So, what about LB warriors?
Running a DPS LB is not advised. Mainly because the base damage is subpar when compared to the condi damage it produces. There is a reason it is normally used with s/s. It stacks the burning to a duration level that the enemy must remove it or die.
Im not saying it is impossible but when compared to the burning damage. DPS LB is just not enough to make it a real threat.
Can you give me a suggestion of a build that uses the condition build then? It just feels that, from the glance at the skills, it feels like power build would do more than a condi build =/
playing condition war feels kinda awkward xD
Yeah I felt the same way. It is sort of out of the Warriors element to not use DPS style of damage or Burst. I use Rabid with my S/S LB build. I use Dire with my Hammer/LB build.
S/S LB = 0/30/20/0/20.This setup is a bit less forgiving if you mess up so play carefully.
Hammer/LB = 20/0/20/0/30. This setup is much more forgiving if you mess up but the damage is much much much less.
I tend to stay away from raw damage builds because they are easy to avoid IMO. Ive been killed by them but it isn’t too often for me personally. Then again I dodge more then a politic during election season so I tend to avoid being hit by telegraphed single target skills.
There are plent of setups out there that people use with LB because the Burst attack it has is so useful.
Well longbows for warriors revolve around using combustion shot more or less. Longbow, when not on a condition warrior, is more of a utility weapon than a damaging one. But with high crit/crit damage you could potentially see 1K auto attacks (if both hits crit for 500).
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAT5ZjkOZv9OyQMxBAMDtAz84nhKSfYOA-TgAg0CnIMSZkzIjRSjsGB
This is a build I came up with off the top of my head. It has up to 70% crit chance with 50% crit damage, 20% extra power with your dual maces if the target is weakened, and the longbow is good to kite your enemies and deliver long range damage if you are low on health, this build also gives you good amounts of vitality, and armor. The only thing this build seems to lack is condition cleansing. But I gave the build some melandru runes so it would not be so horrible. I am going to try this build myself to see if it is fun later. Hope you find out a solution to your problem.
EDIT: For some reason I did not see the WvW requirement, however, I am keeping this post up in case anyone is interested in the build I posted. I do not advise using this setup in WvW as it lacks some key aspects that would benefit individuals in WvW.
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Yeah I felt the same way. It is sort of out of the Warriors element to not use DPS style of damage or Burst. I use Rabid with my S/S LB build. I use Dire with my Hammer/LB build.
S/S LB = 0/30/20/0/20.This setup is a bit less forgiving if you mess up so play carefully.
Hammer/LB = 20/0/20/0/30. This setup is much more forgiving if you mess up but the damage is much much much less.I tend to stay away from raw damage builds because they are easy to avoid IMO. Ive been killed by them but it isn’t too often for me personally. Then again I dodge more then a politic during election season so I tend to avoid being hit by telegraphed single target skills.
There are plent of setups out there that people use with LB because the Burst attack it has is so useful.
May I ask how you usually play in WvW with your LB+S/S build? I’m just imagining that relying on just burn to deal damage cannot be very efficient in a bigger group/zerg.
I use Longbow for 5/3 (sometimes F1 beforehand) burst combo landing and usually 4/2 because it is still in cooldown on weapon swap. The autoattack ‘1’ is not advised unless you need it for the range (or specifically if you build for a Stronger Bowstrings/combo field team build) because LBs ‘1’ damage is really subpar (don’t be fooled by the crit numbers) even in a full power build due to cast time + travel time.
Generally speaking, building around a single weapon even if in it for 90% of playtime is a trap (exception is Thief with no cooldown on weapon abilities in lieu of initiative resource mechanic).
I go zerker LBow all the time in Spvp. I’d imagine it’d be ever better in wvw. 30/x/x/x/30.
Can you give me a suggestion of a build that uses the condition build then? It just feels that, from the glance at the skills, it feels like power build would do more than a condi build =/
playing condition war feels kinda awkward xD
sword sword / longbow
i’ve been away for a while so i can’t recall my traits
ik 30 in arms for deep cuts blade master and furious
20 in def to get cleansing ire and adrenal health.
i like condition warrior but only for wvw or spvp you’ll need to learn how the skills work with each other.
Playing Hammer/LB in large scale WvW with power/precision/critdamage/toughness gear, lately with <a href="http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIQQJASTjkOBvFPqQ4wBE0DNsK4CThfQ9YO2w4A-j0CBofAoiQEEAZmJL7cQslRFRjVXDT5SISFL1WdAGxKaSBwkwI-w">10/0/30/0/30</a> although 30/0/25/0/15 or 0/25/30/0/15 also work if you get hit enough to keep adrenaline up.
I treat LB as a melee weapon and stay with the melee train all the time. LB 3 and F1 are great AE damage skills, LB 4’s AE blind is also very useful. The guaranteed condition removal with LB F1 and Cleansing Ire helps a lot to stay alive. And when you’re not in melee range, e.g. after using mesmer portals and running in again, you can still deal damage. For me the LB works best of all weapons I tried in combination with Hammer.
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Dual Shot needs a major damage or speed increase for LB to be viable in most situations. Currently, it’s only good with certain setups under certain conditions.
GS/LB Zerk build is absolutely capable in SPVP and WvW:
20/0/20/0/30
LB #3 is your main power hit
LB #5 can be used to land 100b
LB burst is used for condi clear and added damage
I have been running a 0/20/30/0/20 with GS + LB for ages in WvW and haven’t had any problems…
The tick change on LB F1 was kind of annoying, but it is still viable none the less.
I’m with ulchanar; Longbow is a great power weapon in zergs for WvW. I run Longbow/Hammer when zerging and the swap out gear and traits and run LB/S-S for roaming; 0/30/25/0/15 for traits.
Arcing Arrow and Combustive Shot are fabulous AoE abilities on very short cooldowns; Longbow’s a great weapon anytime you can reliably hit 3+ people with its AoE abilities.