Guild Wars 2

There has not been a think you on this forum for a long time. And it’s about time. I have spent the day playing my warrior in WvW and PVP and have decided to post my thanks here.

for reference I have been running a Sword/torch, Longbow build with Arms, Defense, and Berserker. I’m running sinister Armor, Berserker Weapons, and Celestial Trinkets

Thank you Anet, the changes are much appreciated. Longbow bow does effective damage and I love the new adrenal health.

+1 here too. Combined with advancements on a number of other fronts with this patch, keep up the good work.

It indeed did something. I tested using defence and the new Demolisher amulet.
It felt better …. I still die to focus fast but it looks like my 1:1 capabilites are better. The new amulet fits the power based warrior well.

are u guys now enjoying the post patch Signets?
if so say thank you to Anet for me

This is not a thank you moment, ever warrior build will now need defense and beserker to play what ever build they want.

I have found rifle to be completely ineffective now, hammer is in the same spot. Now i feel even more forced to play a certain build. Ill point out that i mostly PvP and i am using the exact same weapon set as you.

I went s/t with longbow and i have had good success with my build but i am seeing that the difference between I and my opponent are so much so that other warrior builds might not compare.

Thats not build diversity, im strictly talking PvP. Before HOT warrior had 2-3 legit ESL level builds. Ele had 2-3 ESl level builds before they nerfed conjure weapons, ranger had 2 legit AG/ESL builds, etc etc etc

We are talking different runes, different specs and different PvP play styles. ATM even with this patch every class will have to take the same 2 specs to be competitive at a high level.

If you look at PvP right now, every team has to play the same way. Before HOT Radioactive use to play some really troll builds with 2-4 bunkers. ORNG won playing very DPS orientated style.

Right now its copy and paste, pick 1 team in the ESL and 5-6-7 teams will have the exact same comp with the exact same specs/ammy/sigil because this patch changed the meta but didnt create diversity or style of play.

Um. Giving us the sustian we need does create diveersity, because we have the freedom to swap out any two other trait lines and still be effective.

Warrior since release here ( only Warrior ). I couldn’t be happier with the changes to adrenal health. Many thanks to the dev responsible for implementing these changes. This is from a roaming WvW and PvP perspective.

Happy days.

Thank you a net.

I know I’m double posting, and bumping a post no one has responded too, but come one. More people need to thank Anet. Here I’ll change the Title of the Post.

This is so laughable

PvP is suppose to give alot of classes the ability to play different roles. Healer, sustain, bunker, dps.

We had this before HOT and it worked great for raned/unranked ques and you saw alot of builds in the AG/ESL leagues.

Ive already seen many people come up witht eh same build as I. Either running sword/torch or sword/shield with longbow.

Defense/displine/beserker with cleansing ire. Warrior got better ok, but did PvP situation get better?

Still no class diversity, people saying ohhh i can 1 vs 1 druids/revs/necros now. Yeah thats great that you can beat a crappy player on the elite class.

Keep bumping your own post but changing a meta to simply include a class and slowly demote 2 others with out looking into the power creep/ condi creep/ forced class play of condi mesmers and eles.

Simply giving warrior better healing didnt change the overall problem with PvP.

Wow. some people are never happy

exactly, i’m glad all the low end players enjoying the new warrior, but anet just doesnt get it. unless anyone prove me wrong with high end game play, until then warrior will be missing in pro league for the third season

Thanks for the adrenal health changes Anet, really fun to feel ‘tanky’ with full sinister gear in HoT maps now. Also for the survivality in those times I do sPvP

Thank you Anet.. =)

I wouldn’t congratulate arena-net so quickly. This patch finally addresses SOME glaring issues warriors have (after waiting for more than half a year), but it’s still the low quality patch I’ve come to expect.

