Guild Wars 2

This will greatly improve the quality of life for all greatsword warriors. Over the last few patch, warriors has been hit pretty hard. Over-nerfed in my opinion. Arching slice was disappointing. 100blades and whirlwind damage nerfed was uncalled for. Warriors are suppose to be known for their high dps but now they are below average.

Speeding up the cast time of 100blades by even a little bit would make Greatsword viable in pvp. I am not asking for Rapid fire type of boost, something like 1 second off the cast would be nice.

Hi i am top100 warrior in leaderbaord. So i will tell you based on my a lot of pvp experience. GS/lb is currently one of best weapon set for warrior. plz try practicing hitting more with 3,4th skillls rather than 100b. also, arcing slice is OP becuz it is moveable : you cannot move while casting flurry, so missing lot becuz today’s player are very skilled to easily cure immob so fast, even though fully hit, flurry without deep cut trait is trash no dmg at all. And this arcing slice gives you plenty time of fury that you dont have for rest of battle signet’s cooldown time. Meanwhile, only 4 hit of 100b does more dmg than fully hit flurry, so be satisfied plz. Use 100b when they get purposely close to you or when you want some combo attack 100b with pin-down. whirlwind dmg still does like 3000~5000 on heavey type armor (probly 2500 toughness) so it is fine: dmg isnt that much reduced actually. gs is already viable in spvp, most people just use hambow instead becuz gs is a bit hard to use but if you can master this gs is very useful though, gs is kinda weapon for warrior experts: only does pretty nice only if you are very experienced. GS is in need of nerfing actually : removing moveable while casting arcing slice. Rather then gs, they have to buff off-hand mace, and rifle and warhorn. gs is much more viable than weapon listed i above.

Doon.2364:

This will greatly improve the quality of life for all greatsword warriors. Over the last few patch, warriors has been hit pretty hard. Over-nerfed in my opinion. Arching slice was disappointing. 100blades and whirlwind damage nerfed was uncalled for. Warriors are suppose to be known for their high dps but now they are below average.

Speeding up the cast time of 100blades by even a little bit would make Greatsword viable in pvp. I am not asking for Rapid fire type of boost, something like 1 second off the cast would be nice.

I agree, it would be a very good change, for me anet can even delete this arcing slice and buff hb and whirlwind.. Theres no reason to use this f1 skill.

Bartosz.2013:

I agree, it would be a very good change, for me anet can even delete this arcing slice and buff hb and whirlwind.. Theres no reason to use this f1 skill.

On the first bit, that’s not going to happen. They just debuffed those two skills, they aren’t going to buff them any time soon.

On the second bit, I disagree. I regularly use Arcing Slice in wvw post patch. Why? Because 3-6k on five targets no matter which way I’m facing and while moving is awesome. Plus 15s of fury and a pretty much guaranteed condi cleanse from CI? Yes please.

Sure, it doesn’t hit as hard as Eviscerate, but the total damage when surrounded by targets is better than Eviscerate, Whirlwind, and anything you’re likely to get with 100b (unless you can get multiple targets to stand there and eat the whole thing).

Just fix rush and it’s fine.

make HB non-root

Fixed, GS OP, new meta

Gamgee.8612:

Just fix rush and it’s fine.

^This
And Bulls charge. Why not Salvage Leap too?

Kitt.2567:

Hi i am top100 warrior in leaderbaord. So i will tell you based on my a lot of pvp experience. GS/lb is currently one of best weapon set for warrior. plz try practicing hitting more with 3,4th skillls rather than 100b. also, arcing slice is OP becuz it is moveable : you cannot move while casting flurry, so missing lot becuz today’s player are very skilled to easily cure immob so fast, even though fully hit, flurry without deep cut trait is trash no dmg at all. And this arcing slice gives you plenty time of fury that you dont have for rest of battle signet’s cooldown time. Meanwhile, only 4 hit of 100b does more dmg than fully hit flurry, so be satisfied plz. Use 100b when they get purposely close to you or when you want some combo attack 100b with pin-down. whirlwind dmg still does like 3000~5000 on heavey type armor (probly 2500 toughness) so it is fine: dmg isnt that much reduced actually. gs is already viable in spvp, most people just use hambow instead becuz gs is a bit hard to use but if you can master this gs is very useful though, gs is kinda weapon for warrior experts: only does pretty nice only if you are very experienced. GS is in need of nerfing actually : removing moveable while casting arcing slice. Rather then gs, they have to buff off-hand mace, and rifle and warhorn. gs is much more viable than weapon listed i above.

Before you try to hit a flurry,make sure he wasted all his evades and you immobi with leg specialist or a cripple or a kd first,you very experienced top100 rank warrior ! Also flurry isnt about it’s damage…You use it primarily to immobi and for final thrust to land on 50% hp.The bleeding duration from flurry is not long enough to trait Deep cuts for the 50% extra bleed time which will make you go to 3.5 sec of bleed on flurry.Unless you run a full condi setup,you dont grab traits like that…but you as an self proclaimed experienced warrior,will probably know that..Right.

Caedmon.6798:

Kitt.2567:

Hi i am top100 warrior in leaderbaord. So i will tell you based on my a lot of pvp experience. GS/lb is currently one of best weapon set for warrior. plz try practicing hitting more with 3,4th skillls rather than 100b. also, arcing slice is OP becuz it is moveable : you cannot move while casting flurry, so missing lot becuz today’s player are very skilled to easily cure immob so fast, even though fully hit, flurry without deep cut trait is trash no dmg at all. And this arcing slice gives you plenty time of fury that you dont have for rest of battle signet’s cooldown time. Meanwhile, only 4 hit of 100b does more dmg than fully hit flurry, so be satisfied plz. Use 100b when they get purposely close to you or when you want some combo attack 100b with pin-down. whirlwind dmg still does like 3000~5000 on heavey type armor (probly 2500 toughness) so it is fine: dmg isnt that much reduced actually. gs is already viable in spvp, most people just use hambow instead becuz gs is a bit hard to use but if you can master this gs is very useful though, gs is kinda weapon for warrior experts: only does pretty nice only if you are very experienced. GS is in need of nerfing actually : removing moveable while casting arcing slice. Rather then gs, they have to buff off-hand mace, and rifle and warhorn. gs is much more viable than weapon listed i above.

