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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

1) All movement skills (Rush, bull’s rush, shield bash etc ) over shoot their target by up to 300 units now.

2) Lose all adrenaline on miss. In theory sounds fair. That is of course until a passive proc of shared anguish, necro runes etc kicks in and you lose it all with no cue to know that was waiting under the hood.

3) Evade on use skills that have been spammed, when someone else without co-ordination use’s point blank shot or fear etc on your target from range causes you to miss your burst. Go straight to jail. Do not pass go. Do not receive $200. Losing all adreanline when i get the evaded or blocked prompted i can understand, but 100% lose on miss which may/may not be out of your control (not to mention latency)?

4) Greatsword, the most under used warrior weapon in PvP is given a nice clean f1, but damage lowered for unknown reasons, and as stated above it’s movement skills now habitually over shoot.

5) Axe revamp underwhelming, disappointing and without much designed purpose apart from whirl and damage, whirl and damage.

6) Adrenaline easily manipulated now by opponents. If they can’t challenge the point, wonder off for 15 seconds and come back.

Each weapon should have it’s own specific adrenaline coefficient. Axe being high melee should gain adrenaline fast, but also lose it fast. Mace being a defensive, single target control should gain moderately and lose moderately. Hammer being high control vs single target and group should gain more slowly and lose more slowly. The blanket rule of thumb of each weapon is affected the same regardless that each weapon has it’s own specific uses kinda illustrates a universal mechanic law isn’t doing any weapon justice.

The ability to do what warrior does, and make impact is all but gone in PvE. When charging the hammer in cliff side fractal and I gain all adrenaline only when the trash mobs are dead and then lose it all gain before the next ones spawn, even though I can see them just off screen makes warrior underwhelming. No might fields for team mates to make use. No opening burst mechanic to soften target. I am essentially just the US in world war 2. I enter at the end once everyone else has soften everything up. Imagine the impact or how different it all could have been if their entry was earlier? Just like that example, I am nothing more than 2 big bombs at the end on a opponent that is already defeated and morally shattered.

I agreed readily with the changes on paper. I felt it would sort the wheat from the chaff in the warrior community. However how they have been practically applied is less than desirable. A balance patch on paper should be to even the playing field while making each profession retain their unique play style. It should follow the principles of all good design. 1)Form follows function and it looks like what it is. 2) Nice to use and intuitive 3) creates a nice platform for future development.

Warrior has for the last year epitomized this. They look like what they are. Their form followed their function. They were nice to use and intuitive. Without reading walls of text and theory crafting and watching tutorials a player could pick up a warrior and after some immersion time understand them easily just by using them.

It is said music is the highest expression of communication. I give to you this song.

You were as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar in Pvp
When I buffed you
I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around
Turned you into someone new

Now one year later on you’ve got the world at your feet
Being hated by every other player has been so easy for you
But don’t forget, it’s me who put you where you are now
And I can do the same for ranger too.

Don’t, buff than nerf me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that you have planned something exciting for me

Don’t, don’t buff than nerf me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that these balances will fix me

It’s much too late to find
Is it too much for you to try
Your changes to warrior before,.. they,.. go,.. live!

Don’t you want me in tpvp, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?
Don’t you want me, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?

I was about as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar
That much is true
But even then I knew I’d find a much better place in PvE
Either with or without you

The one year we have had have been such good times
I will still try to play you
But now I think it’s time I live my life on my mesmer
I guess it’s just what I must do

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that longbow was balanced fairly

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that ranger is now better than me

It’s much too late to find
When you think you’ve changed your mind
You’d better change it back because 90% of people have dropped me

PvP, don’t you want me, baby?

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

You were as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar in Pvp
When I buffed you
I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around
Turned you into someone new

Now one year later on you’ve got the world at your feet
Being hated by every other player has been so easy for you
But don’t forget, it’s me who put you where you are now
And I can do the same for ranger too.

Don’t, buff than nerf me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that you have planned something exciting for me

Don’t, don’t buff than nerf me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that these balances will fix me

It’s much too late to find
Is it too much for you to try
Your changes to warrior before,.. they,.. go,.. live!

Don’t you want me in tpvp, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?
Don’t you want me, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?

