Guild Wars 2

I’m looking some opinion/advice on which class to choose.
I’d like to base my choice on the use of great swords as I am on my way to making Sunrise.

How does gameplay differ from playing a greatsword with warrior compared to guardian?

Are their viable builds for warriors wishing to run great sword most of the time in fractals 30+

If you have any or could redirect me to videos featuring these playstyles I would be very grateful.

Cheers.

Warrior deals more damage, whereas Guardian provides more healing/support. Hope that helps.

I have been seeing some sick Guardians lately. I hope I made the right choice with my Warrior. 38 levels to go !

Warrior if you want to show off that weapon most of the time.
My guildy is a Guardian and he is constantly switching in order to support.
The only time I see a Warrior going ranged is in between bursts for some good LB damage or… in a ranged battle
It’s either GS or Axe/any for Fractals anyways, regardless of level.

I’ve only played guardian to 50 and my Warrior has only been 80 a couple weeks, so take that in mind.

I find the Warrior much more straightforward and single minded, but at the same time its weapon skills and abilities seem much more fleshed out. While the guardian abilities are more fun to use, they really aren’t all that effective.

The Warrior I find also has more useful weapons where the only ones I can’t really find a use for right now are off-hand sword and mainhand mace. Guardian you’re really forced into using the greatsword 100% of the time and you’re kind of stuck with the sword for the weapon swap because of the blink.

Guardians have much less health too. So if you get hit with aegis’ down you’re going to get flattened without knowing wtf happened.

Now that all said… go research a couple builds for each class, make a level 1, go to sPvP and get an amulet that supports each build the best it can and play both and see which you enjoy more.

You’ll almost certainly want to try the Warrior healing shout build as well as the guardian’s Healway build. But also try a pure glass-cannon build for each class.

The fact is, both of the classes are meant to be “high armor cough melee”, but they’re totally different. Warrior is a nice choice if you seek for something getting into the fight, killing the foe as fast as you can and getting hell out of there if anyone turns his foucs on warrior, while guardian is a class, which even in “GC” build can stay in the melee for ages, taking hit by hit, doing however moderate damage. My choice here would be a guardian, does less damage, has less health, but has great SUSTAIN, thing warror, especially GS zerker hasn’t. Be realistic, things which count in this game are condition removal and boons, alot of boons. Guardian, same like ele has both

Tough choice… I have both depends on what your play style/what you wanna do. A warrior does have some nice support with banners/shouts. Guardians can deal alot of dps with burning and retaliation. Guardians can constantly have healing,protection,or retaliation on depending on your build. If you want to know who would win in a fight equal ground.. The longer a fight drags on the more of an advantage a guardian has. Burst skills vs Guardian virtues I have to give it to the Guardian. Burst skills are almost useless depending on what build your running with a warrior unless your running axe/we. Guardians have alot of condition removal/boons and warriors have alot of CC compared to guardians. Warriors have almost no AOE if your running a GS build where a guardian always have symbols and slot skills that give you aoe’s. Warriors can have a good range attack with LB and rifle where the guardian has to use staff/scepter which are kinda lacking at the moment… Warriors are direct damage machines where guardians relay on using virtues,burning,and booning. Like I said it all depends on your play style but one profession isn’t really better than the other.

EDIT: Comparing defense abilites Guardian also gets it. Shield of the avenger,wall of reflextion ,and if your running a shield the absorbtion bubble that all protect allies. The warrior has one shield ability that allows him to block/reflect if you traited for it and it only protects the warrior.

As someone who has put in 1000+ hours into a Warrior and around 300+ into Guardian: Don’t do yourself the disservice of choosing a Warrior over Guardian.

Guardians are better support/sustain for groups/self and are a better class overall in comparison to Warriors. Warriors only have high damage that will get them no where in high level FotM or in sPvP/tPvP. In fact, Warriors have no place outside of Hot join sPvP for a reason. The Warrior class is crippled by most conditions (weakness/cripple/chilled/blind are the major ones).

Where as the Guardian profession is a NEEDED part of any tPvP set up. It is rare for a high level tPvP team to roll without a Guardian. In PvE 30+ FotM it is also rare for a group to roll without a Guardian.

Now with that said, I do enjoy my Warrior greatly even though they are sub-par as a profession in comparison to the others. If you are looking for a effective profession that is needed and has great ability to do whatever you want in the game… go with the Guardian. Warrior is fun to see big numbers, but outside of that they offer very little.

