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Posted by: Feral.3609

Feral.3609

Hey guys, I’m Ridun – I’ve been warrior main for the past 3 years. I’ve decided to post my build because I’ve been finding great success with it and have had quite a number of people as for it. I’ll post a direct link to a build editor as well as my variation and gear spread for WvW. I hope you find as much success with it as I have, if enough people would like I can record and post videos of how it’s played and how to 1vX on it.

Conquest: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhAmkCElilrADJAkASdvj2U7rVJH06aBA-TpBCQBEc/hLcQA6WZgM8AAwwFAAAHBAA

With this setup every time you stunbreak you’ll heal for 3690 health (1136 aoe heal), gain 3 stacks of might, 1 stack of stability, an extra 1000 toughness, among other things. Reasoning for heightened focus over burst mastery: I find the ability to land more hits greater than the extra 7% damage given that we’ve chosen knights over zerker or paladins. The damage is still great and this level of toughness definitely helps against some of the more burstier builds floating around recently. Just like the old days I still prefer toughness over vitality stacking on warrior and with that smaller health pool I feel the heals from your stun break are more beneficial. You can still manage conditions through proper use of signet/berserker stance, weapon swapping; and now have the addition of activating berserker mode for an extra stunbreak/2x cleanse. Keep in mind to, that getting feared, you can activate berserker mode, headbutt, or weapon swap to activate your burst heal + other things over using berserker stance – take advantage of your stun breaks!

My WvW Version: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhAmkCciglrA7d0maftIBgEQqTJH06aBA-TVyHABAcQAqe/BBuAA+p+DTKB9S3Q8HBgeU+FwDAIAACwNvZ2sNDG6QH6QH6553+2m38m3sUAmp1C-w

You can choose to ignore the infusions (that’s currently my setup due to my ghostly infusions and I use those trinkets on my zerker build to reach 2701 power exactly) which would obviously be quite costly for the majority of players. Again, the reason I go with knights outside of the toughness is on any power build for warrior I find my personal sweet spot to be 48% crit chance as the very minimum. Different thing here, instead of paralyzation I use sigil of draining for even extra heals. A little bit of playstyle difference occurs with the change in runes as you can use your blocks to stack regeneration. There’s a lot of passive heals in here that’ll help you sustain. Note: the reflect doesn’t proc the regen but it’s still worth keeping, you can still get the block procs against range if you block right up in the enemies face.

I’m open to critique, as I’m sure I’ll get but before knocking down my build PLEASE, try it for yourself – you may be pleasantly surprised.

Cheers,

Feel free to message me in game as well at Feral.3609 or character name: Ridun

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Posted by: scottb.8769

scottb.8769

Dueled him in a 1v1 as warrior with rampage for elite skill, and normally with that cooldown i can burn anything that isnt trying to run without much problem… he had some of the best defenses ive seen in another player, always blocking, immune to knockdowns, and lots of healing , while still doing solid damage to me… eventually burning me down while he maintained 50% or above hp. definitely worth checking out, i definitely am going to.

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

infinityandbeyond.9652

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

infinityandbeyond.9652

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

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Posted by: scottb.8769

scottb.8769

haha, children… cmon now. im not a big forum guy, only came here to help a friend with an outside perspective, and read about his build. u guys can come check me out, got like 300 hours dumped into my warrior ^^

annnnyways, vid should be comin soon so u can shut up about smurfs and actually check the build out

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

infinityandbeyond.9652

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

Indeed. Hey Obindo, do you think they will ever fix Warrior ? Have you tried Rev yet ?

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

haha, children… cmon now. im not a big forum guy, only came here to help a friend with an outside perspective, and read about his build. u guys can come check me out, got like 300 hours dumped into my warrior ^^

annnnyways, vid should be comin soon so u can shut up about smurfs and actually check the build out

“Vid coming soon”
You said that with wrong account

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

Indeed. Hey Obindo, do you think they will ever fix Warrior ? Have you tried Rev yet ?

