Guild Wars 2

online.1278:

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.

lol

Simple, don’t choose that trait. Be different.

IMO it is not OP…

online.1278:

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line

False. I use 5 roaming builds atm. Only 1 of the 5 builds is using berserkers power.

online.1278:

Nerf Berserker’s Power. It is OP.

I think this trait is actually more “A must have” trait than cleasing ire.
Absolutely OP.

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.

lol why would you nerf something was already nerf? do you even know how that trait worked before? I was a perma 20% buff with 3 bars and now only works for 10 sec after using a burts and IF it hits.

Being powerful isn’t the same thing as being a “must have”. Given the current state of insane damage across the board, it’s hard to see how BP could be considered overpowered though. It’s not as though people are complaining about warriors roflstomping their way through the competition.

Besides, several common builds don’t use the Strength line at all. I even saw a few people running Distracting Strikes over BP, probably for the initial lulz though because I haven’t seen any since just after patch.

I’ve run builds without CI too and have been fine (running one the last few days, in fact). Fast Hands appears to be the only indispensable trait, in that I haven’t played or seen a link for a build that doesn’t trait Discipline.

xbutcherx.3861:

online.1278:

Nerf Berserker’s Power. It is OP.

I think this trait is actually more “A must have” trait than cleasing ire.
Absolutely OP.

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.

lol why would you nerf something was already nerf? do you even know how that trait worked before? I was a perma 20% buff with 3 bars and now only works for 10 sec after using a burts and IF it hits.

it was 5/10/15% before. using one burst for every 10sec isn’t really nerf cuz you can use burst for every 5 sec whenever you swap. With longbow it is likely perma. So the duration time isn’t nerf. The prpblem is 5% higher, which is too much buff. I havent seen a war without this trait since patch.

online.1278:

xbutcherx.3861:

online.1278:

Nerf Berserker’s Power. It is OP.

I think this trait is actually more “A must have” trait than cleasing ire.
Absolutely OP.

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.

lol why would you nerf something was already nerf? do you even know how that trait worked before? I was a perma 20% buff with 3 bars and now only works for 10 sec after using a burts and IF it hits.

it was 5/10/15% before. using one burst for every 10sec isn’t really nerf cuz you can use burst for every 5 sec whenever you swap. With longbow it is likely perma.

LB doesn’t proc BP and when you use burst again it overlaps the other buff, if you had 3 bars and use it you get 20%, but if you swap and use it again with 1 bar or 2 it will use 10% or 15%.

online.1278:

xbutcherx.3861:

online.1278:

Nerf Berserker’s Power. It is OP.

I think this trait is actually more “A must have” trait than cleasing ire.
Absolutely OP.

This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.

lol why would you nerf something was already nerf? do you even know how that trait worked before? I was a perma 20% buff with 3 bars and now only works for 10 sec after using a burts and IF it hits.

it was 5/10/15% before. using one burst for every 10sec isn’t really nerf cuz you can use burst for every 5 sec whenever you swap. With longbow it is likely perma. So the duration time isn’t nerf. The prpblem is 5% higher, which is too much buff. I havent seen a war without this trait since patch.

just because everyone is using one trait = nerf, lol i guess we will nerf 70% of the stuff in game.

LMAO this guy.

BP is fine – also how can you claim you know what’s going on and not know that LB doesn’t proc it?
Not really a great way to prove your opinion matters.

even though it doesnt proc with Longbow, it is still OP becuz this means previously it didnt proc also before patch. 20% to 15% plz

People don’t seem to understand warriors. People say things need nerfed case they always see warriors with it. LB , shoutbow, CI , axe if you go back far enough. But the reason warriors always run the same things isn’t because they are overpowered it’s because everything else is under powered. LB and hammer are only good weapons with utility while still dealing decent damage. Axe just doesn’t have the damage to over come lack of utility. Nothing short of “to the limit” with shout trait is even close to healing signet and even then shouts r bad now. Warriors need buffs to underpowered weapons, skills, and trait not nerfs to ones already in line with what other classes have

Valik Shin.9027:

People don’t seem to understand warriors. People say things need nerfed case they always see warriors with it. LB , shoutbow, CI , axe if you go back far enough. But the reason warriors always run the same things isn’t because they are overpowered it’s because everything else is under powered. LB and hammer are only good weapons with utility while still dealing decent damage. Axe just doesn’t have the damage to over come lack of utility. Nothing short of “to the limit” with shout trait is even close to healing signet and even then shouts r bad now. Warriors need buffs to underpowered weapons, skills, and trait not nerfs to ones already in line with what other classes have

