Personally run the generic GS/Rifle Glass Build. I have gotten quite used to knowing and abusing GS 3 and 5 to go in or retreat (Always find it fun to escape with 5, really positional but good speed to run with). When going my banner I simply run MaceHorn/Rifle, though I have had to touch on Longbow for the ranged instead for sieges. I run mace purely for the devilish power of dazing an opponent, seems to be the only thing that stops a spinning thief trying to kill my yaks. With in banner I enjoy running three banners and a shout, it imo is probably the most useful utility you could run on a warrior…the only utility though
I would rather not go ranged build, but it wouldn’t be too hard to switch with my current gear (currently at 60% Crit Damage and around 48% Crit Chance, plenty of power, even more so with stacks). I have just a tiny bit of Toughness and Vit to fine-tune the edges and slightly longer survival in zerg v zerg scenarios (Noting from T3hsanny’s gear he has significantly more crit damage, but I can see the vit difference).
Yes, I realize that there are terrific warriors. But I disagree, I don’t think Warriors have quite their place yet, they could use many Quality of Life changes and bug fixes. And rather than ignoring this and posting ‘classy’ like Lighter I would rather hear back from the Warrior community whether they agree with you in full or not. I just see the utility of other Professions far more prevalent and useful inherantly without even speccing for it than with us, who have to dedicate to a build that ultimately eliminates most of our combat potential to gain that same utility.
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Warriors are the brains of the battlefield. They, though not entirely strong, are the jack of all trades. Able to support, lead, and get things done, but not alone. I can say this with respect to almost all of the professions, but this is where we truly shine.
As a warrior, I’m usually at the frontlines and those behind me follow suite, and with my confidence, standing in the middle of fire and swarm of enemies, they gain confidence to fight.
I haven’t met a class, now, that can kill me 1v1 or 1v3. Though I can’t kill them, I’m able to call for backup and wipe things.
It’s because we can stop, heal, and take damage that we’re necessary in WVW. PVE wise, never had problem with this. It is easy. >3<
Take the notion of being a super killer, but the brains behind the result.
Just practice your warrior in ways you never thought of now. ;3 You’ll find a way to shine.
I’m a hammer warrior/sword and horn. And sometimes, an axe and mace/sword warhorn build.
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It’s unfortunate to read that you’re not enjoying the warrior due to bugs. Sadly all classes have them. If you haven’t played a guardian, I will tell you it is very hard to build a guardian like a dps warrior. I don’t expect to mimic the same damage output but I would at least like to feel close with having almost 8k less health but boons to make up for it. Doesn’t always work out that way. To be honest, I wish I could trade my 80 thief for a warrior since the thief class is so cliche and based around a faulty culling system(played stealthers since DAoC, god I miss my infiltrator…).
My warrior will have a gear set built for doing crazy damage like T3hsanny as well as a full PVT set rolling either shouts or banners as I lead the wedge into the zerg causing mass chaos with my hammer and knockdowns, fears, and knock backs. That’s the utility I want to be to my group. The guy that stirs kitten up and breaks their ranks.
We all have our play-styles. I think maybe you haven’t found your niche or are just having a hard time mastering it. You will get there in time and, Anet willing, the bugs/exploits will go away.
1. Guardian DPS… lol… if a Guardian could get anywhere close, as you seem to want, it would be rigged. Less health, yea, but the boons…. they more than make up for it in WvWvW.
2. Trade thief for warrior…. lulz..
Grass is always greener on the other side. Try a 80 warrior for a bit and you will immediately want to go back to thief. Thief is so potent and so much more survivability from simply going invis
3. That’s all good warrior is right now… in the mass. The moment you leave that Zerg, you’re done lol… unless you go Rifle warrior
but still… not even close to a shattercat mesmer… Once you get used to timings… it’s not uncommon to 1v5 opponents as a shattercat mesmer lol
They should change the name of our class to ‘Vulture’, currently the best thing to do as a Warrior is to keep an eye on the weak and defenceless swoop in to attack then get straight back out.