I stay loyal to warrior, not tried rev. I can only hope that the reason we’ve not gotten something yet is bcuz they work on something bigger that take longer time to do right; redesign or something.

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

infinityandbeyond.9652

Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

Indeed. Hey Obindo, do you think they will ever fix Warrior ? Have you tried Rev yet ?

I stay loyal to warrior, not tried rev. I can only hope that the reason we’ve not gotten something yet is bcuz they work on something bigger that take longer time to do right; redesign or something.

Me too, me too. Let’s pray to the balance gods ( or should i say devils ? :P ). I’m too lazy to level a Rev and learn to play it well.

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Posted by: Feral.3609

Feral.3609

It was very nice of Scott to say what he did. Unfortunately it seems to have sparked some paranoia. I’m posting this not to showcase any skills but so that people can take a look at the build rather than attempting to discredit me. Thank you Scott for both your words and participating in this video. https://youtu.be/RU74Tah1Xoo

For the rest of you, if you choose to watch this please don’t take this as an idea of what the build is capable of, it was just to show that I’m not running multiple accounts. Truthfully I didn’t even know Scott before today, so these claims are pretty laughable from our perspective. Enjoy

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Posted by: scottb.8769

scottb.8769

(“Vid coming soon”
You said that with wrong account) -Obindo.6802

i was IN the video. u guys can pick apart anything =P

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Obindo.6802

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Posted by: Cerby.1069

Cerby.1069

Dat pic is too cute for this thread.

haha, children… cmon now. im not a big forum guy, only came here to help a friend with an outside perspective, and read about his build. u guys can come check me out, got like 300 hours dumped into my warrior ^^

annnnyways, vid should be comin soon so u can shut up about smurfs and actually check the build out

This….just says you intentionally came here ahead of time to endorse his post and make his builds sound better than they might actually be. I don’t understand why you would post this if you are trying to prove you aren’t just talking kitten.

I mean if the OP really has no connection to you, you aren’t doing him any favours at this point…and in such a case I feel bad for the OP.

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Posted by: scottb.8769

scottb.8769

so basically because i try to give an outside perspective of what its like to fight him, the build is invalid??? Cerby, i came here to READ it so i could learn more about it, and decided to try to give it a bump…

you guys… the point was, as a warrior using rampage, i can usually mash 1-5 and destroy mostly anyone i see in conquest. my point was that he had superior defensese, while still being able to deal heavy damage to me.

my apologies to ridun, i didn’t mean for all this… I was trying to be helpful

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Posted by: MandJ.8965

MandJ.8965

Dont feel bad scottb, too many guys here are too afraid that someone will show up with a build which is good and better than theirs.
You guys should feel bad to give him no critique or something thankful for sharing his thoughts.
instead of it you pro warriors smash someone and be like you are the bests. Yea, nice. Talking bs against others but being freekills when facing you guys in wvw/spvp

Thanks for the build

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

Dont feel bad scottb, too many guys here are too afraid that someone will show up with a build which is good and better than theirs.
You guys should feel bad to give him no critique or something thankful for sharing his thoughts.
instead of it you pro warriors smash someone and be like you are the bests. Yea, nice. Talking bs against others but being freekills when facing you guys in wvw/spvp

Thanks for the build

NA or EU?

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Posted by: VagaMule.1658

VagaMule.1658

I have played someone with a build like this and the sustain is nice.

I watched your video, and the reality is the opposing player did not appear to be much of a challenge and there seemed to be very little consideration for what the others players next move was. Further to that there were a couple of wasted dodges.

That being said the build (taking away the video) looks viable, and id like to see it in a more considered duel, rather than in the rush that one seemed to be, so you can actually appreciate whats the build does.

Maybe consider a video of you duelling someone, and then a video of the other players perspective, so that you can see all the blocks and heals etc.

I can say the build looks viable, but thats all i can say at the moment. If you want to contact me in game for more talks sure, but pm me as this isnt my account name.