Please note: The Guardian is at a disadvantage when in a ranged fight. That is the only weakness they suffer as a profession. Specter is okay, but that will not compete with a Ranger shortbow/longbow.

Hope that helps.

Vanthian.9267:

As someone who has put in 1000+ hours into a Warrior and around 300+ into Guardian: Don’t do yourself the disservice of choosing a Warrior over Guardian.

Guardians are better support/sustain for groups/self and are a better class overall in comparison to Warriors. Warriors only have high damage that will get them no where in high level FotM or in sPvP/tPvP. In fact, Warriors have no place outside of Hot join sPvP for a reason. The Warrior class is crippled by most conditions (weakness/cripple/chilled/blind are the major ones).

Where as the Guardian profession is a NEEDED part of any tPvP set up. It is rare for a high level tPvP team to roll without a Guardian. In PvE 30+ FotM it is also rare for a group to roll without a Guardian.

Now with that said, I do enjoy my Warrior greatly even though they are sub-par as a profession in comparison to the others. If you are looking for a effective profession that is needed and has great ability to do whatever you want in the game… go with the Guardian. Warrior is fun to see big numbers, but outside of that they offer very little.

Please note: The Guardian is at a disadvantage when in a ranged fight. That is the only weakness they suffer as a profession. Specter is okay, but that will not compete with a Ranger shortbow/longbow.

Hope that helps.

Guardian’s have two weaknesses… Almost no range worth mentioning and only condition they can really apply is buring without sigils.. But I do agree warriors are loved in CoF but thats about the only dungeon that I belive requires them. Guardians have so many uses it is unreal.

The problem is that a Guardian is much, much better with S/Shield + staff in endgame.
GS Guardians are usually Warrior wannabes that are basically getting carried.
Plus Guard gets more ePower with RH-Strength and Sword than GS so even from a DPS perspective GS isn’t the best deal.

Go Warrior if you want to use a GS in endgame.

Excuse me, but why Hammer option is not considered in weapon side comparison of these classes?

Vanthian.9267:

As someone who has put in 1000+ hours into a Warrior and around 300+ into Guardian: Don’t do yourself the disservice of choosing a Warrior over Guardian.

Guardians are better support/sustain for groups/self and are a better class overall in comparison to Warriors. Warriors only have high damage that will get them no where in high level FotM or in sPvP/tPvP. In fact, Warriors have no place outside of Hot join sPvP for a reason. The Warrior class is crippled by most conditions (weakness/cripple/chilled/blind are the major ones).

Where as the Guardian profession is a NEEDED part of any tPvP set up. It is rare for a high level tPvP team to roll without a Guardian. In PvE 30+ FotM it is also rare for a group to roll without a Guardian.

Now with that said, I do enjoy my Warrior greatly even though they are sub-par as a profession in comparison to the others. If you are looking for a effective profession that is needed and has great ability to do whatever you want in the game… go with the Guardian. Warrior is fun to see big numbers, but outside of that they offer very little.

Please note: The Guardian is at a disadvantage when in a ranged fight. That is the only weakness they suffer as a profession. Specter is okay, but that will not compete with a Ranger shortbow/longbow.

Hope that helps.

Sorry but I disagree. So I will start how you started your thread. Warriors also have support if they want. Ever heard of shouts and banners? Also what if the guardian your with is running dps build and cares nothing for support? Whilst guardian is “supporting” should not someone …ahem warriors….do the damage.

How are warriors crippled by conditions!!! LOL I eat them for dinner with mending and shake it off every 5-10 seconds between them. As far as “seeing big numbers” is it not nice seeing the enemies hp bar fall quicker? Not only can warriors do damage but we can survive it. Equip Knights gear with some crit dmg here and there and MAYBE a lil vit….we are machines. Go to Guardian Thread guardian troll.

Play what you think is more fun. Both guardian and warrior are needed since they both offer different stuff. Guardian is more support, their damage is crap compared to that of a warrior. GS on a warrior is probably more fun, since guardian has more uses with different weapons. But GS can get a little boring though, on both warrior and guardian.

