Guild Wars 2

I am doing this as a personal tracker. Feel free to post your progress as well.
Current progress is diamond t3 completed

Day 1- Emerald tier 3 completed.
Build for Day 1—> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3ejMdQXIWFCuhApIGICKLAigBQ/ipfKwT4FWBA-TpBFwAMuAAVLD04BAQ4IAUb/BAHEAA
Analysis: Massive win streak while matchmaking filters out better players from the player base. 3 divisions of emerald completed before running into 4 que of pro league players running 2 ele 2 ranger.
Lots of necros, thieves, and rangers. Was expecting more revs and scrappers honestly. At this rate, I should reach ruby by the end of the weekend I think. Definitely will finish emerald in day 2 long as I can play.

Random thoughts:
Should be interesting to see how this match making algorithm holds up once players get to ruby. Currently, it is pretty obvious after the first 30 seconds which team is the “team of better players”.
If this is the case all the divisions, it will stink fighting losing battles half the time.

Best of luck to all the warriors out there. Making it work slowly but surely.
K Peezy

I’ve actually been running into some decent Warriors on my team. I did have one in particular that cost me 2 matches but then I had a Condi Berserker that was able to hold far with 3 people long enough for us to cap the two other points and then come and save him. It was amazing.

Day 2- Sapphire division—>progress 3 tiers completed

Competition is much stiffer right now as those in sapphire are pretty good. I have bee class swapping to complete my profession wins.

Analysis:
Healer tanks still a big issue in pvp. Seeing so many elementalists running around in clerics gear. And also rangers with search and rescue. More necros seems like a detriment at this tier. Need more eles and scrappers to do well.

Warrior still works alright against thieves and necros. Meta rev build too sustainy for berserker amulet power war.
Ele is still just meat shield for the damage. Druid can be killed however now it seems.

Started streaming my play to review later for improvements.

Nice dude…. Day 1- solo q my way to amber 3. It’s was cancerous.

Day 2- duo ed to emerald, faced lots of pro player phantaram, BTNA, etc… had a solid 50/50 winrate

Day 3- Today the plan is to make it out of emerald… I will update tonight.

EDIT: Maybe you should tell people that you also running Necro to not confuse the crowd.

Rain.9213:

I’ve actually been running into some decent Warriors on my team. I did have one in particular that cost me 2 matches but then I had a Condi Berserker that was able to hold far with 3 people long enough for us to cap the two other points and then come and save him. It was amazing.

Condi Berserker the dream! The only class I can’t fight with it is a good Scrapper, thanks for the praise and good luck climbing!

Fivedawgs.4267:

Nice dude…. Day 1- solo q my way to amber 3. It’s was cancerous.

Day 2- duo ed to emerald, faced lots of pro player phantaram, BTNA, etc… had a solid 50/50 winrate

Day 3- Today the plan is to make it out of emerald… I will update tonight.

EDIT: Maybe you should tell people that you also running Necro to not confuse the crowd.

I am just playing the matchups. I will always roll warrior vs other warriors or thieves though.
I will be more specific in which classes I am playing in each update.

Day 1: Stomped through Amber.
Day 2: Stomped through Emerald.
Day 3 (Today): made it through three tiers of Sapphire, however I know that Abj and other high-level players are close to swinging distance of me. I am not about to deal with longer queues against the elite just yet.

I anticipate getting to Ruby tomorrow, maybe even through a few tiers. But we all know how Ruby and beyond work out…

98% manmode spec, just missing defiant stance

Day 3 (Thursday)- completed tier 4 sapphire. (3 pips to ruby division)

Analysis: Pushing the cusp of the rank frontier, I am getting at least 2 pro league matches a night. I would say the quality of player is better in this tier, but you still have your outliers. This is a big problem when you have players partied with lower division players who are not up to the MMR standard.

Compositions tonight had several necro and rev teams. Felt like every match was 1-2 revs. I did play thief and necro as well this day.
Search and rescue at this level is still a big issue. Teams like to focus the necro just for the ranger to safely rez him.
Also much more 3 point strats at this level. Many more bodies being left for bleed.