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Posted by: angvl.1238

angvl.1238

Its good build but its not his build.
Its good to mention that the traits(wvw) are from cygnus build.
I inspired from this and i made the pvp version days ago..
The tempest runes works very good with this build.
cya and have fun

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Build-3-pvp/first#post5989390

its even stronger if u try it with air+fire on GS and hydro +leeching on mace and shield

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Posted by: Rekt.5360

Rekt.5360

Ok, first why the flip do you take rousing resilience with Eternal champion? You do realize that unless you get chain cc’ed in berserker mode you will not be able to break stuns with outrage and benefit from rousing resilience since the pulsing stability will negate that right? RR + Eternal champion should NEVER be taken together, as the later renders the first nearly useless a good 50% of the time since that’s roughly the amount of berserker mode uptime you’ll have.

I’d also advise to swap that sigil of paralyzation on mace for something else, sigil of para only affects stun duration, not daze, skull grinder only causes daze, making the sigil nearly useless whenever you enter berserker mode. Sigil of para is only great when you land a lv 3 skull crack because then it becomes a 4 seconds stun, which is more than enough to swap to GS and wreck the guy if he has no stun breaks, but my question is how many lv 3 skull crackers will you be using exactly? :/ Not too many I believe since you’ll be using you adrenaline to pop into berserker mode most of the time.

In addition, I’d advise swapping savage instinct for smash brawler, 2 condis cleared and 1 stun break every 15 seconds when you already have outrage, endure pain, and headbutt to break stuns (EP shouldn’t really be used just to break a stun but w/e). I’d get smash brawler for more berserker mode uptime more blinds and more control since you can use skull grinder much more often.

Other than that this build is really good for stalemating on a point if its a 1v1. Fought a guy running some similar stuff on my hammer/gs warr (no rampage) and the fight just never finished, He did terrible dmg to me and had great sustain, eventually a thief from my team came and +1 the fight so he died. I can’t really see this build be great against any of the classes with great sustain, druid can easily sustain against this and bristleback will do the rest, scrapper will just lol with superior dmg and sustain while running a glassier amulet. Condi reaper will destroy this build with poison and chill spam and unblockable staff marks. DH can probably poop on this since it’s double melee. I’m pretty sure thief can wreck this build hard too, especially D/p.

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Posted by: Feral.3609

Feral.3609

@Rekt

Thanks for the response, I’ll try and address my reasoning behind these choices, I know you did sort of hop back and forth between both variants so I’ll try to interpret which version you meant. At first glance taking rousing resilience with eternal champion seems counterintuitive, why use stability with your form of healing? I’ve tested this without and found that without balanced stance, last stand, or dolyak signet the build was very weak to CC. Sure having the 3x stun breaks was nice but not when you’re locked in place by multiple people. Eternal champion allowed me to do things like escaping double gravity well for example or getting chain cc’d by multiple opponents (which can still happen but is significantly easier to manage with this). The upside, the stability you gain on stun break is only 3s with one stack – this prevents getting CC locked (giving enough time to dodge, block, or swap into something more defensive) but also doesn’t make you blow all your stun breaks simply to get out of CC. I find today a lot of the warriors using berserker mode are heading in the direction of spamming skills – using smash brawler, gunflame spam, spamming primal bursts off cooldown – weapon swapping to F1 burst again, etc. My approach to this build and playstyle was treating it very similar to core warrior, need to time and use skills effectively; using the berserker traitline “defensively” rather than just offensively to make up for losing things like forceful greatsword (the cooldown reduction is far more important to me then the damage as whirlwind is available almost immediately after weapon swapping back in GS as one example), last stand, and balanced stance. The overall idea was to increase warrior sustain without hurting the damage so much that it becomes unusable.

