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Posted by: Hawke.1094

Hawke.1094

I’ve only played warrior for 2 months, idk much about what’s good and what’s bad about the traits yet. However, why are there cast time on signets?

The way they are now, other than the healing and rage signets, the rest are pretty kitten bad in PvP. Why cant we have instant cast signet?
Imagine having condi clear, unblockable attack on demand to guarantee a hit on important skills? Instant second adrenaline bar in combat when switching weapon?

That alone would solve so many of the problems warriors are having. And put the signet to use too, making warrior’s combat much more reactive, like a real warrior is, instead of having to activate most of the stuff BEFORE getting into a fight.
The current proactive combat style of warriors doesnt really make me feel like a warrior. Warriors are supposed to be fast paced, exciting with a reactive feel.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

If you think the signets are bad in pvp, then insta-cast won’t do anything to change that.

That being said, afaik, other than Sor and HS, they pretty much are insta-cast. Both Might and Dolyak are, and then the other two are 1/4s cast.

And the signets actually are pretty good, especially when traited. I mean, if I didn’t feel like I needed stances to stay alive, or could get the trait as the Strength adept, I’d totally use them more.

Signet of Stamina is the equivalent of unstealable perma-vigor…. Pretty solid in its own right, but rarely makes the cut on my bar due to other constraints.

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Posted by: Hawke.1094

Hawke.1094

If you think the signets are bad in pvp, then insta-cast won’t do anything to change that.

That being said, afaik, other than Sor and HS, they pretty much are insta-cast. Both Might and Dolyak are, and then the other two are 1/4s cast.

And the signets actually are pretty good, especially when traited. I mean, if I didn’t feel like I needed stances to stay alive, or could get the trait as the Strength adept, I’d totally use them more.

Signet of Stamina is the equivalent of unstealable perma-vigor…. Pretty solid in its own right, but rarely makes the cut on my bar due to other constraints.

oops, I haven’t used signet for so long I didnt realize might is instant cast :P
but by bad in pvp, what I mean is they’re pretty interruptive in PvP. The cast time is like a wall stopping the flow of combat for warrior. I’m only talking about the stamina and the fury one btw, but mostly stamina xD

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Choppy.4183

oops, I haven’t used signet for so long I didnt realize might is instant cast :P
but by bad in pvp, what I mean is they’re pretty interruptive in PvP. The cast time is like a wall stopping the flow of combat for warrior. I’m only talking about the stamina and the fury one btw, but mostly stamina xD

Stamina and Fury both have a 1/4 s cast time… the lowest cast time of any skill in the game among skills that actually have a cast time. It’d be hard as hell for someone to interrupt them, and, if they do, you can just recast it a few seconds later.

Also, for what it’s worth, the Stamina signet should be your among your last lines of defense against condis anyway. The passive is just too good, especially in pvp (if you can afford to slot it on your bar, that is).

Best of luck, though.

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Posted by: Hawke.1094

Hawke.1094

oops, I haven’t used signet for so long I didnt realize might is instant cast :P
but by bad in pvp, what I mean is they’re pretty interruptive in PvP. The cast time is like a wall stopping the flow of combat for warrior. I’m only talking about the stamina and the fury one btw, but mostly stamina xD

Stamina and Fury both have a 1/4 s cast time… the lowest cast time of any skill in the game among skills that actually have a cast time. It’d be hard as hell for someone to interrupt them, and, if they do, you can just recast it a few seconds later.

Also, for what it’s worth, the Stamina signet should be your among your last lines of defense against condis anyway. The passive is just too good, especially in pvp (if you can afford to slot it on your bar, that is).

Best of luck, though.

By interruptive, I dont mean the can be interrupted. I mean that they can interrupt other warrior’s skills with cast time. Like, when you’re charging and you use the signet, the charge is gonna get interrupted. Same with hundred blades and the rifle’s 3 or burst xD

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Oh, I see. I’ve never noticed. Must be slight differences in how we play (like maybe I don’t use them during a charge), not sure.

The biggest issue I’ve had with them is adren decay when I use Fury. Makes me sad in the pants.

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Hawke.1094

Oh, I see. I’ve never noticed. Must be slight differences in how we play (like maybe I don’t use them during a charge), not sure.

The biggest issue I’ve had with them is adren decay when I use Fury. Makes me sad in the pants.

Idk what gave you the impression that I use those signets during charges, it’s merely an example. So no need for sarcasm there lol
Hell, I dont even use the signets. With the ways traits are atm, they are in no way comparable to shouts in PvP with the shout heals and Rousing Resilience.

Anyways, that’s my point, you’re not using them during any skill with cast time or long animation such as rifle burst, charges or hundred blades is because the cast will interrupt the skill, thus most ppl are using shouts or stances instead.
So if the cast is removed, ppl, or atleast I, can actually use those signet to full potential in PvP, instead of them being used mainly for the passive.

And if fury has no cast time, it would be nice to be able to pop fury during the burst cast to do a 3 bars burst with only 1 cast. Or if you’re GS/Axe, you can burst with GS, switch to axe, pop fury and instantly do another burst for tons of damage..

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Choppy.4183

Eh, I wasn’t being sarcastic.

When telling me you weren’t concerned about being interrupted, but that signets themselves, “can interrupt other warrior’s skills with cast time. Like, when you’re charging and you use the signet, the charge is gonna get interrupted” I assumed you were saying that’s an issue you come across.

I suppose, at the end of the day, I don’t really see the problem. The two signets that have lengthy cast times are the ones you’ve said are good. Half of the other ones don’t have cast times, the other two have the shortest cast times possible, you can’t really get interrupted when using them, you say you aren’t using them while charging (the first example you gave), and the second example you gave (100b→Evis) seems like a non-issue to me for a couple of reasons.

Anyway, whatever the issue, good luck with it.

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Posted by: Hawke.1094

Hawke.1094

Eh, I wasn’t being sarcastic.

When telling me you weren’t concerned about being interrupted, but that signets themselves, “can interrupt other warrior’s skills with cast time. Like, when you’re charging and you use the signet, the charge is gonna get interrupted” I assumed you were saying that’s an issue you come across.

I suppose, at the end of the day, I don’t really see the problem. The two signets that have lengthy cast times are the ones you’ve said are good. Half of the other ones don’t have cast times, the other two have the shortest cast times possible, you can’t really get interrupted when using them, you say you aren’t using them while charging (the first example you gave), and the second example you gave (100b->Evis) seems like a non-issue to me for a couple of reasons.

Anyway, whatever the issue, good luck with it.

Sigh…idk if in phrasing it wrong or the ideas are too complicated to understand, but lemme summarize it for you.

I dont use the signet during different skills BECAUSE OF the cast time. Please note the phrase “because of”. But just because I cant doesnt mean I dont want to,

And the GS/axe burst isnt an issue. What it is is a possibility, an improvement. Try not to think of it as an issue, will you?

Anyways, I know that you’re not seeing the issues, but that doesnt magically make it disappear. I’m sure there are ppl who could see the issues more clearly.

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Posted by: Schrell.6352

Schrell.6352

Sometimes ago, i had superior rune of Lyssa equiped for convert 5 conditions in boons on elite use. The cast time of SoR was frustating because of interrupts and damages ( X stack of burning for 1 sec could be mehh :p). It’s a pity cause i was not using berseker stance and that was nice