Summary: War build still viable against the right comps. This tier is where rotations are starting to become more important that individual skill. getting closer to the 60/40 mark imo.

VOD links:

1) Legacy War warm up- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50951907
2)Legacy War 2 after warm up- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50952386
3) Khylo Me getting owned by true shot lol- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50952643
4) Legacy War lord rush as usual- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50953867
5) Massive necros in the forest- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50954421
6) Forest with some rev and engi- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50955486
7) loss on Forest- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50956167

8) Thief rotation plays, because the matchup was all engis- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50957984
9) Another thief on forest map. Win by the skin on our teeth- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/50959785

I decided to stream and got up to 9 viewers (YAY!). I will cut some of the VODs for the warrior matches and put them here for people to watch. Quality is a little low, but the idea is there and can be made out.
Willing to do commentary if someone is interested.

Day 3 objective wasnt met— ok sue me!!!

Day 4- made it to emerald T3.

Build — Power warrior.

Day 1 through amber in almost 2 hours into T2 Emerald.
Day 2 through emerald in about 3 hours of actually playing, not including breaks.
Day 2 Sapphire in 2 days yep easy peasy.

Build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhAmkCElilqATpHE7yBvj2W7sFpA0ACAA-TpBCABYcQAc4CA4eZgY2fAgjAADPAAA

Also I been experimenting with rune of Svarnir+Dogged March when I F12 and see 2 or more Reapers. Seems pretty anti reaper. -83% Chill duration.

Warlord.9074:

Day 1 through amber in almost 2 hours into T2 Emerald.
Day 2 through emerald in about 3 hours of actually playing, not including breaks.
Day 2 Sapphire to be continued.

Build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhAmkCElilqATpHE7yBvj2W7sFpA0ACAA-TpBCABYcQAc4CA4eZgY2fAgjAADPAAA

Also I been experimenting with rune of Svarnir+Dogged March when I F12 and see 2 or more Reapers. Seems pretty anti reaper. -83% Chill duration.

If I could squeeze out some reliable condi clear from runes, I would drop brawlers recovery for DotE in a heartbeat.

The -83 chill really works vs heavy reaper comp try it. If you want to run rampage its 100+

Day 4 (Friday)- 1 tier of Ruby completed.

It is becoming painful to continue. I think I will fractal.

Day 3 sapphire T1 I think I might wait for the weekday to continue all the fair weather bads are out today.

Day 4 – fell to get out of emerald, got to last tier 2 pip away from saphire.

The meta is condi condi condi or scrapper, bunker ele.

Build = Power warrior GS/ sw shield

warrior can’t carry. end of thread. if you get stuck you’re stuck.

Day 4: Made it to Ruby.

I decided to farm some of my profession achievements within the last tier of sapphire, since it was a bloody mess of a tier where a lot of prim legends were fighting. Ran into some teams, it was all hard fought and very, very tough to proceed.

Ruby matches right now are looking very professional, seeing some names of players that would be on Chaith Streams competing so I am assuming I would be doing something right.

Once I finish my few more Rev wins, I will focus on my Warrior through the 30 pips of Ruby. I expect massive difficulty.

On a different note, my Warrior build is the absolute destroyer of any Reaper I have come across, a triple necro comp on the other side, despite being a bad idea, I will win those matches 95% of the time.

Day (Saturday)- Made it as high as tier 4 ruby before falling to t3 ruby
Couple of team thrown matches messed up my win streak bonus.

Got yelled at by so pro league players about playing warrior in their matches. Got frustrated and stopped playing for the night. I got some good warrior footage for today. I think I will put the broadcast link and maybe later cut some match films from it like earlier.

1)Foefire, sloppy but good enough- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51296444
2) Khylo, mind games to secure 2 nodes- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51296613

3)Forest throw game away with the beast. I probably should have bled that necro at the end.- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51296976

4) Legacy, rotational failure at the lords for the loss.- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51297282

Anaylsis: When not fighting 3-4-5 ques, I am facing at least 2 necros a match. I swapped to cleasing ire to help but then the CC is so terrible without last stand. I rather use last stand.

I need to que with pro leaguers are not playing. So much rage and hate. Its just a game, I can play ranked warrior if I want to.