I would go with a Warrior. I have played my 80 warrior a ton along with many other professions. The thing that is awesome about warriors, is they have a TON of options for how to play them. I keep coming back to my warrior because I can change his traits, weapons, armor, and slot skills and I feel like I have a completely different class on my hands.
The GS is a warrior best weapon and I use it in most of the builds I run. If it is not the focus of the build, it is a great secondary weapon since it has 2 escape moves, a cripple, and a high dps.
Plus, Whirlwind looks BOSS with a Legendary sword.

salameri.3768:

Vanthian.9267:

As someone who has put in 1000+ hours into a Warrior and around 300+ into Guardian: Don’t do yourself the disservice of choosing a Warrior over Guardian.

Guardians are better support/sustain for groups/self and are a better class overall in comparison to Warriors. Warriors only have high damage that will get them no where in high level FotM or in sPvP/tPvP. In fact, Warriors have no place outside of Hot join sPvP for a reason. The Warrior class is crippled by most conditions (weakness/cripple/chilled/blind are the major ones).

Where as the Guardian profession is a NEEDED part of any tPvP set up. It is rare for a high level tPvP team to roll without a Guardian. In PvE 30+ FotM it is also rare for a group to roll without a Guardian.

Now with that said, I do enjoy my Warrior greatly even though they are sub-par as a profession in comparison to the others. If you are looking for a effective profession that is needed and has great ability to do whatever you want in the game… go with the Guardian. Warrior is fun to see big numbers, but outside of that they offer very little.

Please note: The Guardian is at a disadvantage when in a ranged fight. That is the only weakness they suffer as a profession. Specter is okay, but that will not compete with a Ranger shortbow/longbow.

Hope that helps.

Sorry but I disagree. So I will start how you started your thread. Warriors also have support if they want. Ever heard of shouts and banners? Also what if the guardian your with is running dps build and cares nothing for support? Whilst guardian is “supporting” should not someone …ahem warriors….do the damage.

How are warriors crippled by conditions!!! LOL I eat them for dinner with mending and shake it off every 5-10 seconds between them. As far as “seeing big numbers” is it not nice seeing the enemies hp bar fall quicker? Not only can warriors do damage but we can survive it. Equip Knights gear with some crit dmg here and there and MAYBE a lil vit….we are machines. Go to Guardian Thread guardian troll.

I weighed them equally and I have to mostly agree with you. But guardians are built for support. Warriors do have banners/shouts but that takes away from other utilites that they need for CC /dps/survival buffs. And warrior defensive abilites are almost non-existent compared to a guardians. The warrior has a very good advantage in range, warriors naturally have more hp,and can apply bleeding like a machine. The guardian relies on virtues,ret,protection,regen, and all around buffs. Guardians do have nice aoes and condition removal but no real CC to speak of.. Which yet again a warrior has to give up utilites for condition removal that they need for that where it goes right along with mostly any guardian build. And guardians can run GS just fine in some cases it is more useful than warriors GS because of wrath and binding chains. The warrior has 100 blades which is most likely one of the most devastating moves in the game but you have to root your feet to use it. What really sets the warrior and guardian apart are burst vs virtues. If your running a GS you will most likely never use a burst skill as a warrior because you need all that adren. Now the warrior axe/we burst is the highest attack in the game TO MY OPINION. You don’t want to get hit by it. The Guardian virtues are useful free blocks,regen,and set enemies on fire. I am a fan of both and a warrior can beat a guardian and a guardian can beat a warrior. It just sounds like your a heavy warrior fan and thats fine my main is a warrior but I am really enjoying the Guardian atm.

salameri.3768:

Random pro Warrior stuff….

You are deluding yourself thinking the Warrior profession in any roll can stand against any of the Guardians’ rolls in sPvP. Guardians can out perform any Warrior in any sPvP situation. It takes a pretty bad Guardian to lose to a Warrior.

The only time a Warrior will ever outdo a Guardian is in PvE on direct damage. It is very simple to see and understand but people refuse to accept this simple truth. Go stroll through the sPvP thread and you will see this opinion form the majority of people there. Only PvE people tend to think that the Warrior profession is “balanced” and right with the world. Why is that you may ask? Everything is OP in PvE. You can literally auto attack through most zones, so of course most people would assume the Warrior profession is good since it has some of the highest auto attack damage… but sadly auto attacks do no make for great class balance.

Vanthian.9267:

As someone who has put in 1000+ hours into a Warrior and around 300+ into Guardian: Don’t do yourself the disservice of choosing a Warrior over Guardian.

