, Ill def take it over DoE

DanAlcedo.3281:

KhainPride.3987:

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

And why should we play this?
Dmg? Nope. Guard do better.
CC? Nope. Guard do better.
Heal? Ingi will do better =0
Condi Heal? ….. Guard will the do the Job just fine.

I dont say the Warrior is unplayable but we need a reason for using one.

Melee Carry. Look up Faceless Void from DOTA2. Except a more reasonable one. And shoutbow is still going to be pretty annoying.

While the changes are boring and uninnovative, Warrior can still have a place as a DPS and a support.

Wish baseline fast hands would happen though when the elite specs come out. Every class will get crazy power creep at that point anyways, specially the reset on Mesmer and more evade frame-eater on Guardian? Baseline fast hands should happen at that point.

I may run a 06606 build with sword/shield and bow on swap. I like the combined shield skills (reflect and lower CD) and the sword skills with the condi changes should provide decent damage.

This may not be ideal for groups but it should be a good solo roamer and at least it’s a slight change from shoutbow.

I have Level 80 guard and warrior and let me say, despite all the crying on here, Warriors did not get as kittened as guards did. Lets just say between the two, I will be maining warrior still.
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Unless of course i roll an Engie since they are Anet’s little darlings.

“I have Level 80 guard and warrior and let me say, despite all the crying on here, Warriors did not get as kittened as guards did. Lets just say between the two, I will be maining warrior still.
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Unless of course i roll an Engie since they are Anet’s little darlings.”

I completely agree here Spartacus, I had to drop my main (guardian) also and go to warrior awhile back, and between the two warrior is still better and I will continue to main that for the time being. Guards got really owned this patch. Man, and classes like mesmer who got buffed to the point they aren’t even worth fighting against anymore when they didn’t even need these changes.

KhainPride.3987:

flurry + well bombs ( i wonder if you know what this means, no offense im here to help)

banners

aoe heals to our party members, enough to sustain throughout big long battles

If you do not belong to organized groups, u SHOULD NOT be using this build or the meta of now for wvw zergs for warriors.

If you do not belong to organized groups then you should be running something like zerkers gears along with gs + rifle or gs + axe/shield or even gs + hammer and be part of the sidelines and dont even think of being in front lines. Basically use whatever you want but dont be in frontlines to be a rally bot.

If i pug along with a zerg, i will run gs/rifle or gs hammer or gs axe shield or even gs longbow

I will probably use 6/0/6/0/6 with
x,gs mastery, berserker power
rousing resilience, defy pain and dogged march
warrior sprint(+ immobilize removal for ratwells), brawler recovery and heighten focus
balance stance + endure pain and dolyak signet

well yes i know Flurry + Wells Bombs ( Im a WvW Guild Warrior for years xD )
but thing about it guard has rings and walls.

Dawdler.8521:

DanAlcedo.3281:

KhainPride.3987:

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

And why should we play this?
Dmg? Nope. Guard do better.
CC? Nope. Guard do better.
Heal? Ingi will do better =0
Condi Heal? ….. Guard will the do the Job just fine.

I dont say the Warrior is unplayable but we need a reason for using one.

So what would replace the Warrior Battle Standard that suddenly make the primary reason they are even brought to a zerg redundant?

Mesmers Illusion of Life?

Hahahahaa…

My sense of humour just died from overload.

Just one word : Poisen.

Good Guild use Poison on downstate what means you need TWO banner do up them.
And also good guild kill the downstate in the 2 second cast time.
AND some guilds even interupt Warriors that use Banners.

KhainPride.3987:

I dont use banner traits for my battle standard, t’was only in pve

I hope they just add the – cool down and radius increase in the healing banner trait, Ill def take it over DoE

Pls no Banner in WvW xD (im only here to talk about WvW)

BlackTruth.6813:

DanAlcedo.3281:

KhainPride.3987:

00666 new wvw zerg build in organized groups

Sword/wh + hammer

cull the weak + defy pain + cleansing ire
Quick Breathing + empower allies + vigorous focus
Vengeful return +DoE + Merciless hammer

And why should we play this?
Dmg? Nope. Guard do better.
CC? Nope. Guard do better.
Heal? Ingi will do better =0
Condi Heal? ….. Guard will the do the Job just fine.

I dont say the Warrior is unplayable but we need a reason for using one.

Melee Carry. Look up Faceless Void from DOTA2. Except a more reasonable one. And shoutbow is still going to be pretty annoying.

While the changes are boring and uninnovative, Warrior can still have a place as a DPS and a support.

Wish baseline fast hands would happen though when the elite specs come out. Every class will get crazy power creep at that point anyways, specially the reset on Mesmer and more evade frame-eater on Guardian? Baseline fast hands should happen at that point.

That´s right he has a place. BUT in reality …. Warrior gets more and more outclassed.

My Guild was allready reducing the number of warrior in the Guild Zerg and after the Patch even more to 2-3 at 25-30 Player.

DanAlcedo.3281:

Pls no Banner in WvW xD (im only here to talk about WvW)

lol im from wvw too and i play only in wvw… I havent done a world boss in pve for long time……………

I guess you dont use battle standard in zergs, I dont either when im in a pug zerg.

I also never throw my banners for my guild mates if they are poisoned. I tell them in team speak “g’day mate”.

Spartacus.3192:

I have Level 80 guard and warrior and let me say, despite all the crying on here, Warriors did not get as kittened as guards did. Lets just say between the two, I will be maining warrior still.
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Really? Poor fellas… I was just starting to think their days as a one dimensional Inferiorbot were over. Why they gotta kick a brother when he was just getting up?

YOU’RE TEARING ME APART, ANET! Oh, hi Mark.

Did they change their mind on the Healing Signet passive nerf? I don’t see any change for Healing Signet listed anywhere.

I admit I wouldn’t mind to keep the Healing Signet passive, especially if poison is going to stack…

Bearhugger.4326:

Did they change their mind on the Healing Signet passive nerf? I don’t see any change for Healing Signet listed anywhere.

I admit I wouldn’t mind to keep the Healing Signet passive, especially if poison is going to stack…

you dun get free 200, 250 or 300 healing power from defense trait line anymore.
our healing signet will only heal for the bare minimum amount.

a small nerf.

Bearhugger.4326:

Did they change their mind on the Healing Signet passive nerf? I don’t see any change for Healing Signet listed anywhere.

I admit I wouldn’t mind to keep the Healing Signet passive, especially if poison is going to stack…

Poison will have higher damage potential (in condi builds) but lower uptime. If anything, it is a nerf to the healing reduction part.