Sykper.6583:

Day 4: Made it to Ruby.

I decided to farm some of my profession achievements within the last tier of sapphire, since it was a bloody mess of a tier where a lot of prim legends were fighting. Ran into some teams, it was all hard fought and very, very tough to proceed.

Ruby matches right now are looking very professional, seeing some names of players that would be on Chaith Streams competing so I am assuming I would be doing something right.

Once I finish my few more Rev wins, I will focus on my Warrior through the 30 pips of Ruby. I expect massive difficulty.

On a different note, my Warrior build is the absolute destroyer of any Reaper I have come across, a triple necro comp on the other side, despite being a bad idea, I will win those matches 95% of the time.

Are you doing the svarinir or hoelbrak build?? I have nothing problem with strengi but if any of the runes above can help then why not. And about the traits I know what to run against condis.

day 1: Sapphire tier 1 ( 17 wins 2 losses solo Q)
days 2: Stuck at tier 3 Sapphire with a 28 – 10 Ratio. (Solo Q)
All in all not bad…

Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQRAsf5enMdAtkiVhAehAEliFjA7N4mcfuIjgVwJwIAsBzZA-TZhAwAAeAA82fYzJBwzRAYcZAA

Fivedawgs.4267:

Sykper.6583:

Day 4: Made it to Ruby.

I decided to farm some of my profession achievements within the last tier of sapphire, since it was a bloody mess of a tier where a lot of prim legends were fighting. Ran into some teams, it was all hard fought and very, very tough to proceed.

Ruby matches right now are looking very professional, seeing some names of players that would be on Chaith Streams competing so I am assuming I would be doing something right.

Once I finish my few more Rev wins, I will focus on my Warrior through the 30 pips of Ruby. I expect massive difficulty.

On a different note, my Warrior build is the absolute destroyer of any Reaper I have come across, a triple necro comp on the other side, despite being a bad idea, I will win those matches 95% of the time.

Are you doing the svarinir or hoelbrak build?? I have nothing problem with strengi but if any of the runes above can help then why not. And about the traits I know what to run against condis.

My build is personalized, Damage is primarily condi with some power. I would say it would fill a role close to a good Mal/Shiro Rev, which I am starting to see in Ruby, they pretty much counter the ShiroRevs up here.

Day 5 – made it out of emerald, 2 pip away from saphire t2. Stopped playing earlier because of my ping. Playing on getting to saphire t3 tomorrow.

BUILD = Power warrior and getting farmed by condi mesmer.

And ok @skyper

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

I am doing this as a personal tracker. Feel free to post your progress as well.

Day 1- Emerald tier 3 completed.
Build for Day 1—> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3ejMdQXIWFCuhApIGICKLAigBQ/ipfKwT4FWBA-TpBFwAMuAAVLD04BAQ4IAUb/BAHEAA
Analysis: Massive win streak while matchmaking filters out better players from the player base. 3 divisions of emerald completed before running into 4 que of pro league players running 2 ele 2 ranger.
Lots of necros, thieves, and rangers. Was expecting more revs and scrappers honestly. At this rate, I should reach ruby by the end of the weekend I think. Definitely will finish emerald in day 2 long as I can play.

Random thoughts:
Should be interesting to see how this match making algorithm holds up once players get to ruby. Currently, it is pretty obvious after the first 30 seconds which team is the “team of better players”.
If this is the case all the divisions, it will stink fighting losing battles half the time.

Best of luck to all the warriors out there. Making it work slowly but surely.
K Peezy

Question from a newbie here, but what is the thought process behind not taking Berserker?

Did the trait line not add anything to the build, and is the primal burst not worth it with the weapons you’re using?

It’s discipline, and he is running rampage instead of headbut so its no brainer. But yeah, …

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s discipline, and he is running rampage instead of headbut so its no brainer. But yeah, …

I know that – maybe I should have asked “why did you choose to not run the elite trait line”?

Was my question unclear?

Most people, at least pro player, substitute discpline for zerker; unless they are running gunflame. Melee warrior strengh def zerker/ strengh def discipline is lot stronger than def dis zerker. Anyways…

Starbreaker.6507:

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s discipline, and he is running rampage instead of headbut so its no brainer. But yeah, …

I know that – maybe I should have asked “why did you choose to not run the elite trait line”?

