Guild Wars 2

So apparently they are looking at Shouts!
I would fight for a new 5/15/25 skills.

Where that info from?

Scoobaniec.9561:

Where that info from?

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/101775/GaurdAndWarriorBuffs.png

We all know what we need:

redslion.9675:

We all know what we need:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8hxuASCJQ

YES

Oh..hello shout botters then, so i guess they r done with defense line and moving to tactic now?

hehe
im running a very very good shout build for any pvp/wvw situation on warrior with which i win most 1 vs 1s and shouts and hammer help in groupfights too

and now i recieve a buff?

gotta love anet

I dont feel the existing Warrior shouts really NEED a buff, except MAYBE “On my mark”

However, I WOULD love to see new shouts and an elite shout.

And our tactics minors sorta suck XD

Shouts are already good they heal you very nice (: but here comes people saying OMG OP NERF PLEASE but they do not realize a Warrior is a WARRIOR you shouldn’t get close of course he will hit hard what do you suspect?

shouts don’t really need a buff to be honest but i’ll take it, maybe if on my mark did something more worthwhile that would be good enough for me.

redslion.9675:

We all know what we need:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8hxuASCJQ

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Coward!%22
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22None_Shall_Pass!%22
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22You_Move_Like_a_Dwarf!%22
lol

I think all that shouts really need are better minor traits to replace the 5-15-25 jokes that we have in the tactics line

As someone who plays shouts predominantly, even in PvP, I approve of this message.

Even if it’s something as simple as cooldown reduction (which would be CRAZY good), any buffs to shouts can only make me happy.

Personally I think shouts are perfectly fine where they are at right now, what I would love to see is maybe some more boons per shouts (what does a heavy armor profession have to do for some protection around here?!)or even shouts give adrenaline from the dicipline tree could me thrown together with that skill would be pretty ace! Just anything other then higher heals which is totally not needed. Lower CDs aren’t really needed either but would be cool.

The Minors need changed.

Warriors have some of the best shouts in the game with reasonably low cooldowns. I’m not sure why out of all things in this game they would work on our shouts.

The Tactics line minors have nothing to do with shouts.

I still want a shout called “Stop Hiding Coward!” that removes stealth from all targets in a 900 radius around you and puts reveal on them for 10s. I don’t really think our current shouts need to be buffed to be honest. They’re great already. I’d much rather have new utilities to cover things we lack.

I would much rather have banners buffed instead. I’d like to be able to have my banners follow me. I move around a lot when I fight and its a pain to pick up banners when i’m using them losing my weapon skills when I do. And not to mention the fact people keep stealing my banners! I want a little minion to carry my banners and follow me around while I fight.

Nikkinella.8254:

I want a little minion to carry my banners and follow me around while I fight.

I’d love that. But then banners would just be more powerful versions of shouts.

I suppose. I’m just sick of other people picking up my banners and running away from a fight to save their skin and screwing over the rest of us who stay to fight. If they could somehow make it so banners could only be picked up by people in my party or guild, that would be great.

I still wonder we have shout “for great justice” like wtf.. Guardian has some cool shouts like hold the line, stand ur ground or ranger sick em. At least change it to “for great loot”.

How about a shout where we say “This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to defeat you! Take this, my love, my anger and all my sorrow!” And our next attack inflicts burning and knockback.

Nikkinella.8254:

I still want a shout called "Stop Hiding Coward!" that removes stealth from all targets in a 900 radius around you and puts reveal on them for 10s. I don’t really think our current shouts need to be buffed to be honest. They’re great already. I’d much rather have new utilities to cover things we lack.

I would much rather have banners buffed instead. I’d like to be able to have my banners follow me. I move around a lot when I fight and its a pain to pick up banners when i’m using them losing my weapon skills when I do. And not to mention the fact people keep stealing my banners! I want a little minion to carry my banners and follow me around while I fight.

Warriors are very strong vs thieves so your shout would make thieves an easy kill for warriors.

I would be happy with an alteration of the banners to be called tactics and more of an aura mechanism affecting targets from 600-900 radius around the warrior(10 man cap) but you can only have 1 banner active at a time.

