Guild Wars 2

I feel so weak in wvw, better equip a rifle

Good kittens man, good kittys

Nice. Just trying to work out your build.

30 in Vitality tree (Damage on boons, healing shouts, shout recharge reduc)
20 in toughness tree ( 200+ toughness on condition, shield toughness + cooldown reduc)
20 in power tree (Damage on adrenal level, unknown)

Superior Sigil of Flame on one of your weapons, healing allies (or self) on another.

Gear which focuses on Power, Toughness and Vitality. Crits not needed but nice to have.

Srry I need a new set of armour to focus on as im support focused aswell.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQRBJdxG2JpDJPGFkzD4QGAQPs6qtMF+J9IM0SD;TYAqsMZJyymlLLZWA
is my build, the 30th point in defense I tend to switch around depending on the mood (missile deflection / last stand / defy pain) but defy pain is the safe choice.

I also use 6 piece soldier rune, must have for any shout build imho and the sigil that has a 60% chance to remove conditions on crit in my shield.

The gear you got correctly, pwr/tough/vit (karma armor, badge jewelry&weaponry).

Since my first post of “That’s nuts” got me an infraction / warning, I’ll reply with something longer, but it will boil down to the same thing: “That was incredible.”

the link is broken

Nice to see MM from their own perspective instead of watching them wipe enemy PuGs. Anyway, don’t know why you are trying, people always gonna whine cause bad. Warrior is the beefiest profession for the least effort of all. Only things that come close are well played Guardians and Mesmers(so far I’ve seen like 2 of these.) Shout builds are amazing for WvW, although I prefer Fear Me over On my mark. Here’s my own contribution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWCXRTvwP18&feature=plcp

@tribeca – weird, the link is broken if I click it, yet if I copy & paste it in the address bar it works fine.

Stop telling people how to build non bad warrior’s Flaming. Its better for my quality of life to see terrible 0 toughness 5 signet GS builds on WvW opponents.

Hi Flamu, nice video. What are your thoughts on using superior rune of the dolyak rather than soldier? Dolyak swaps the vital & toughness, so more toughness and less vital. the 6 slot bonus is “Gain Health Regeneration”. How useful is the condition curing part of the soldier?

edit: sorry, didnt realize you already addressed the rune of the soldier.

Also, do you think this build would be effective with an axe rather than a mace? I realize the mace has very nice CC, but i currently dont have one thats any good :S. For that matter, i dont have a good sword or warhorn. Currently rolling exotic crafted axe w/ HotW shield along with a crafted exotic hammer.

Heru.5427:

Nice to see MM from their own perspective instead of watching them wipe enemy PuGs. Anyway, don’t know why you are trying, people always gonna whine cause bad. Warrior is the beefiest profession for the least effort of all. Only things that come close are well played Guardians and Mesmers(so far I’ve seen like 2 of these.) Shout builds are amazing for WvW, although I prefer Fear Me over On my mark. Here’s my own contribution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWCXRTvwP18&feature=plcp

Really enjoyed your video. That last scene is quite impressive, you guys work well with the terrain; that high ground destroyed them. I found it pretty funny how the 20 of them ran away as you 5 came down the hill. What server are you on?

^Piken square, same as MM.

@above mars – ty. Axe works fine, I just prefer mace for defensive & debuff (spammable aoe weakness on 1, block on 2 and daze on 3).

Horn / sword aren’t that important, you should mostly be using it for mobility and horn skills, not actual fighting (besides snaring someone and switching back to mainhand).

As for rune of the soldier, the 6 piece that makes your shouts clean conditions also applies to your allies, meaning when you spec healing shouts you are both cleansing and healing your allies at the same time. Shake it off for example removes 2 conditions after you get the full 6 piece rune-set, which is why I find it to be the strongest runeset for a support shout build.

I hate to burst your bubble because it is a well made PvP video and all, but these people you’re up against are pretty bad. I went and checked, and it does turn out that Drakkar’s Hold and Whiteside Ridge are two of the lowest ranked WvW servers in the world. This isn’t indicative of individual skill, but it does indicate that these servers have less than ideal coordination. It really shows in these videos; half the time you run into a large group of people and only 3-4 of them even end up attacking you. I don’t see why you bother to build tanky; if I had the luxury of only being attacked by a fifth of the enemy while charging in I’d build full glass cannon and kill half of them before they even notice me.

