Guild Wars 2

Hi Berserkers!

I had felt really upset when the adrenal health healing buff was introduced for Berserkers because it made them so so strong that my Reaper had no chance.

But I’ve since tuned my playstyle and managed to win more and more fights against Berserkers.

I did a video of a fight below against a BG server’s QQ guild berserker with the legendary division PvP season 2 title.

I just wanted to know if I did well enough during the fight to say that I have a decent playstyle against Berserkers or was the Berserker making too many mistakes? She isn’t bad I feel, she came back later and destroyed me.

That guy was absolute garbo. Sorry. Necros of any build/makeup should be fodder and a free bag for a zerk.

You effectively used your fear to keep him from landing a burst for the entire fight, and not landing those bursts really hurt his sustain due to AH (as you noted). His damage output is also especially concentrated in his Primal State, so your fearing had the benefit of limiting his damage pressure too.

But just one skill would have completely turned the tables: Berserker Stance

If he’d used it, none of your fears would have touched him, he’d have had more opportunities to land bursts to gain sustain, his damage output would have been much higher, and your damage would have been cut right down.

So the general theory is right, but the person you were up against had so many tools he could have used to foil you, but didn’t use them. Beyond Berserker Stance, warriors have huge access to stability and stunbreaks (to mitigate your fear), and he could have used his Healing Signet active for a clutch burst.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Hi Berserkers!

I had felt really upset when the adrenal health healing buff was introduced for Berserkers because it made them so so strong that my Reaper had no chance.

But I’ve since tuned my playstyle and managed to win more and more fights against Berserkers.

I did a video of a fight below against a BG server’s QQ guild berserker with the legendary division PvP season 2 title.

I just wanted to know if I did well enough during the fight to say that I have a decent playstyle against Berserkers or was the Berserker making too many mistakes? She isn’t bad I feel, she came back later and destroyed me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRig2--QokM

If you want to duel a better warrior wisper me in game, if you lost to this warrior than GG that warrior is pretty bad.

She was just bad or wasn’t specced to fight vs high cc and condis at that point. Just slotting Eternal champion for stab on zerk mode would’ve made things easier for them.

And was it just me or did they not have cleanse on weapon swap either?

You’ll probably do fine against new zerk players or some who has their traits and utilities setup to kill NPCs in a zerg, but you’ll get torn apart by people who have figured out what tools the warrior has for a situation.

Furajir.3815:

That guy was absolute garbo. Sorry. Necros of any build/makeup should be fodder and a free bag for a zerk.

Hmm…that is a little extreme…then which class will put up a fight against a berserker this patch?

Choppy.4183:

You effectively used your fear to keep him from landing a burst for the entire fight, and not landing those bursts really hurt his sustain due to AH (as you noted). His damage output is also especially concentrated in his Primal State, so your fearing had the benefit of limiting his damage pressure too.

But just one skill would have completely turned the tables: Berserker Stance

If he’d used it, none of your fears would have touched him, he’d have had more opportunities to land bursts to gain sustain, his damage output would have been much higher, and your damage would have been cut right down.

So the general theory is right, but the person you were up against had so many tools he could have used to foil you, but didn’t use them. Beyond Berserker Stance, warriors have huge access to stability and stunbreaks (to mitigate your fear), and he could have used his Healing Signet active for a clutch burst.

Thanks for the thoughts! I thought perhaps he didnt have an optimum build to fight me too. But thats what i like about roaming. Trying to find one build to handle most fights!

Warlord.9074:

EremiteAngel.9765:

Hi Berserkers!

I had felt really upset when the adrenal health healing buff was introduced for Berserkers because it made them so so strong that my Reaper had no chance.

But I’ve since tuned my playstyle and managed to win more and more fights against Berserkers.

I did a video of a fight below against a BG server’s QQ guild berserker with the legendary division PvP season 2 title.

I just wanted to know if I did well enough during the fight to say that I have a decent playstyle against Berserkers or was the Berserker making too many mistakes? She isn’t bad I feel, she came back later and destroyed me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRig2--QokM

If you want to duel a better warrior wisper me in game, if you lost to this warrior than GG that warrior is pretty bad.

I dont think she is bad cause she came back and destroyed me later. Perhaps like others were saying, she was not built to handle me in the fight.

My own experience though was that many berzerkers lose to me the first time but come back and destroyed me in the next few encounters.

Mayb they changed their build or their playatyle to counter mine

Ubik.8315:

She was just bad or wasn’t specced to fight vs high cc and condis at that point. Just slotting Eternal champion for stab on zerk mode would’ve made things easier for them.