Next point sigil of paralyzation. In the WvW version, I take sigil of draining so I’m assuming you’re focusing on the conquest version here (it was still a difficult choice for me to drop the paralyzation sigil for that in WvW – I’m even considering changing back). The sigil of paralyzation stun affects shield bash, headbutt (equal to level 3 skull crack), and non-zerk mode skullcrack. Each of these skills has quite a long stun duration and with paralyzation allows for an even longer time they’d have to sit in things like hundred blades. The next direction I went was to allow for more hits to offset the damage loss from zerker.

For smasher brawler, I think you answered your own question in advance there, you simply don’t gain enough to adrenaline as quickly with other builds to make use of smash brawler; making savage instinct the superior choice (in my opinion) and I would almost never spam outrage just for adrenaline with this build. Again the idea towards this build is not to spam but to play in a similar manner to core warrior.

I’m glad you asked the questions you did because I’ll have to make a video to show these things in action, I’ll post one this coming weekend when I have more time; and yes this build isn’t going to counter everything (I’m not sure there is any build that can do that however) but I found it to be pretty strong for what it is.

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Posted by: Feral.3609

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@ angvl

Sorry if this was similar to your build; looks like we had pretty much the same idea. I’m sure with the thousands of people that play the game there are others who have done the same things also – before us. The build I’ve posted in it’s entirety is simply the way I choose to play, what I’ve created for myself, and what has worked for me. Maybe it’ll work for others as well, you prefer hydro/leech on mace shield, where as I’ve used hydro/leeching on greatsword for a very long time and I have a hard to to go outside of that, I simply just love that combo. The reasoning is the chill keeps an opponent in hundred blades for just enough time to land more hits before needing to interrupt with a whirlwind, you can also weapon swap to apply damage, the leeching allows for additional pressure/healing if only 1 attack from HB were to land; alongside a multitude of other things. It’s my bread and butter sigils for greatsword. :P

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Posted by: Feral.3609

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@ VagaMule

Yeah the video wasn’t really to show any skills or playstyle; it was done pretty hastily and wasn’t to show any effectiveness at all but just to show that I’m not both scott and myself. Unfortunately, one of the posters here had his ego hurt for unknown reasons and since he’s acquired a following chose to attack me; the dilemma this causes is when people focus on ME and not the possibilities of the build this thread becomes pointless. I didn’t post to get flamed or insulted, or have people create casual conversations in my thread. It was just to show what I was using and hopefully other people who are interested can find their way here – perhaps it’ll work for them to. As for dueling, it’ll be easy to post videos from my perspective but a friend of mine who records fights also has migrated to Black Desert Online due to the current state of the game. I’ll PM you in a few regarding recording and we can work something out.

@Scott

Don’t be sorry or anything man, I’m not. They had their fun attacking me, I can’t stop/control what other people do nor would I try, but I’ve gained from what they did – a new friend which is always good. Cheers, bud.

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Posted by: Rekt.5360

Rekt.5360

@Rekt

Thanks for the response, I’ll try and address my reasoning behind these choices, I know you did sort of hop back and forth between both variants so I’ll try to interpret which version you meant. At first glance taking rousing resilience with eternal champion seems counterintuitive, why use stability with your form of healing? I’ve tested this without and found that without balanced stance, last stand, or dolyak signet the build was very weak to CC. Sure having the 3x stun breaks was nice but not when you’re locked in place by multiple people. Eternal champion allowed me to do things like escaping double gravity well for example or getting chain cc’d by multiple opponents (which can still happen but is significantly easier to manage with this). The upside, the stability you gain on stun break is only 3s with one stack – this prevents getting CC locked (giving enough time to dodge, block, or swap into something more defensive) but also doesn’t make you blow all your stun breaks simply to get out of CC. I find today a lot of the warriors using berserker mode are heading in the direction of spamming skills – using smash brawler, gunflame spam, spamming primal bursts off cooldown – weapon swapping to F1 burst again, etc. My approach to this build and playstyle was treating it very similar to core warrior, need to time and use skills effectively; using the berserker traitline “defensively” rather than just offensively to make up for losing things like forceful greatsword (the cooldown reduction is far more important to me then the damage as whirlwind is available almost immediately after weapon swapping back in GS as one example), last stand, and balanced stance. The overall idea was to increase warrior sustain without hurting the damage so much that it becomes unusable.