This game, in fact, changes too often and too much as compared to other esport game. If gw2 really want to success in esport, this is what they should avoid of actually. This kills users and their effort completely. If i were anet i would more focus on make new complete thing rather than nerfing stuffs, and buffs known weak stuffs. but what gw2 is nerfing strong one, make it completely un-useable, and make some stuffs super buffed. Compare it to league of legends or counter stirkes or wahtever, this is fact that it juat changes too much.

online.1278:

even though it doesnt proc with Longbow, it is still OP becuz this means previously it didnt proc also before patch. 20% to 15% plz

Before was permanent!@@ for god sake.

online.1278:

Compare it to league of legends or counter stirkes or wahtever, this is fact that it juat changes too much.

You should compare it to games with an equal amount of variables.

Orcinus Orca.8627:

online.1278:

Compare it to league of legends or counter stirkes or wahtever, this is fact that it juat changes too much.

You should compare it to games with an equal amount of variables.

well, yes…

online.1278:

Orcinus Orca.8627:

online.1278:

Compare it to league of legends or counter stirkes or wahtever, this is fact that it juat changes too much.

You should compare it to games with an equal amount of variables.

well, yes…

I’m starting to believe this is a troll thread, no one besides you believes BP is OP.

Haha you had me going there in the beginning! We warriors aren’t all too experienced with trolling because so few people care about us try a rampage thread next time! 8/10

TheDuck.4526:

Haha you had me going there in the beginning! We warriors aren’t all too experienced with trolling because so few people care about us try a rampage thread next time! 8/10

lol ok i will be deleting this thread!

online.1278:

TheDuck.4526:

Haha you had me going there in the beginning! We warriors aren’t all too experienced with trolling because so few people care about us try a rampage thread next time! 8/10

lol ok i will be deleting this thread!

Heck, even Signet Mastery would have been a better candidate.

How OP it is? That’s debatable. But it’s way better than before…. With burst mastery, you can now use it and gain the (new stronger) on subsequent bursts and keep uptime fairly easy. The only real issue atm that I see is a bug with LB. once that’s fixed, the new version is perfectly better as it retains the damage boost, but also promotes active play. So please, don’t say it got nerfed.

ronpierce.2760:

So please, don’t say it got nerfed.

It got nerfed — hard!

ronpierce.2760:

But it’s way better than before…. With burst mastery, you can now use it and gain the (new stronger) on subsequent bursts and keep uptime fairly easy.

Umm … are you aware that shortly after the 6/23 patch, they changed it so that the +20% for using 3 bars of adrenaline ONLY takes effect on hit? So, within a PvP / WvW context, with opponents that actually dodge, blind, block, etc., getting the bonus is not as easy as you make it sound.

perko.8309:

ronpierce.2760:

So please, don’t say it got nerfed.

It got nerfed — hard!

ronpierce.2760:

But it’s way better than before…. With burst mastery, you can now use it and gain the (new stronger) on subsequent bursts and keep uptime fairly easy.

Umm … are you aware that shortly after the 6/23 patch, they changed it so that the +20% for using 3 bars of adrenaline ONLY takes effect on hit? So, within a PvP / WvW context, with opponents that actually dodge, blind, block, etc., getting the bonus is not as easy as you make it sound.

So it got some risk/reward thrown on it. Good. It’s still ‘technically’ stronger, and in PVE/WVW (non 1v1) you should have little trouble getting it to proc, same with any size team fight. Absolutely nothing wrong with a little counter play to it, though, it doesn’t ruin the skill, and doesn’t change the other benefits. It’s different, and not as ‘easy’, I’ve give you that, but it’s still very strong. Or at least, will be once they fix it with Longbow, which as we all know, will proc it 100% of the time.

Overall Berserker Power is stronger, in WvW/PvP at least. In PvE it got nerfed. People barely went 6 in Strength anyway for PvP/WvW builds except for a few axe builds. You can’t say that the old Berserker’s Power was stronger because the damage didn’t apply to Eviscerate and generally you want to land as many eviscerates as possible rather than holding on to the adrenaline just for the damage (although you would do so in between). That and you want to proc Cleansing Ire for condition removal. The two traits essentially conflicted with each other

With the new Berserker’s Power, it does NOT conflict with Cleansing Ire at all. Spending adrenaline successfully clears conditions and gives you the damage buff if you trait both. So it is definitely better. That and you can potentially have 100% uptime on the damage buff.