LOL, boomstick warrior for the win!
I love killshotting low HP people
KS KS KS
At first I thought this was an engineer flaming about the best PvE and sPvP-duel class in the game. I played on my warrior for about 700 hours now, so I’m in a position, to dissect your post:
You: an underwhelming performance in any PvP scenario.
Go try sPvP. I now played 150 matches on my warrior, and they are great at killing people in sPvP, where you will win every 1vs1 (elementalists excluded). Warriors might not be that versitile in WvW, but search for a zerg, take your GS out, press 3 and 2 and collect your loot.
You: nigh-unkillable annoyance[…]
Go to sPvP and defend B-spot. Bunker builds on a warrior aren’t that good in generals. Take your GS, go 20/30/0/10/10 and do some damage. What’s what warriors are designed for.
You: We suck.
Just to clarify: You are the one, who is flaming, so you suck. There are tons of guys playing warriors, and just a small part of them suck, as do you
You: Meh, my traits and utility skills are bugged
GO AND USE SOME OTHER BUILD, kitten !! Frenzy works fine, Endure pain works fine, the signets (Singet of Rage’s passive excluded) work fine, all shouts work fine, just Bolas and Bull’s Charge are a bit off, but by far not unusable.
You: Where is our Utility in WvW or SPvP?
Go…do…….flipping………..1vs1s GUY! That’s what warriors are for. You can hit upto 3 targets so make something out of that.
Conclusion: If you suck on your warrior, go play some other class. There are stil 7 remaining. Noone forces you to play warrior and suck at it.
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At first I thought this was an engineer flaming about the best PvE and sPvP-duel class in the game. I played on my warrior for about 700 hours now, so I’m in a position, to dissect your post:
Go try sPvP. I now played 150 matches on my warrior, and they are great at killing people in sPvP, where you will win every 1vs1 (elementalists excluded). Warriors might not be that versitile in WvW, but search for a zerg, take your GS out, press 3 and 2 and collect your loot.
Go to sPvP and defend B-spot. Bunker builds on a warrior aren’t that good in generals. Take your GS, go 20/30/0/10/10 and do some damage. What’s what warriors are designed for.
Just to clarify: You are the one, who is flaming, so you suck. There are tons of guys playing warriors, and just a small part of them suck, as do you
GO AND USE SOME OTHER BUILD, kitten !! Frenzy works fine, Endure pain works fine, the signets (Singet of Rage’s passive excluded) work fine, all shouts work fine, just Bolas and Bull’s Charge are a bit off, but by far not unusable.
Go…do…….flipping………..1vs1s GUY! That’s what warriors are for. You can hit upto 3 targets so make something out of that.
Conclusion: If you suck on your warrior, go play some other class. There are stil 7 remaining. Noone forces you to play warrior and suck at it.
Right, congrats. You might be the first person in this thread whose every point I highly disagree with. In fact, not just myself but many others as well that wish for warriors to not be in the spot they are at right now, quite literally the VERY bottom of the heap.
Yep I said it, Warriors are the lowest class, who only really shine in PvE. And by shine I mean play correctly in a fairly easy setting without the depth of Player versus Player of which every encounter could be different instead of scripted ‘you know what’s coming’.
First Point you made, “Warriors are great in sPvP” the problem with what you said, the biggest thing is the amount of matches you have played. See, you should really know this but every character starts out in the lowest ranking, where ‘new players’ and ‘experienced players’ meet. Greatsword believe it or not is heavily binary and although the build could easily stomp newbies who haven’t picked up on the amount of damage that sword could bring…eventually once you play about another couple hundred games, you start to notice it gets harder to even pull off a full 100b. ‘Oh well get better then!’ Yea true, but why do I have to play with checkers when thieves, elementalists and mesmers play with chess pieces? The analogy being that they get far more tools to work with while that greatsword build you rely on has one or two very important things to happen, a snare or a stun. And by god do other classes have stronger condition removal…
Oh, and if you don’t agree with me, try here. I am not alone.