Was my question unclear?

I have looked into the berserker trait line. It appears to compliment certain play styles.

1) Condition warrior builds are greatly amplified by the trait line, and if you play any condition spec, I would advise to use it.

2) rifle specs are also enhanced by the new trait line. Gunflame damage is insane enough that it just makes that one skill worth it.

Now with my particular build, we can analyze what the berseker benefits would be vs the loses.
Currently Strength/ Discipline/ Defense
-Strength- Raw damage multipliers axe up to 30% and GS up to 40%
Discipline- weapon swap speed, quickness procs, all sorts of on weapon swap procs
Defense- stability, auto endure pain and my shield cd reduction
Berserker- boons on activation, damage multiplier, stun breaks

The limitation for zerke with gs/ axe shield is that my burst skills do not get better per say.
Primal eviscerate is less single target damage. Arc divider is better than arc slice, but with my play style I burst far too much to use primal form effectively.

The end all on why I don’t use the line is because I could not find one of the original 3 lines to give up. Losing strength gives up too much damage, discipline would give up too much versatility, and defense gives up too much personal support.

Dead or Alive, although similar to auto proc endure pain, requires you be in primal mode.

TLDR it just does not work well with these weapon sets in this type of build.

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s discipline, and he is running rampage instead of headbut so its no brainer. But yeah, …

I would love to run headbutt over rampage with this build. Such a better elite for skirmishes.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Starbreaker.6507:

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s discipline, and he is running rampage instead of headbut so its no brainer. But yeah, …

I know that – maybe I should have asked “why did you choose to not run the elite trait line”?

Was my question unclear?

I have looked into the berserker trait line. It appears to compliment certain play styles.

1) Condition warrior builds are greatly amplified by the trait line, and if you play any condition spec, I would advise to use it.

2) rifle specs are also enhanced by the new trait line. Gunflame damage is insane enough that it just makes that one skill worth it.

Now with my particular build, we can analyze what the berseker benefits would be vs the loses.
Currently Strength/ Discipline/ Defense
-Strength- Raw damage multipliers axe up to 30% and GS up to 40%
Discipline- weapon swap speed, quickness procs, all sorts of on weapon swap procs
Defense- stability, auto endure pain and my shield cd reduction
Berserker- boons on activation, damage multiplier, stun breaks

The limitation for zerke with gs/ axe shield is that my burst skills do not get better per say.
Primal eviscerate is less single target damage. Arc divider is better than arc slice, but with my play style I burst far too much to use primal form effectively.

The end all on why I don’t use the line is because I could not find one of the original 3 lines to give up. Losing strength gives up too much damage, discipline would give up too much versatility, and defense gives up too much personal support.

Dead or Alive, although similar to auto proc endure pain, requires you be in primal mode.

TLDR it just does not work well with these weapon sets in this type of build.

I had a feeling part of was primal bursts not being significant, but I wasn’t aware of what the other lines were giving.

Still relatively new, so thanks for the info!

Day 6- failed to get to saphire t3 but made it saphire t2. The 2 bunker ele meta is pretty strong up here; kept on losing 1 vs 1 against malice thieves… I guess thats the next hurdle for me.

BUILD = POWER WARRIOR ..

Fivedawgs.4267:

Day 6- failed to get to saphire t3 but made it saphire t2. The 2 bunker ele meta is pretty strong up here; kept on losing 1 vs 1 against malice thieves… I guess thats the next hurdle for me.

BUILD = POWER WARRIOR ..

Is malice thief the venoms?
I have run into a few venom thieves lately myself. The thing about bunker ele is that you can do like 75% of the pressure yourself in a skirmish, but it is nearly impossible to kill without another player.
Two ele teams you probably have to convince your team to play sides.

So, decided last night that with players literally afking when they see a warrior on their team, that I would rather save myself the griefing and just go through the upper-half of Ruby, Diamond, and so forth with my Scrapper.