With weapons like Axe, Mace and Sword it might be somewhat difficult to land. But with Greatsword, Hammer and Longbow (once they fix the bug) it actually isn’t difficult to get the damage buff. And almost every single build contains at least one of these weapons.

It is strong YES, is it OP? I’m really not convinced at the moment although it is strong enough that one would not even think of using the other grandmasters. It will probably be toned down sometime in the future.

In pve it got nerfed <— Not true.

I’m not even sure what logic you used to come up with that. It’s 100% uptime of 20%+ damage and now you can spam your burst skills too. If you spam arcing slice it provides perma-fury and good damage (especially against foes at <50%) or eviscerate for extremely high single target burst.

The old zerker power was 15% extra damage, but you couldn’t use your burst skills and keep the modifier. So the new berserker’s power is 5% more damage + spammable burst skills.

No

it was originally 25% at the release of the game and got nerfed to that kitten 15%.
20% is fine, especially with the rework.
stop complaining when most classes are part of the power creep.
This has been the first buff warrior has had in almost 2 years, we needed it.

Bee.6239:

No

it was originally 25% at the release of the game and got nerfed to that kitten 15%.
20% is fine, especially with the rework.
stop complaining when most classes are part of the power creep.
This has been the first buff warrior has had in almost 2 years, we needed it.

I literally have no clue who this Bee guy is but i kittening love him and i agree with everything he has to say.

Bee.6239:

No

it was originally 25% at the release of the game and got nerfed to that kitten 15%.
20% is fine, especially with the rework.
stop complaining when most classes are part of the power creep.
This has been the first buff warrior has had in almost 2 years, we needed it.

WTF are you talking about – it was never 25% increase. It was 3/6/9% at Adept tier trait pre-June 2013.

June 23, 2015 – Patch #3
Professions
Warrior

Berserker’s Power: You are now required to hit with the burst skill. This will trigger in the same way as the trait Cleansing Ire.

June 23, 2015
Balance, Bug-fixing, Polish
Warrior
Traits
Strength Minor

Berserker’s Power: Gain a 10%, 15%, or 20% damage boost for 10 seconds after using a burst skill based on how much adrenaline was spent.

23 July 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior

Berserker’s Power: This trait now applies the appropriate damage increase per adrenaline level.

25 June 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior

Strength

Berserker’s Power: This trait has been moved to the Grandmaster tier. Damage bonus has been increased to 5%, 10%, and 15% based on adrenaline level.

killahmayne.9518:

With the new Berserker’s Power, it does NOT conflict with Cleansing Ire at all. Spending adrenaline successfully clears conditions and gives you the damage buff if you trait both. So it is definitely better. That and you can potentially have 100% uptime on the damage buff.

^ This. The new Berserker’s Power doesn’t conflict with the nigh-required Warrior Trait for PvP/WvW. Unfortunately due to the September 2014 changes, Warrior need to have an immediate ( Berserker’s Stance / Signet of Fury / “To The Limit!” ) Adrenaline gain followed by a high-uptime with Adrenaline creation like Cleansing Ire and Furious traits.

This means generate it quick, get it to land, profit. In PvP/WvW, that’s not always really possible so Warriors feel weak.

Artaz.3819:

Bee.6239:

No

it was originally 25% at the release of the game and got nerfed to that kitten 15%.
20% is fine, especially with the rework.
stop complaining when most classes are part of the power creep.
This has been the first buff warrior has had in almost 2 years, we needed it.

WTF are you talking about – it was never 25% increase. It was 3/6/9% at Adept tier trait pre-June 2013.

June 23, 2015 – Patch #3
Professions
Warrior

Berserker’s Power: You are now required to hit with the burst skill. This will trigger in the same way as the trait Cleansing Ire.

June 23, 2015
Balance, Bug-fixing, Polish
Warrior
Traits
Strength Minor

Berserker’s Power: Gain a 10%, 15%, or 20% damage boost for 10 seconds after using a burst skill based on how much adrenaline was spent.

23 July 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior

Berserker’s Power: This trait now applies the appropriate damage increase per adrenaline level.

25 June 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior

Strength

Berserker’s Power: This trait has been moved to the Grandmaster tier. Damage bonus has been increased to 5%, 10%, and 15% based on adrenaline level.

brobrobro, 9% is for heightened focus, 12% for zerker power

I prefer 150 ferocity for my axe.

Personal liking.