Your second point shows something interesting, that you heavily favor us being a damage class compared to running the bunker. Again, I refer back to my first response, Greatsword losses effectiveness as you reach better players, better mechanics on other professions. Again, take another look on that thread, you might be surprised.
To Be Continued Below
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Warriors are the brains of the battlefield. They, though not entirely strong, are the jack of all trades. Able to support, lead, and get things done, but not alone. I can say this with respect to almost all of the professions, but this is where we truly shine.
As a warrior, I’m usually at the frontlines and those behind me follow suite, and with my confidence, standing in the middle of fire and swarm of enemies, they gain confidence to fight.
I haven’t met a class, now, that can kill me 1v1 or 1v3. Though I can’t kill them, I’m able to call for backup and wipe things.
It’s because we can stop, heal, and take damage that we’re necessary in WVW. PVE wise, never had problem with this. It is easy. >3<
Take the notion of being a super killer, but the brains behind the result.
Just practice your warrior in ways you never thought of now. ;3 You’ll find a way to shine.
I’m a hammer warrior/sword and horn. And sometimes, an axe and mace/sword warhorn build.
Warriors are not the jack of all trades o_o
They can build to fill any role yes, but they can never build to fit all roles, which is the “jack of all trades” the only builds I can currently think that does JoAT well is D/D ele with some condition damage, necromancer (although they suck donkey nuts at escaping ._.) and guardians.
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Warriors are the brains of the battlefield. They, though not entirely strong, are the jack of all trades. Able to support, lead, and get things done, but not alone. I can say this with respect to almost all of the professions, but this is where we truly shine.
As a warrior, I’m usually at the frontlines and those behind me follow suite, and with my confidence, standing in the middle of fire and swarm of enemies, they gain confidence to fight.
I haven’t met a class, now, that can kill me 1v1 or 1v3. Though I can’t kill them, I’m able to call for backup and wipe things.
It’s because we can stop, heal, and take damage that we’re necessary in WVW. PVE wise, never had problem with this. It is easy. >3<
Take the notion of being a super killer, but the brains behind the result.
Just practice your warrior in ways you never thought of now. ;3 You’ll find a way to shine.
I’m a hammer warrior/sword and horn. And sometimes, an axe and mace/sword warhorn build.
Warriors are not the jack of all trades o_o
They can build to fill any role yes, but they can never build to fit all roles, which is the “jack of all trades” the only builds I can currently think that does JoAT well is D/D ele with some condition damage, necromancer (although they suck donkey nuts at escaping ._.) and guardians.
You are contradicting yourself. Build to fill any roll and never build to fit all roles. And no a jack of all trade is build to fill ANY roll, but not have master on a single role.
Then again, maybe your playstyle is different to mine; so we are looking at two different perspective.
Definition of Jack of all trades as i use it – a person who can do passable work at various tasks : a handy versatile person.
Reference:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jack-of-all-trades
Just to note in the future, using dictionary reference for game terms is a pretty bad practice as many of the terms are often bent to fill the games criteria, for example “squishy” but I get your point.
We’ll let the arrangements of words deal with the desired intent play out when the time comes.
Made a new warrior today – purely for pvp purposes and leveling again. Can’t help it. I like this class. So far, I’m enjoying my simple long bow warrior. I didn’t know that you can combine two skills into almost one shot. like skill 3/4 or skill 3/2 or f1/4 f1/2 3/5 f1/5. Pretty fun.
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Made a new warrior today – purely for pvp purposes and leveling again.
I’ve always ran as a Rifle / Long Bow warrior. Why people might ask..
Simple. I love Archers. In real life I’m an excellent Archer and I love the idea of playing on in a Fantasy world.
Why don’t I play a Ranger you ask? I hate pets. Plain and simple.
Maybe that is why this patch doesn’t bother me like some others. I’ve never had a group complain with my Ranged Warrior so far.
EDIT : I actually rerolled myself today on Eredon Terrace since my brother plays there. Started a Human Warrior that will focus on Rifle/Long Bow just like my Asura did.
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