Guild Wars 2

If you can win in a duel or match without Healing Signet, show me and i’ll be impressed

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

Pibriamal.8719:

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

im all for warriors being sustain and all that, but I’m just saying that after everyone complaining about how OP healing signet is and how OP warriors are, i’d like to see a 1v1 where a warrior gets by with healing surge.

And i’d love to duel, but I probably won’t be on for a while

The difference between healing signet and healing surge is not that great.

HS: Slightly less than 400/sec
Healing Surge: 330/sec

The big difference is that signet requires no activation and is always on. Unless you use healing surge immediately off cooldown every time, it’s going to be much worse. It also requires full adrenaline to heal for that much, which is unlikely.

On the other hand, in a short fight healing surge has a big advantage as you can use it nearly immediately. For example if you use it 10s into the fight, you’ve effectively done 9800 healing vs. just 3900 healing from signet. It doesn’t take that long for signet to pull ahead though, maybe a minute or two.

It’s pretty clear to me (as a warrior) that signet is stupid. It heals for too much as a passive and the active is worthless. That’s not how signets are supposed to work.

warrior using healing surge

I miss the days when mending was actually a viable heal. ;_;

risenlord.2035:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjnn9qRI_Q

warrior using healing surge

Im not sure if you posted a 10/set/2012 dated video on purpose or not.

http://youtu.be/BiSK2BNA2YA

CMstorm.8679:

Pibriamal.8719:

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

im all for warriors being sustain and all that, but I’m just saying that after everyone complaining about how OP healing signet is and how OP warriors are, i’d like to see a 1v1 where a warrior gets by with healing surge.

And i’d love to duel, but I probably won’t be on for a while

Doesn’t this seem wrong to you? That it’s at a point that warriors quite probably rely on healing signet to be competitive? Nerf healing signet, and what do we have? We have pre-healing signet warriors; which were the laughing stock of sPvP for an entire year.

Other skills need to be looked at; not healing signet. Perhaps cleansing ire, or simply just weapon cooldowns.

hybrid.5027:

CMstorm.8679:

Pibriamal.8719:

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

im all for warriors being sustain and all that, but I’m just saying that after everyone complaining about how OP healing signet is and how OP warriors are, i’d like to see a 1v1 where a warrior gets by with healing surge.

And i’d love to duel, but I probably won’t be on for a while

Doesn’t this seem wrong to you? That it’s at a point that warriors quite probably rely on healing signet to be competitive? Nerf healing signet, and what do we have? We have pre-healing signet warriors; which were the laughing stock of sPvP for an entire year.

Other skills need to be looked at; not healing signet. Perhaps cleansing ire, or simply just weapon cooldowns.

The keyword Entire Year
This is how long pvp warriors had to wait for another viable heal to be good in Spvp. Now that they got it, other classes hates it because now warriors aren’t as roflstomp as they were before.

Some players just seem to be lazy to find ways to beat a warrior. They aren’t a hard class to take down when you compare them to other classes.

Pibriamal.8719:

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

Are you on NA or EU?
I’d LOVE to duel a warrior without HS. Nowadays warriors don’t even join 1v1 servers because HS is banned there and it seems they can’t get a win without it.

I don’t know how good you are – I don’t even KNOW who you are actually -, but I’d like, for once, duelling with a Warrior without HS. Everytime I meet a warrior without it there is a 100% chance he is in spvp just for doing his daily and killing them is not even satisfying.

Assuming you are quite capable, it would be really interesting for me.

They need to buff the other heals now to be on par with HS. Anyone tried the new healing?

Zord.6130:

Are you on NA or EU?
I’d LOVE to duel a warrior without HS. Nowadays warriors don’t even join 1v1 servers because HS is banned there and it seems they can’t get a win without it.

I don’t know how good you are – I don’t even KNOW who you are actually -, but I’d like, for once, duelling with a Warrior without HS. Everytime I meet a warrior without it there is a 100% chance he is in spvp just for doing his daily and killing them is not even satisfying.

Assuming you are quite capable, it would be really interesting for me.

Just to get this right: you’re running perplexity runes in wvw with your d/d ele and in the same time complain about healing signet? lolmao

HS whine threads like this make me laugh every time … Why? Because it just means the Op doesn’t do more than 400(ish) dps to out damage HS. No, I am not defending HS, personally I have always used healing surge bc I like waiting till my hp is somewhat low and pressing 6 for a full (or almost) heal and then proceed to return stabbing the enemy to death.

Yaki.9563:

The difference between healing signet and healing surge is not that great.

HS: Slightly less than 400/sec
Healing Surge: 330/sec

That’s actually quite significant. It’s a 70 HP/second difference, meaning a 30 second battle will result in an extra 2100 of healing for healing signet.

One would the naturally expect healing signet to be superior on tanky builds since they have a better chance of drawing the fight out than glassier builds. However, you do see healing signet getting used on a lot of not-so-tanky builds due to things like good access to stability, virtual immunity to CC, immunity to direct damage, immunity to conditions, and frequent burst skill use and adrenaline building. It was tough to get healing signet to work in DPS-oriented builds before a lot of the changes were made simply because it couldn’t provide proper sustain, but now you can manage it.

I’ve never felt the problem (assuming there is one) was healing signet itself, it’s just that there’s a lot of tools that can be used to make it seem like it is the problem. The adrenaline provided by healing surge in exchange for the inferior healing is often not worth it since it’s not very inconvenient to create a build that generates more adrenaline than it can possibly use, and mending is simply not a good option for condition removal when you can use cleansing ire and berserker’s stance.

If the secondary abilities of the other heal skills had more importance or usefulness, there would be more incentive not to take healing signet, so I don’t think gutting healing signet is really a good option. Perhaps slightly lowering the regen and boosting the activated heal would be a good change, but it doesn’t need to be nerfed through the floor.

Yamsandjams.3267:

Yaki.9563:

The difference between healing signet and healing surge is not that great.

HS: Slightly less than 400/sec
Healing Surge: 330/sec

That’s actually quite significant. It’s a 70 HP/second difference, meaning a 30 second battle will result in an extra 2100 of healing for healing signet.

What if the battle lasts 40 seconds? The warrior uses Healing Surge twice which results in 20540 hp total. That’s 514 hps with Healing Surge vs 407 hps with Healing Signet.

CMStorm, what class do you play as your main?

teg.1340:

Zord.6130:

Are you on NA or EU?
I’d LOVE to duel a warrior without HS. Nowadays warriors don’t even join 1v1 servers because HS is banned there and it seems they can’t get a win without it.

I don’t know how good you are – I don’t even KNOW who you are actually -, but I’d like, for once, duelling with a Warrior without HS. Everytime I meet a warrior without it there is a 100% chance he is in spvp just for doing his daily and killing them is not even satisfying.

Assuming you are quite capable, it would be really interesting for me.

Just to get this right: you’re running perplexity runes in wvw with your d/d ele and in the same time complain about healing signet? lolmao

Hello mr warrior defender, I hope your class will get so many nerf you will stop playing for that.
And I mean you.

Just for clarity, I never take WvW into account when discussing “balance”. But it looks like you just like to steamroll upleveleds with your op class in WvW, so I feel sorry for you.

My request for the duel (in PvP of course) is still valid though

Healing sig better for sustained dmg (1v1 situations).

Healing surge better against burst dmg and when paired with stability to avoid interrupt.

Mending never really useful.

Nerf healing sig passive SLIGHTLY, buff healing sig active MODERATELY, buff mending SIGNIFICANTLY.

Wait to see how it plays out, and modify healing surge accordingly.