What I’m trying to say is that your opinion of viable warrior builds doesn’t hold much relevance if these are the kind of people you go up against. When someone from a top-ranked server says they don’t feel warrior has any good WvW builds (I don’t agree with this personally, but people do make some good arguments), you should lend them some more credence instead of this sarcastic drivel you have in your video. Chances are they have a more profound WvW experience than you. You just seem to stomp baddies with a coordinated guild.

On a lighter note, I do think your build is good.

Eh what? The “top rated” servers are usually the most active servers, shocking coincidence I’m sure. Implying zergs on one server are better than zergs on another is pretty hilarious to me, pubs will always be terrible and stomped by organized guilds.

The only thing that makes one server ranked above another isn’t that their mindless zerg is more talented, it’s that they have more people in wvw all the time. If you’re looking for pvp where individual skill matters go structured.

Okay, rather ordinary build, although you don’t really do anything spectacular. Playing Warrior in PvP, you’re generally going to either be spamming bow AoEs, trying to pick off escapees with your rifle, or just killing off NPCs with GS.

The most impressive thing you’ll likely ever see a Warrior do in WvW is, in a coordinated team of other Warriors, use Endure + Stability to rush into a group prior to load-in, and GS burst the area to clear a path, using either Fear Me or what have you to break up the formation. Even then, it’s not like you’re doing anythinkittenressive. You just use Endure Pain and run in blind, swinging at air and hoping someone is in front of you.

I don’t remember ever hearing anyone complain about Warriors not being able to do enough damage either way. Their problem is that they can’t really get into the thick of things in WvW to DO that damage, most of the time. They can’t stealth out or use clones or what have you to get away. It’s just Endure Pain, run in, try to do about 4 seconds of damage, turn around, try to walk out of it. Unless you’re fighting a bad server. Then you can do pretty much whatever.

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Someone didn’t watch the video…

In the beginning of the video you mention damage. When in the video do you deal this damage?
All I see are red numbers flying up on the screen.

It’s a cool if you enjoy stacking toughness and vitality while running around using shield block whenever it’s up and occasionally hitting an enemy as you run past them.

You should not have had the intro you did imo because it can only lead to trolling. You say warriors complain about thief damage and then put out a video showing a warrior dealing close to the least amount of damage possible. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

It’s an impressive tank video.

@Nick – Ehh what? I don’t understand how you could so completely misunderstand the clip. The whole point of the vid was to show that doing big crits isn’t the only thing important in WvW, as I made the vid in response to multiple complaints about warriors not reaching the damage output my thief was reaching. (point being my thief could never reach the tankiness my warrior can).

I thought this point was obvious based on the description, intro and actual gameplay but I guess not.

Sorry, it isn’t obvious. Yes, you can, that’s great. Imagine this, not everybody knows who you are (myself included) so we haven’t all seen your thief videos, and maybe we don’t understand you’re trying to make a contrast/comparison and not say that warriors can lay down the nukes like a thief. Re-do the intro.

FUn to watch but you seem to just be a little wasp stinging people, which looks fun but not as effective as we’d all like to feel from a damage perspective.

Either way, I enjoyed the video once I realized what you were doing.

@Nick – Ehh what? I don’t understand how you could so completely misunderstand the clip. The whole point of the vid was to show that doing big crits isn’t the only thing important in WvW, as I made the vid in response to multiple complaints about warriors not reaching the damage output my thief was reaching.

I didn’t miss the point, but like I said, the intro misleads people as to what the point is.
“a lot of people started complaining about how unfair it is that they can’t do the same damage. The most vocal were the Warriors”. You follow this up by saying that you shouldn’t gear your Warrior like a thief if you want to be effective. This lead me to believe that you were going to be geared more hybrid and possibly out lasting people while still putting out decent numbers.
What I got in return though was a video of a pure tank build that relied completely on your group mates for any form of damage and healing.

With the video you basically made the statement “Warriors complained about my thief’s damage so here is a video showing how little damage a toughness/vitality warrior can take”.
The 2 things are completely unrelated which leads to the confusion.

Apologize for the confusion, I thought it was going to obvious what kind of build it was when people saw shield, 3 shouts and a banner equipped..

Tried it, it’s awesome, end of story.

Was roaming with a warrior with same setup and we defeated groups 2v5.