(example: new adrenal health- just spam your burst to heal yourself, a bunch of cooldown reductions and more lazy number fixes)

Granted, it’s not AS low quality as arenanet’s previous patches, but that’s a pretty low bar to jump over. This patch continues the trend ArenaNet has come to develop: limited scope balance patches with heavily volatile meta shifts and lazy number fixes.

lighter.2708:

exactly, i’m glad all the low end players enjoying the new warrior, but anet just doesnt get it. unless anyone prove me wrong with high end game play, until then warrior will be missing in pro league for the third season

wow.
Just that you know a lot of teams are trying out warrior in scrims at the moment because of the non stacking rule.
So pls stop calling others low end players and stop talking about high end gameplay if you have in fact no idea about what is going on. Its way too early to judge about the viability of warrior currently

dominik.9721:

lighter.2708:

exactly, i’m glad all the low end players enjoying the new warrior, but anet just doesnt get it. unless anyone prove me wrong with high end game play, until then warrior will be missing in pro league for the third season

wow.
Just that you know a lot of teams are trying out warrior in scrims at the moment because of the non stacking rule.
So pls stop calling others low end players and stop talking about high end gameplay if you have in fact no idea about what is going on. Its way too early to judge about the viability of warrior currently

i don’t seriously care what you think, i also don’t care if teams are “trying out” and if by “trying out” you mean like some pro players playing the class just because the update i seriously don’t know , lastly i don’t care if i’m proved wrong, but as long as nothing is shown to me, there’s nothing

Then stop saying warrior is not used in top tier pvp if the people do not know it yet.
lol

dominik.9721:

Then stop saying warrior is not used in top tier pvp if the people do not know it yet.
lol

i know a thing is going to used in top tier if i see it, that’s the problem, there’s no stack rule, let’s say, rev, ele, mes, druid are going to be in the team, we can argue about druid, but there’s still necro, scraper, thief, dh that can take the last spot..and like seriously, what role a warrior can do better then these 4 classes? no roles
just because anet improved it’s survive by some, doesn’t make it a team wanted material, unless there’s some secret build that i don’t know of, which i seriously doubt, because the last patch changed nothing but improved some survive,

There are 9 classes and 5 spots on a team, guys.
Only because Warrior isn’t meta doesn’t mean it’s garbage.

The changes of the latest patch were definitely needed and appreciated, it’s a step in the right direction and shows that at least Anet cares.

They definitely didn’t fix the Warrior, but at least they made it playable. Here’s hoping they’ll keep giving the class attention moving forward.

lighter.2708:

dominik.9721:

Then stop saying warrior is not used in top tier pvp if the people do not know it yet.
lol

i know a thing is going to used in top tier if i see it, that’s the problem, there’s no stack rule, let’s say, rev, ele, mes, druid are going to be in the team, we can argue about druid, but there’s still necro, scraper, thief, dh that can take the last spot..and like seriously, what role a warrior can do better then these 4 classes? no roles
just because anet improved it’s survive by some, doesn’t make it a team wanted material, unless there’s some secret build that i don’t know of, which i seriously doubt, because the last patch changed nothing but improved some survive

You can say that it is used when you see it and you can say that it is not used when you dont see it in teams in the future . And since people are trying it out currently you cant make any statement yet. It is simply too early.
Shoutbow is as tanky as druid atm and provides also much better support than other classes you could take as 5th spot while burn warrior is a good alternative to scrapper and reaper.Those teams that dont have a thief main are trying warrior therefore.

dominik.9721:

lighter.2708:

dominik.9721:

Then stop saying warrior is not used in top tier pvp if the people do not know it yet.
lol

i know a thing is going to used in top tier if i see it, that’s the problem, there’s no stack rule, let’s say, rev, ele, mes, druid are going to be in the team, we can argue about druid, but there’s still necro, scraper, thief, dh that can take the last spot..and like seriously, what role a warrior can do better then these 4 classes? no roles
just because anet improved it’s survive by some, doesn’t make it a team wanted material, unless there’s some secret build that i don’t know of, which i seriously doubt, because the last patch changed nothing but improved some survive

You can say that it is used when you see it and you can say that it is not used when you dont see it in teams in the future . And since people are trying it out currently you cant make any statement yet. It is simply too early.
Shoutbow is as tanky as druid atm and provides also much better support than other classes you could take as 5th spot while burn warrior is a good alternative to scrapper and reaper.Those teams that dont have a thief main are trying warrior therefore.