Next point sigil of paralyzation. In the WvW version, I take sigil of draining so I’m assuming you’re focusing on the conquest version here (it was still a difficult choice for me to drop the paralyzation sigil for that in WvW – I’m even considering changing back). The sigil of paralyzation stun affects shield bash, headbutt (equal to level 3 skull crack), and non-zerk mode skullcrack. Each of these skills has quite a long stun duration and with paralyzation allows for an even longer time they’d have to sit in things like hundred blades. The next direction I went was to allow for more hits to offset the damage loss from zerker.

For smasher brawler, I think you answered your own question in advance there, you simply don’t gain enough to adrenaline as quickly with other builds to make use of smash brawler; making savage instinct the superior choice (in my opinion) and I would almost never spam outrage just for adrenaline with this build. Again the idea towards this build is not to spam but to play in a similar manner to core warrior.

Yeah, when I run berserker mode I usually play a very offensive gs/axe+sh or gs/mace+sh with a berserker amulet, so it’s a very fast rushdown play style, hence why I take smash brawler (I mean using primal bursts as often as possible is the only way I can not fall out that much in terms of DPS, if I don’t make use of them I should just use Strength).

And yeah my bad for sigil of para I was referring to the conquest version and I completely forgot about headbutt. Headbutt with sigil of para would indeed be great, it’s essentially a lv 3 skullcrack by itself.

As for CC locking Idk I’ve never been overwhelmed by CC to the point where eternal champion + outrage has not been enough, I still take eternal champion in my builds and given how few times I found I actually get CC’ed (I have 60% berserker mode uptime thanks to smash brawler) I can’t really make good use of rousing resilience, but maybe that’s just me, I mean you can avoid pressure by applying enough counter pressure, and seeing how my builds are very offensive I think that’s what’s happening.

Other than that, yes, without cleansing ire you can’t generate adrenaline fast enough with mace to be able to use skull grinder every 2.5sec, but when I play berserker warrior I take cleansing ire since the condi cleanse can be pretty insane and I find that I don’t really need anymore stability from last stand.

But yeah, the build can be a serious pain to fight as another warrior, in conquest if I see that and I’m up against that on hammer GS I just leave, it’ll take me soooo long to kill that I don’t even want to bother. But yeah I was constantly talking about two different iterations of this build, my bad there, could have made the post confusing.

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Posted by: MandJ.8965

MandJ.8965

Dont feel bad scottb, too many guys here are too afraid that someone will show up with a build which is good and better than theirs.
You guys should feel bad to give him no critique or something thankful for sharing his thoughts.
instead of it you pro warriors smash someone and be like you are the bests. Yea, nice. Talking bs against others but being freekills when facing you guys in wvw/spvp

Thanks for the build

NA or EU?

EU. Didnt we fight before HoT hits in Obsidian Sanctum? Catch me if you can [Bye] has many fights against the guys from cake. I fought one warrior with my Mesmer, very often. fought the one who always runs away when hes loosing. But dont know the name anymore. GS/Rifle warrior.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

i tried a condi version and it worked out ok, not a big warrior fan tho so i did not give it an extensive testing.

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Posted by: Saleerian.2973

Saleerian.2973

Pvp wise

if I run power warrior I go for a similar build to yours.. but I prefer more dps so I use marauder amulet and I go for bloody reaction and bloody roar in the berserker trait line. (still tons of sustain, Rousing Resilience is rly strong since you got low cd stunbreakers)

Shield bash and head butt is rly nice CC tool with a rly low cds so there is no need to go for a mace since there is rly weak f2 skill in the berserker mode. (not condi builds case)

Although I am huge “powa zerk” fan I prefer Viper Berserker these days.. I made pretty balanced build and I dont even have fast arms.. (if there is any interest I can link the build when I get home)

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