That being said, Here’s the build I used to clobber all the way from Amber to T5 Sapphire (Disclaimer, you have to be good):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNApeTnEdAFegVhA2kCElilrA7d0mabtIBgEQBQJH06qBA-TpBHABEcCAsY/hAeAA2XGQgDBAAHBAA

You will likely have some concerns about…everything really. You see a Longbow with a sigil of intelligence yet no Ferocity, you see a Signet of Stamina, without signet trait…there’s a couple of peculiar choices you likely want me to elaborate on.

First thing, Signet of Stamina is a ‘Free’ Utility, either swapped in for Balanced Stance or Signet of Might against a Block Heavy Comp. The main reason why I have Signet of Stamina as a priority is A) Endurance Regeneration is slightly helpful but more importantly Full Condi Clear. You can deny a condibomb outright, you can stop reverse a necro’s counter to your condis by stopping it yourself, and I find Mending Plus Signet helps keep you absolutely in the game against condis overall. It’s also really difficult to play right, you need to know what you are doing. It’s fine to get condibombed once but letting yourself stand in a chill/poison field afterwards, you might as well hang up your cape. Furthermore, 45 second full condi-clear is certainly not the worst CD for a signet which gives a fairly useful passive, you need to dodge of lot of pressure.

Let’s talk about the Longbow then. I don’t need to explain to you all how clunky the bow can be at times, even with LB3 having that ‘fire behind’ capability, too often you might run into your skills just not triggering on a Rev blowing your face up with UA. Well that’s where your LB can provide a defensive tool for, in the form of King of Fire’s Critical Proc of Fire Shield, Fire Field Spam, and the general LB utility uses from its blind and immobilizes.

You are using your LB to lay down fire fields to cleave downed enemies, popping Sundering Leap to gain an additional Fire Shield or escaping the melee pressure or immobilize, and being a genuine nuisance while you wait for the oh so exclusive melee shutdown capability of Skull Grinder and Shield Bash, and did I forget to mention Headbutt?

You have solid AoE Presence, extremely good single-target lockdown, and if someone pops a UA on you while you have a fire shield they might as well run away from the enhanced burning you get from Balt Runes. Furthermore, I find that while opponents keep trying to remove your burning, it just continues to reapply from all these individual sources acting together. Balancing your Fire Shield Uptime, popping Mending to heal up and clear condis while burning AGAIN nearby enemies, you are just a maniac with fire.

The closest meta build I would attribute this role as a Warrior being, would be the MalShiro Revs you see. Revs have a better counter for DHs which this build will have issues with if you do not run SoM, but you above all else destroy any Necro. Berserker Stance and its reapplying Resistance takes a very careful and well-played boon corrupt or strip to stop you, and that has only happened to me once in which I returned the favor by headbutting the decent Mesmer.

So knock yourself out, have fun. I have played this build enough times to know what beats it and what it destroys. Go for it, and for the record with the amount of pressure you have, you could technically ‘carry’ the teamfight if people do not focus you first, which might seem like a pretty bad idea overall.

I can actually kill a bunker ele alone, it usually take 1 min max; yeah, I am struggling with malice, venom thief/ condi thief. OK, now that I think of it struggling is an exaggeration but I am loosing 70% of my 1 vs 1 against them.

What a terrible day today. I have lost 9 of my last 10. Its so frustrating because I got teams that want to 3 point with no anchor spec. No one trying to stomp my downed targets. Getting back capped every 20 seconds be the slowest classes, when we have a mesmer portal. A freaking portal.

I think I should stop before I throw away all my ruby pips. I can’t bring myself to stream when its like this.

Made Ruby playing 3 hours at a time after work lol

Managed to salvage last night after I took a break. Hit a nice win streak and I am now in t5 ruby. Hoping to close out to diamond in the next few days.

Favorite match from last night.
1)Forest win- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51760130

Analysis:
I switched to marauder amulet and Hoelbrook runes. I found that my current ruby teammates were relying on me taking 1v1s vs scrappers and revs more often. So I had to water my damage in order to survive long enough in those fights. Not what I would like to do but I must adapt. Versus 2+ necro teams, I am just dropping shield mastery for dogged march. Unblockable marks trait from necros makes shield mastery more of a liability than a help since I get more effects from dogged march and blocking is useless in this matchup.