Shoutbow might be as tanky as druid but the pets by themselves out damage shoutbow lol Not to mention there’s only so much need for more support than that. That fifth role will not be replaced by a support role. Not to mention shoutbow has absolutely no chance of replacing tempest, nor does DPS warr have any chance of replacing Rev, simply because rev offers better damage, better +1 potential, and insanely better support while playing a fully DPS oriented spec. Idk, I just don’t see anybody taking a DPS warr. A burnzerker does not have nowhere near the sustain pre-nerf scrapper had, nor the team utility.

Simply put, there’s STILL nothing warrior does better than most classes, other than dueling lol

We are talking about a 5th spot not about replacing an ele, a druid, a revenant or a mesmer which is used in the meta comp anyways.
But ye burn warrior is probably the better alternative than shoutbow, it was just an example, tho.

kdaddy.5431:

This is so laughable

PvP is suppose to give alot of classes the ability to play different roles. Healer, sustain, bunker, dps.

We had this before HOT and it worked great for raned/unranked ques and you saw alot of builds in the AG/ESL leagues.

Ive already seen many people come up witht eh same build as I. Either running sword/torch or sword/shield with longbow.

Defense/displine/beserker with cleansing ire. Warrior got better ok, but did PvP situation get better?

Still no class diversity, people saying ohhh i can 1 vs 1 druids/revs/necros now. Yeah thats great that you can beat a crappy player on the elite class.

Keep bumping your own post but changing a meta to simply include a class and slowly demote 2 others with out looking into the power creep/ condi creep/ forced class play of condi mesmers and eles.

Simply giving warrior better healing didnt change the overall problem with PvP.

Ye, first was happy for the change since we got competitive again. But i realised that it pushes war more to berserker, and one build. Ye adrenal suck, speci is still rotation spam, brainless and boring. Still want to see speci nerfs for all classes.

sirloin.9145:

kdaddy.5431:

This is so laughable

PvP is suppose to give alot of classes the ability to play different roles. Healer, sustain, bunker, dps.

We had this before HOT and it worked great for raned/unranked ques and you saw alot of builds in the AG/ESL leagues.

Ive already seen many people come up witht eh same build as I. Either running sword/torch or sword/shield with longbow.

Defense/displine/beserker with cleansing ire. Warrior got better ok, but did PvP situation get better?

Still no class diversity, people saying ohhh i can 1 vs 1 druids/revs/necros now. Yeah thats great that you can beat a crappy player on the elite class.

Keep bumping your own post but changing a meta to simply include a class and slowly demote 2 others with out looking into the power creep/ condi creep/ forced class play of condi mesmers and eles.

Simply giving warrior better healing didnt change the overall problem with PvP.

Ye, first was happy for the change since we got competitive again. But i realised that it pushes war more to berserker, and one build. Ye adrenal suck, speci is still rotation spam, brainless and boring. Still want to see speci nerfs for all classes.

Yep,

The worst part about this thread is many people dont care just as long as the class is viable to them.

I made it to legendary in season 1 partially using a core M/S- GS build which lead to people crying how bad beserker trait line was.

I made it in season 2 to legendary using condi till ruby and gun flame to Legendary. Anet with the patch literally killed any rifle builds, nobody cares. People have made comments as its a stupid build anyways.

Now all i see in from PvP warriors is either mace-shield/ sword-torch/ longbow and if you are not using these 3 you are under performing.

Before HOT you had options, for instance you could run a physical build for 1 vs 1. Mace/shield- great sword. Healing sigent, elite signet, bulls charge, the jump physical skill and beserker stance. This was a great 1 vs 1 build, then the meta hammer/greatsword dps, then shoutbow.