Guardians are better support/sustain for groups/self and are a better class overall in comparison to Warriors. Warriors only have high damage that will get them no where in high level FotM or in sPvP/tPvP. In fact, Warriors have no place outside of Hot join sPvP for a reason.

The Warrior class is crippled by most conditions (weakness/cripple/chilled/blind are the major ones).

Where as the Guardian profession is a NEEDED part of any tPvP set up. It is rare for a high level tPvP team to roll without a Guardian. In PvE 30+ FotM it is also rare for a group to roll without a Guardian.

Now with that said, I do enjoy my Warrior greatly even though they are sub-par as a profession in comparison to the others. If you are looking for a effective profession that is needed and has great ability to do whatever you want in the game… go with the Guardian. Warrior is fun to see big numbers, but outside of that they offer very little.

Please note: The Guardian is at a disadvantage when in a ranged fight. That is the only weakness they suffer as a profession. Specter is okay, but that will not compete with a Ranger shortbow/longbow.

Hope that helps.

I disagree with some points and agree with others.

Guardian indeed has better support, sustain, survival and staying power, and yes they are more required than any other class in high-end PvE (but that’s because Anet made Monk again, it’s unrelated to Warriors) but they fall way behind Warriors on damage, mobility, offensive support, spike, ranged and other things.

In PvE Warriors are most wanted due to our big DPS and Fury we give to the team which greatly increase team’s DPS.
Sure you could do frac 48 with 5 guardians and take forever, or 1 guardian 4 warriors and end it in 20 minutes.
Even 1 guard +4 random classes will take a lot if there is no Warrior.
In the end Guardian is needed for the 2-3 protection buttons. If other classes could stack protection we wouldn’t need a Guardian even in frac50.

In WvW we can jump into 10 people and down 3 in one second, haste-stake one and leap away unharmed – if you try this with a Guardian you might get one down but the other 9 are melting you into the ground and there is nothing you can do about it.
Commanders send Warriors to flank with HB to down a few people before they launch the assault, they don’t send a Guardian.
We also do well on walls and under walls.

In sPvP we suck because we don’t have a bunker build, but we roam decently.
We would roam pretty good if we were given more sustain.
We’ll see how we do when they add anti-bunker to us, pretty sure you bunker guardians will get melted by the new meta.

Warrior has a guaranteed slot everywhere but in sPvP (for now).

I have tried to force myself to like my Guardian for months but honestly not everyone is into supporting and I for one have more fun spiking stuff for bazillions in seconds while flying through the battlefield than hitting stuff with a stick for nothing and spam protection/shields.
I only login my Guardian when I get those fail PuGs and I need to carry them, that’s about it.

My point being, what is needed for FotM and what is only there to make it slightly faster but can not do it by themselves?

Red Falcon.8257:

Sure you could do frac 48 with 5 guardians and take forever, or 1 guardian 4 warriors and end it in 20 minutes.

The fact that you only need one guardian just proves the fact further that their support is completely out of wack in comparison to Warriors.

Warriors might bring a little more damage than other classes, but their ability to survive in comparison is hideous. I would take 80% of their damage for 300% of the ability to survive any day. There is a reason that Warriors are not asked for in most places besides CoF.

Red Falcon.8257:

In WvW we can jump into 10 people and down 3 in one second, haste-stake one and leap away unharmed -…

If by unharmed you mean swamped then yes. You do not jump into 10 people and live as a Warrior. That is a ideal situation with culling carrying you out which might happen once out of one million “jumps”. Only a Thief and bunker Elementalist can jump into group of 10, down and kill people, and get out clean. Guardian can easily take on 2-3 people at a time but will have a hard time killing any of them if they are smart.

Red Falcon.8257:

I only login my Guardian when I get those fail PuGs and I need to carry them, that’s about it.

Shot your own argument down right there…..at the end too.

They already nerfed guardians as I recall by lowering there hp down to an eles. Imagine a guardian with the base hp as a warrior lol. Warriors do have the most hard hitting moves in the game only a thief could really argue other wise. But what about all that ret that guardians put out? O you popped a 100b let me counter with stand your ground. And I do agree with you guys on one big things that warriors need more defense abilites. I mean seriously one move with your shield that just protects the warrior…. Sure the devs could argue that they have CC and banner of d/endure pain but that in no way compares to a guardians arsenal of defense slots,prot,ret,and regen that just stay on….