Day 6 = No progress, also tried to help my friend get out of MMR. So my mmr took a hit, so I’ll try my best to get out of t3 tomorow.

BUILD = POWER REVS … and necros are everywhere, necro here , necro there . Also I have won 35% or 40% of my games today.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Managed to salvage last night after I took a break. Hit a nice win streak and I am now in t5 ruby. Hoping to close out to diamond in the next few days.

Favorite match from last night.
1)Forest win- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51760130

Analysis:
I switched to marauder amulet and Hoelbrook runes. I found that my current ruby teammates were relying on me taking 1v1s vs scrappers and revs more often. So I had to water my damage in order to survive long enough in those fights. Not what I would like to do but I must adapt. Versus 2+ necro teams, I am just dropping shield mastery for dogged march. Unblockable marks makes it more of a liability than a help.

Unblockable mark?? You mean signet of might?

Fivedawgs.4267:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Managed to salvage last night after I took a break. Hit a nice win streak and I am now in t5 ruby. Hoping to close out to diamond in the next few days.

Favorite match from last night.
1)Forest win- http://www.twitch.tv/interpretinterrupt/v/51760130

Analysis:
I switched to marauder amulet and Hoelbrook runes. I found that my current ruby teammates were relying on me taking 1v1s vs scrappers and revs more often. So I had to water my damage in order to survive long enough in those fights. Not what I would like to do but I must adapt. Versus 2+ necro teams, I am just dropping shield mastery for dogged march. Unblockable marks makes it more of a liability than a help.

Unblockable mark?? You mean signet of might?

I mean the marks from necromancers are unblockable. So I dropped that shield mastery for dogged march when facing 2+ necros. edited for clarity.

Lol, you are the most laid back warrior ever dude. Watching that gane made me laugh, at least you know what you can take.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Lol, you are the most laid back warrior ever dude. Watching that gane made me laugh, at least you know what you can take.

Which video, the last one?
Yeah I was laughing cause I had que into that thief like 3 times and we kept winning, so it was funny.

Yup, the last one

Day (Tuesday): No ranked progression. Win some pips, throw some pips away. I was either 0 or -1 pips for the day.

Had some good matches against Oeggs and Wakkey but we couldn’t finish. Not sure if it is on stream, I will check.

Day 7: didn’t touch rank today because of my ping… 200+ and kept on spiking in the 700. So no progress today, but I spent most of my day wvw… ill try again tomorow.

Currently in first Ruby Division exclusively with this metabattle build I created:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_Shoutbreak_Sage

High learning curve but really fun to play imo. The team support is actually pretty significant.

Dojo.1867:

Currently in first Ruby Division exclusively with this metabattle build I created:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_Shoutbreak_Sage

High learning curve but really fun to play imo. The team support is actually pretty significant.

You sir have given me an idea to work on this weekend.

Ah so the tactic line is making a comeback. 6k at every stun break is a bit op, I can’t believe people still think we don’t have sustain. Warriors have sustain, our main problem are revs. Revs are and will alays be stronger than us. I’ll check if last stand and stamina will yield me the same cd on dogde as warhorn + stamina.

Honestly, I am looking forward to playing a tactics build. I will fool around after hitting diamond. Must focus on the prize.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Ah so the tactic line is making a comeback. 6k at every stun break is a bit op, I can’t believe people still think we don’t have sustain. Warriors have sustain, our main problem are revs. Revs are and will alays be stronger than us. I’ll check if last stand and stamina will yield me the same cd on dogde as warhorn + stamina.

Well to be honest the defense line makes the build and already heals for 3k. The rune adds another 1.5k and last but not least traited shouts another 1.5k.

Basically the reason why shouts make sense is that the build already runs a healing power amulet so better make best use out of it. The shout heal is also high aoe team heal. Also you will already run Shake it Off since it is the lowest cd stunbreak next to Outrage.

So tactics is not a must have but basically the best option for sustain out of defense right now. If they added decent heal (or regeneration) sources in a different traitline then I would go for that.

Also helps that traiting To the Limit actually makes it a very decent heal and warrior heals otherwise feel really mediocre at the moment.