Before you try to hit a flurry,make sure he wasted all his evades and you immobi with leg specialist or a cripple or a kd first,you very experienced top100 rank warrior ! Also flurry isnt about it’s damage…You use it primarily to immobi and for final thrust to land on 50% hp.The bleeding duration from flurry is not long enough to trait Deep cuts for the 50% extra bleed time which will make you go to 3.5 sec of bleed on flurry.Unless you run a full condi setup,you dont grab traits like that…but you as an self proclaimed experienced warrior,will probably know that..Right.

Hello!

I did not run full condi warrior first, and i always, or mostly, did final thrust with intellecture sigil as soon as immob with flurry as you mentioned but when i did that i was equipping sword/warhorn set, not full condi. But even though i
Inflict all flurry slashes + final thrust correctly, they still dmg lower than gs/lb set’s only elite, 2nd(4 hits) and 3rd skills in general and also, becuz i didnt have deep cut trait(flurry become trash without this trait). full condi isnt that much viable in these days since torment nerf patch anyway. Anyway I run gs/lb set right now. and now as you see arcing slice is over buffed, it does extra dmg upon enemy less than 50% health just like final thrust, and also arcing slice is currently moveable skill that you can move while casting. Too OP.

Here is my Dmg compare chart, (cele amulet, based on critical hit)

Sword warhorn (without deep cut):
Flurry – 2200dmg (1000 psysical, 1200 bleeding)
Savage leap – 1000 (but this skill is trash mostly not hit)
Final thrust – 2000 or 4000(upon less than 50%)

Theorical Total dmg – 5200 ~ 7200 dmg

Total dmg in real pvp situation – 0~1100(no dmg if i try to instantly do final thrust, or if i cast properly, half of flurry missing cuz todays player know how to cure immob fast) + 0(savage leap is trash becuz too easy to dodge or it just miss idk why though) + 2000 or 4000 = 2000 ~ 5100

gs/lb set
Arcing slice – 1800~ 3000(upon hp less than 50%)
100b (mostly able to make Only 4 hits of them) – 3000
whirlwind – 3000

Total dmg in theory – 7800 ~ 9000
Total dmg in real situatoon – in most cases, similar to above cuz arcing slice, 100b, whirlwind attacks are all instant skills that does as soon as i press button, not like final thrust that takes 1 sec to cast(experienced thieves can evade it easily), or flurry that i sometimes need to cancel to make final thrust hit, or savage leap that doesnt make even a hit not so that easy. (which means that it is easier to land “actual attacks” with gs than sword)

This is why i use gs set.

What i basically think is that anet need to buff main hand sword, and nerf deep cut for sword/warhorn users. (Well i dont go full condi war anyway, i am satisfied with gs/lb set now anyway. torment got nerfed, gs got buffed. right? simple)

And i am NA leaderboard top 19 right now. (probly no higher ranked warrior than me at the time I am writing this)

kk cya!

Kitt.2567:

Hi i am top100 warrior in leaderbaord. So i will tell you based on my a lot of pvp experience. GS/lb is currently one of best weapon set for warrior.

Lol, do you even hambow…

I agree that 100b cast time should be faster, if ranger’s rapid fire can be so fast and deal 7k dmg in so little time 100b should be faster too.

On my main acc I play GS/Longbow a lot in soloque around top ~30, and no, please don’t increase cast time. The whole point of it is that you need to find a way to land your burst this adds counterplay too.

There are many other ways to make the set better, like moving around some traits on the Strength line (the minor is is just useless and we have to put 4 points into that usually).

Or give 100b a 50% chance to block projectiles, so we can use it defensively while being kited.

Simon.3794:

Kitt.2567:

Hi i am top100 warrior in leaderbaord. So i will tell you based on my a lot of pvp experience. GS/lb is currently one of best weapon set for warrior.

Lol, do you even hambow…

You don’t need to run hambow in PvP. It’s just the go-to set for any warrior. It’s mostly the bow that’s too good to drop. Other than that you can do very well with another off hand if you know how to.

witcher.3197:

On my main acc I play GS/Longbow a lot in soloque around top ~30, and no, please don’t increase cast time. The whole point of it is that you need to find a way to land your burst this adds counterplay too.

There are many other ways to make the set better, like moving around some traits on the Strength line (the minor is is just useless and we have to put 4 points into that usually).

Or give 100b a 50% chance to block projectiles, so we can use it defensively while being kited.

All I’m asking is 1 second off the cast time. You’ll still need to setup the 100 blades if u want to land it so that doesn’t change. It would be awesome if 100blades has a 50% chance to block projectiles. Sorta make sense since we are swinging like a mad man.

If you think 3 to 4 hit of 100b is too low of damage follow up with AS, since you only need 1 bar and can move with your target while casting, its a high chance hit.

Before the AS buff I would agree to buff 100b, but with AS, I don’t think its needed.

100b cannot be reflected like Rapid Fire can.
100b does high enough damage for it require a setup.

That being said, im fine with approx. 0.5 sec reduction in channel/cast time. Maybe increase cooldown by 1-1,5 second to compensate.