I was about as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar
That much is true
But even then I knew I’d find a much better place in PvE
Either with or without you

The one year we have had have been such good times
I will still try to play you
But now I think it’s time I live my life on my mesmer
I guess it’s just what I must do

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that longbow was balanced fairly

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that ranger is now better than me

It’s much too late to find
When you think you’ve changed your mind
You’d better change it back because 90% of people have dropped me

PvP, don’t you want me, baby?

What the kitten did you smoke and can I have some?

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Posted by: bobomb.5209

bobomb.5209

He is high on the disappointment of life. QQ

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

Melee set warrior’s depend upon their gap closer’s/leap closer’s to be accurate to be effective. When they carry high failure rates it promotes longbow as a more secure reliable offhand weapon selection. This ultimately can be seen already in warrior and ultimately narrows their build variety.

The unique mechanic of warrior being adrenaline feeds multiple aspects of warrior from damage increase to healing. The changes in principle were good, that burst skills carry a reward/risk assessment in their use. However with the damage being lowered in previous patches with burst mastery reduced etc the balancing act of risk/reward has been diminished somewhat. Currently spam play, or even just a roamer in broken play knocking back your target etc can result in warrior losing their unique mechanic for trivial reasons. This ultimately creates moderate reward/ high risk situations. You can lose your entire mechanic because of this, but if you hit it, it doesn’t deliver the high reward feel.

Warrior is currently playable..much like mild lag is playable and some people will insist on playing with broken toys for sentimental reasons. However there is just too many short stops in warrior now. All adrenaline gain is universal despite the weapon, and all loss is universal despite the circumstances. Too many traits have been diminished and specific play styles enforced because of sake of ease reasons.

Warrior could have it a lot better and the last changes be effective for them if the general house work of their coding is given a tidy up. An evade or block or immunity is a lose of adrenaline. A straight miss is punishable, but because of above stated reasons it shouldn’t be 100% of all adrenaline. The movement/gap closer’s is really the biggest issue, they need to be accurate and form follows function. Lastly the recent patch is, unto itself a nice overall balance and justifies the reversal of ‘some’ previous nerfs that were trying to achieve what the last patch was hoping for. The same can be seen with necro. So many little nerf’s and then finally the big nerf to balance them which made the earlier minor ones unnecessary.

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Posted by: Gamgee.8612

Gamgee.8612

I’m a supporter to the nerf but I have to admit that it has nerfed several weapons more than some. In WvW it doesn’t really make a difference. But in PvP and PvE there’s a much bigger difference. Even then I say it was the right thing to do, but they need to rework it.

How come every weapon over shoots now? I know it does and I have it, but it’s the worst thing that came with this patch. Also when using the sword leap anyway, at the end of the animation you sometimes turn around for no reason, like if you have a target back there. Awful for escaping blobs. That bug(I have to assume) has made me die many more times than the adrenal nerf!

Thanks for the song Ctrl.

N I M S – Warrior of Judge Legends[JDGE]

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

You were as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar in Pvp
When I buffed you
I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around
Turned you into someone new

Now one year later on you’ve got the world at your feet
Being hated by every other player has been so easy for you
But don’t forget, it’s me who put you where you are now
And I can do the same for ranger too.

Don’t, buff than nerf me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that you have planned something exciting for me

Don’t, don’t buff than nerf me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that these balances will fix me

It’s much too late to find
Is it too much for you to try
Your changes to warrior before,.. they,.. go,.. live!

Don’t you want me in tpvp, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?
Don’t you want me, baby?
Don’t you want me, ohh?

I was about as useful as a waitress in a kittentail bar
That much is true
But even then I knew I’d find a much better place in PvE
Either with or without you

The one year we have had have been such good times
I will still try to play you
But now I think it’s time I live my life on my mesmer
I guess it’s just what I must do

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I can’t believe it
When I hear that longbow was balanced fairly

PvP, don’t you want me?
You know I don’t believe you
When you say that ranger is now better than me

It’s much too late to find
When you think you’ve changed your mind
You’d better change it back because 90% of people have dropped me

PvP, don’t you want me, baby?

What the kitten did you smoke and can I have some?

10/10

Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.