This was literally options for style of play with a certain build. When this patch happened and this thread popped up i honestly dont know if people got it that nothing changed.

Literally nothing except we can play a slightly more effective condi build.

Does it allow a potential clash in teams over style of play? NO

Does it allow for unique 2 vs 2 or 1 vs 1 build crafting? NO

Did it give us a better meta? NO

Does making it to legendary/Diamond/Ruby actually mean anything? Did we get a leader Board? Do we get to see who the Top MMR players are? Do we get unique items or skins?

Do people want to see different strats on rotations/build set ups/ team comps etc etc etc?

The answer is NO because nothing changed.

Please someone bump this thread some more so i can keep pointing out the things many PvP players want but have yet to get since the HOT expansion was released and the fact that many things were taken away and still not have been put back.

kdaddy.5431:

sirloin.9145:

kdaddy.5431:

This is so laughable

PvP is suppose to give alot of classes the ability to play different roles. Healer, sustain, bunker, dps.

We had this before HOT and it worked great for raned/unranked ques and you saw alot of builds in the AG/ESL leagues.

Ive already seen many people come up witht eh same build as I. Either running sword/torch or sword/shield with longbow.

Defense/displine/beserker with cleansing ire. Warrior got better ok, but did PvP situation get better?

Still no class diversity, people saying ohhh i can 1 vs 1 druids/revs/necros now. Yeah thats great that you can beat a crappy player on the elite class.

Keep bumping your own post but changing a meta to simply include a class and slowly demote 2 others with out looking into the power creep/ condi creep/ forced class play of condi mesmers and eles.

Simply giving warrior better healing didnt change the overall problem with PvP.

Ye, first was happy for the change since we got competitive again. But i realised that it pushes war more to berserker, and one build. Ye adrenal suck, speci is still rotation spam, brainless and boring. Still want to see speci nerfs for all classes.

Yep,

The worst part about this thread is many people dont care just as long as the class is viable to them.

I made it to legendary in season 1 partially using a core M/S- GS build which lead to people crying how bad beserker trait line was.

I made it in season 2 to legendary using condi till ruby and gun flame to Legendary. Anet with the patch literally killed any rifle builds, nobody cares. People have made comments as its a stupid build anyways.

Now all i see in from PvP warriors is either mace-shield/ sword-torch/ longbow and if you are not using these 3 you are under performing.

Before HOT you had options, for instance you could run a physical build for 1 vs 1. Mace/shield- great sword. Healing sigent, elite signet, bulls charge, the jump physical skill and beserker stance. This was a great 1 vs 1 build, then the meta hammer/greatsword dps, then shoutbow.

This was literally options for style of play with a certain build. When this patch happened and this thread popped up i honestly dont know if people got it that nothing changed.

Literally nothing except we can play a slightly more effective condi build.

Does it allow a potential clash in teams over style of play? NO

Does it allow for unique 2 vs 2 or 1 vs 1 build crafting? NO

Did it give us a better meta? NO

Does making it to legendary/Diamond/Ruby actually mean anything? Did we get a leader Board? Do we get to see who the Top MMR players are? Do we get unique items or skins?

Do people want to see different strats on rotations/build set ups/ team comps etc etc etc?

The answer is NO because nothing changed.

Please someone bump this thread some more so i can keep pointing out the things many PvP players want but have yet to get since the HOT expansion was released and the fact that many things were taken away and still not have been put back.

I literally agree with every point. I got suspended for my Warrior Rant where I mentioned this AH issue as a band aid and yet here we are, still people arguing Warrior Viability in spvp. There is NO BUILD DIVERSITY. Just the illusion. but no, according to others it’s an l2p issue and not with warrior itself.

Well, welcome to GW2 pvp. Every single class has one or at most two viable builds. We now do too.

HoT destroyed build diversity for almost every class, simply because all you have to work with are two traitlines. But here is the thing, this is true for all the classes and not a warrior specific issue.