Guild Wars 2

Here’s a change that wasn’t really mentioned anywhere: Axe 5 is now normalized across PvE and PvP, making PvE now much stronger.

Is that enough to take offhand Axe? Probably not.

no its already been normalized so I don’t know what the change is.

Uhh, no, it’s not normalized yet.

It’s not bad for PvE. If someone runs the numbers and it actually does better than Axe 1 it might be worth it. Definitely better than offhand sword. Not sure about offhand mace.

Still total crap for PvP though. I guess asking for projectile reflect was just too much.

yea it is, I can find the patch notes for you if you want. This happened before HoT. Don’t understand why you think its not Have you even tested it or ar you just repeating what you heard.

You can look at it directly in game, compare PvP lobby to open world.

Axe5 is 50% stronger in PvP than PvE.

And they specifically mentioned this change in the preview but Dulfy didn’t catch it.

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/v/35627270?t=48m21s

So is it a dps incrase to use axe5 yet?

Axe 5 with the build below: 5415 base dmg (after patch + 50% =8122 dmg)
100b with the second build below : 9843 base dmg

soo yeah …. it hits 5 targets and you can move but you have double the cd.
i realy dont now

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAnXRjMdQlHW3B+dAnIG+BKNNy9y4ejR46tHIAKAA-TFCBABnpEMP9BVq+TN7PglyvAeEAAcGAY4AEQKgIWGB-w

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAnXRjMdQlHW3B+dAnIGCCKbBugAQLjaPMu14DmeA-TFCBABB8IAqU9HAODAnpEsm9HY4AEglyv80HQKgIWGB-w

It’s good for trash mobs, I guess.

DanAlcedo.3281:

Axe 5 with the build below: 5415 base dmg (after patch + 50% =8122 dmg)
100b with the second build below : 9843 base dmg

soo yeah …. it hits 5 targets and you can move but you have double the cd.
i realy dont now

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAnXRjMdQlHW3B+dAnIG+BKNNy9y4ejR46tHIAKAA-TFCBABnpEMP9BVq+TN7PglyvAeEAAcGAY4AEQKgIWGB-w

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAnXRjMdQlHW3B+dAnIGCCKbBugAQLjaPMu14DmeA-TFCBABB8IAqU9HAODAnpEsm9HY4AEglyv80HQKgIWGB-w

Could be used to supplement the damage of main hand mace I guess. Too bad the axe cd trait is in a terrible spot…

I wish they’d move offhand axe away from this awkward concept of an “aoe melee off hand”.

From my perspective Axe is a straight damage weapon. It provides little to no utility (I guess Axe throw can be considered utility) and no defense.

In damage is has to compete with gs which is better damage wise because of 100 blades, ww, better recharges, and the gs strength trait. I even like its burst skill better for damage since it is multi target and 1 bar and 3 bars does the same damage. Gs also has rush and ww which work both offensively and defensively. So pretty much it is superior to Axe in every way.

But you have 2 weapon sets right? So you can use Axe on you second one. This is done because Axe is probably your next best power weapon but it is still trash because it has no utility and I feel eviscerate is terrible. Now you pretty much take shield because if you don’t you have anything left after stances you are dead. Shield gives you a little time to get dodges and skill recharges to switch back to gs.

So what does Axe need? A better burst skill, utility, and defense. Does it look like we got any of that? No.

I have an idea to make offhand axe more fun, specifically axe 5

Have it knockback your foes, like a human beyblade or something. There are plenty of “Whirl around and damage foes” kind of skills in guild wars 2, this could be something interesting.

Could be used to strip stability off someone, or becoming a player controlled line of warding or unsteady ground

Thoughts?

You talking about this? http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cyclone_Axe

I don’t see where you heard that.

“Cyclone Axe was previously split between PvP/PvE with it dealing less damage in PvE. We unsplit it now so it deals more damage in PvE.”