Could someone link the build he is using please? copying the link or clicking it doesn’t seem to work for me. Thanks

The link is broken for me too, but I run something similar so I get the synergies. Here’s the build as I understand it, based on the video and discussion:
http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/1443-tanky-shout-healer

What armor, weapon and dye was she using? I love it and I want to use it on my character.

Stanholo.5394:

The link is broken for me too, but I run something similar so I get the synergies. Here’s the build as I understand it, based on the video and discussion:
http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/1443-tanky-shout-healer

There is an overkill of condition removal there. Why would you want Turtle Defense? I feel it is better to have Missile deflection trait. This way, you can reflect rapid fire/Unload back at the Ranger and thieves.

Great video Flamu. I love the soundtrack.

NIck is right though. You’re in a highly organized group playing against weak players and you’re using a tank spec while your group kills everything. Don’t get me wrong it’s epic to watch but I’m sure you personally could make a vid with any class of any spec in that group and make it look powerful. That really has nothing to do with class balance. The best players will likely be better than weak players no matter what class they’re playing with.

I personally don’t have a strong opinion about Warriors atm because I haven’t done enough pvp yet but your intro seems to imply that Warriors shouldn’t complain about thieves because “look what I can do” on my warrior. Again I bet you could make a vid with any class of any spec and make it look really good.

Please also see: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Warrior-s-Role-in-WvW/first#post284284

Flamu it appears you have been figured out by more than just me now. You will now have to find a new way to get attention, though I know it won’t be through releasing skilled, relevant videos. And now, back to your regularly scheduled trolling…

Inb4 Challenger Flamu response.

Would you care to post a vid of you playing your spec and doing well then, against “proper” opponents Samuels?

I don’t desire e-fame like these people on here, because I am in touch with reality. But if I was far removed from it, as is apparent with said posters, I would certainly post vids. Anyone on HoD, SBI, JQ, or even ET knows what I’m talking about when it comes to facing decent opponents.

Oh, it’s not a matter of e-fame, it’s a matter of “credibility”. Anyone can come on a forum and go “ kitten you suck and your build sucks. My server is the best and I’m the best on my server.”
It would lend your trash-talking of the OP any sense of credibility if you posted a video demonstrating your superior skill, the superior skill of your opponents etc. If you are feeling shy, feel free to link to a vid in a pm to me and you have my word I won’t link it on this forum to prevent you from gaining any E-fame.
I would only use it for assessing whether or not to lend your attacks any credibility, or if you are just another bad player who’s mad at the OP for achieving something you can’t, regardless of its value.
Edit: Can’t type properly with this strict filter, this is silly.

Heru.5427:

Oh, it’s not a matter of e-fame, it’s a matter of “credibility”. Anyone can come on a forum and go kitten you suck and your build sucks. My server is the best and I’m the best on my server."
It would lend your trash-talking of the OP any sense of credibility if you posted a video demonstrating your superior skill, the superior skill of your opponents etc. If you are feeling kittenhough, feel free to link to a vid in a pm to me and you have my word I won’t link it on this forum to prevent you from gaining any E-fame.
I would only use it for assessing whether or not to lend your attacks any credibility, or if you are just another bad player who’s mad at the OP for achieving something you can’t, regardless of its value.

I’ve been discovered. I’m “just another bad player who’s mad at the OP for achieving something you (I) can’t”.

In reality, I’m the guy who has nothing to prove because I’m bad, get carried, and pay for rating.

I actually find humor in the white-knighting of a video wherein the poster kills nothing but upranked players. Thank you for the laughs!

PS: I’m shy.

I’m not white knighting, but do you expect me, or anyone for that matter, to take the words of some random guy on the internet who does absolutely nothing to back up his claim? I mean, it’s not hard to record some in game footage of you playing, converting it and then uploading it to youtube for everyone to see the alleged superior quality of you and your server.

I can conclude from your remedial reading skills that you do not understand the statements I made. It was you (Heru) who claimed I should display my skills to back up something that I never claimed I had (skill). I made the claim that is guy is fighting nothing but upranked no talent scrubs. If you made the assumption that I was claiming to not be a scrub, then that is your error.

Not every statement someone makes needs to be followed up with proof of their own credentials. The statement I made holds its weight because everyone can see that the opponents are sub-80. I don’t “expect me (you), or anyone for that matter, to take the words of some random guy on the Internet”. However, I did make the assumption that you could watch the video and conclude that the OP killed all 80s with green arrows next to their names.