And was it just me or did they not have cleanse on weapon swap either?

You’ll probably do fine against new zerk players or some who has their traits and utilities setup to kill NPCs in a zerg, but you’ll get torn apart by people who have figured out what tools the warrior has for a situation.

True but thats why i prefer roaming encounters =D
U run around with a build not knowing who u will end up fighting. Which is more fun than a duel where u build to counter ur enemy.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Thanks for the thoughts! I thought perhaps he didnt have an optimum build to fight me too. But thats what i like about roaming. Trying to find one build to handle most fights!

Happy to help. As to best tools a Reaper has against most Berserkers, I’d say chill. Provided you can kite/dodge when he uses Berserker Stance (gives pulsing resistance), then your chills will do awful things to him (keep him from landing bursts (sustain) and generally doing damage to you)

He’ll still have some clears, but on a condi Reaper you’ll have lots of reapplication and cover conditions to drown out those clears. It won’t be an easy fight if the Berserker is competent, but I personally wouldn’t call you an easy bag if you deny his close.

Choppy.4183:

EremiteAngel.9765:

Thanks for the thoughts! I thought perhaps he didnt have an optimum build to fight me too. But thats what i like about roaming. Trying to find one build to handle most fights!

Happy to help. As to best tools a Reaper has against most Berserkers, I’d say chill. Provided you can kite/dodge when he uses Berserker Stance (gives pulsing resistance), then your chills will do awful things to him (keep him from landing bursts (sustain) and generally doing damage to you)

He’ll still have some clears, but on a condi Reaper you’ll have lots of reapplication and cover conditions to drown out those clears. It won’t be an easy fight if the Berserker is competent, but I personally wouldn’t call you an easy bag if you deny his close.

nods nods

On a separate note:

Sometimes when I re-watch my videos and fights against other opponents like in this fight, I often ask myself: did he perform badly because of his build, his skills, or my playstyle? Did he perform badly because he was bad or did he look bad because I happened to do the right things in the fight?

Frankly if I were to watch this for the first time like all of you with no background, I would say he was a terrible warrior too. I did get confirmation at the WvW forum from two of his guildmates that he is one of the best roaming warriors in the game though.

I feel possibly it was his build and my playstyle. He didnt attempt a single burst until the end when he connected with his GS burst because i felt i didn’t give him much chance to do so. I was always just out of reach when he was primed to activate his burst. Even the last GS burst that connected, i could have avoided but accidentally opened my guild panel and didn’t manage to leap away in time.

Most of my fight videos I chose to show opponents that have beaten me before so I know that they were at least close to or better than me and I managed to best them in a fight or two.

This warrior destroyed me when we next fought so honestly, I would say he isn’t bad at all. Maybe he was just using the wrong build, not concentrating as much, or just not used to fighting a Reaper with my build/playstyle.

Oh and to add, I think he did use berserker stance. Towards the end of the fight at the 1min 31 sec mark he popped it.

Not really extreme, guy was terribad. Not a necro in this game that should be able to beat a well played zerk.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Oh and to add, I think he did use berserker stance. Towards the end of the fight at the 1min 31 sec mark he popped it.

You’re right, but that actually tips him toward the “playing really badly” camp. Before this, I’d just assumed he didn’t have it equipped for some reason (which would be weird for a warrior, especially when fighting a reaper).

First, if he’d used that at the beginning, he could have ignored everything you did while forcing you to blow every defense you had, if not killing you outright. Second, he started running from you after he finally did use it, which is weird. That should have been the moment he unloaded everything he had into you, but he spent most of the time running and even used a shield block while it was up.

Even the best players will make bad decisions from time to time, and you caught his on a video. But it was a total rookie mistake, for sure.

There is a reason why the old ruling Warriors die twice is t a thing. Aside from it being a joke on the warriors Down State Skills, warriors typically don’t go full defensive in a fight. Typically we push HARDER and jump in balls deep, because everything in our kitten nal gives us the best chance to survive if we do that. Balanced stance would have given that warrior 12 seconds to pound on you, and while that may not have killed you outright, it would have given him AH, forced you to blow defensive powers, and of course given his other abilities time to refresh.

Another thing to note about that warrior is that he remained on each weapon way too long. Against a condi necro, doing that canceled all of his condi cleanse, becase he could not land a burst to cleanse, and was not clearing a condi on weapon swap effectively.

I’m more inclined to believe that the reason he beat you the second time around was because he realized what he did wrong and corrected his mistakes, either that or he caught you with your skills and traits passives on cool down, making his job easier.