The alternate idea I had "I want a little minion" would be to summon a Bannerman to hold X banner for the duration that acts as a pet which would have their own unique skill or ability. You could adjust Powerful Banners to allow the bannerman to attack, in a way, like the necro pet’s. You don’t get full control like a ranger pet but you do have a little knight carrying your flag. Now the stats on these bannerman would have to be researched and properly implemented but make them strong enough to handle some damage. Could you imagine summoning 4 banners and each of them having an unique look and attack based on the banner you summon?

(Companions auto-attack while still granting banner bonuses)

Banner of Discipline - Summon an axe ranger doing medium damage from afar(900 range). Casts Splitblade every 20 seconds.

Banner of Strength - Summon a warrior wielding a sword doing high melee damage. Casts Shake It Off every 25 seconds.

Banner of Defense - Summon a guardian wielding a shield that does no damage. Casts Shield of Judgement (low damage granting protection for 5 seconds on a 20 second cooldown) and assists with resurrecting downed allies.

Banner of Tactics - Summon a staff elementalist that does light damage from afar(900). Casts Geyser on a 20 second cd.

Battle Standard - Summon all classes notated above for 20 seconds and rallying downed allies in 600 radius.

I may have gotten a little carried away but it would be very cool to see a warrior basically walking around with his own squad of bannerman.

EDIT: Made some last minute changes.

You forgot the words, “We are THINKING/MAYBE looking at shout and sword-shield.” Don’t underestimate those two words when used to talk about balance.

Shouts? As if the hammer train wasn’t overly strong in WvW anyway.

would be enough for me if they add to Lung Capacity (-20% shout cd) the removal/conversion of 1 cond. So i can finally change the soldier rune.
It would be just like the warhorn trait which is in the same master major slot.

Oh noes the shout healers will be back…

Boroming.8093:

would be enough for me if they add to Lung Capacity (-20% shout cd) the removal/conversion of 1 cond. So i can finally change the soldier rune.
It would be just like the warhorn trait which is in the same master major slot.

Wouldn’t you just keep the soldier runes so you can remove 2 conditions per shout?

Red Falcon.8257:

Oh noes the shout healers will be back…

Better than the banner healers. Though warrior group healing is so abysmal that it’s hard to imagine anyone considering themselves a “healer”.

Yaki.9563:

Red Falcon.8257:

Oh noes the shout healers will be back…

Better than the banner healers. Though warrior group healing is so abysmal that it’s hard to imagine anyone considering themselves a “healer”.

Shout healers never went away. And the only buff shouts could use is an increase in radius. An you’re completely wrong about that. Warrior is the best healer in game.

Yaki.9563:

Red Falcon.8257:

Oh noes the shout healers will be back…

Better than the banner healers. Though warrior group healing is so abysmal that it’s hard to imagine anyone considering themselves a “healer”.

This is why the warrior sub forums are generally just a joke when compared to the others.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vigorous_Shouts

Healing: 1,192 (0.8)

Yaki.9563:

Boroming.8093:

would be enough for me if they add to Lung Capacity (-20% shout cd) the removal/conversion of 1 cond. So i can finally change the soldier rune.
It would be just like the warhorn trait which is in the same master major slot.

Wouldn’t you just keep the soldier runes so you can remove 2 conditions per shout?

Eh, I often use pure of voice on my guardian and I’ve always felt that was a waste of runes. I do take other condition removal, but on the signet, focus, virtue, or purity. Since I’d have other options on a warrior as well (in the same trait line even, in warhorn’s case) and Shake It Off already removing one would make a full bar of traited warrior shouts a bit more effective than guardian ones, I think I’d prefer to pick up another rune set. Melandru, scholar, 2xwater 4x altruism, or whatever else fit what I was doing.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Yaki.9563:

Red Falcon.8257:

Oh noes the shout healers will be back…

Better than the banner healers. Though warrior group healing is so abysmal that it’s hard to imagine anyone considering themselves a “healer”.

This is why the warrior sub forums are generally just a joke when compared to the others.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vigorous_Shouts

Healing: 1,192 (0.8)

Yet you failed to compare to banner regen. Does that make you a joke?