Guild Wars 2

When I made my warrior a couple weeks ago I imagined myself being a frontline hack and slasher with one aim-… to fight and to kill (preferably with a large weapon or two small ones) sort of like what I’d expect a warrior to be out of any generic culture where the term “warrior” is used.

Instead I think I have created some sort of cleric or perhaps a combat medic. The only builds which seem to be working involve use of a bow and horn. The build “hambow” seems like it’s aim is to push the enemy away and shoot with the bow for damages rather than enjoying a bloody trade-off face to face.

Either way I’m shouting a lot, placing banners, and in many cases I’m actually doing more at a distance than I am up close.

I’m not even sure what rampage is supposed to do but nobody is using it. Signet of rage is making me run faster and buffing me up- but where is my hack and slash in your face warrior? Why has no one found an optimal build where warrior jumps in and wreaks havoc?

The only Warriors I see using a bow are the ones laying at my feet with their bow wrapped around their neck. Which are very rare since most of them are like rabid beasts flailing around a greatsword like its an… uhm… well, a flail.

If you’re not trolling, then visit the Warrior forums. Plenty of builds there for Warriors that want to leap into battle like the overgrown frogs they are.

Have you tried sword or axe in the main hand? That’s pretty much hack and slash in your face.

I’m sorry to hear you say that. I’m assuming you’re talking about pvp, in which case your assessment is fairly accurate. Pretty much all the effective pvp builds use a longbow, but they still involve plenty of melee fighting. I prefer using my warrior in WvW, as it is in my opinion much more fun. And if you’re not liking the meta shoutbow (or one of its many variants), you can always play traditional zerker warrior. You’ll die hella fast, but so will they. There’s also always condition warrior, which generally is S/S LB, but it involves quite a lot more “hack and slash” as you put it. You have to find what you enjoy. That is after all the whole point of the game- enjoying yourself.

Invoker.5462:

When I made my warrior a couple weeks ago I imagined myself being a frontline hack and slasher with one aim-… to fight and to kill (preferably with a large weapon or two small ones) sort of like what I’d expect a warrior to be out of any generic culture where the term “warrior” is used.

Instead I think I have created some sort of cleric or perhaps a combat medic. The only builds which seem to be working involve use of a bow and horn. The build “hambow” seems like it’s aim is to push the enemy away and shoot with the bow for damages rather than enjoying a bloody trade-off face to face.

Either way I’m shouting a lot, placing banners, and in many cases I’m actually doing more at a distance than I am up close.

I’m not even sure what rampage is supposed to do but nobody is using it. Signet of rage is making me run faster and buffing me up- but where is my hack and slash in your face warrior? Why has no one found an optimal build where warrior jumps in and wreaks havoc?

Well, yes right now PVP is like that, that is why I play Axe/Horn/LB, and you could say “is the same ….”.Sadly, LB is quite mandatory since you need it to activate Cleansing Ire, Horn provide a nice support and mobility , and Axe have eviscerate which is, imo, one of the most satisfactory skills in the game, fun, good damage, nice animation, if you can land it of course. Most warriors run pretty much a similar build because is tough out there, you can always try something different like run zeker with GS or something like that, but will be hard. Shoutbow is reliable and comfortable, but boring as hell.

Umm you’re only playing like that because you want to. Rampage is freaking beast and my favourite skill in the entire game. Seriously the damage is crazy with huge cc and can be immune to cc. I run axe/shield with GS for mobility or switch the shield for a mace for a bit more offence with the same cc. You can always run GS/Ham which is seen mostly in WVW, but can do amazing things in pvp. Check out Blacktruth009 on twitch he opts for less meta builds. BTW I have yet to see more than handful of people kill me 1v1 while using rampage.

Sadly, this is the current state of warriors. Among all of the weapon’s F1, our sole class mechanics, only bow’s F1 is actually worth the adrenalin build-up. This is not just for Cleansing Ire, it is also for the long fire field.

Many of the other weapon’s F1 ability used to be decent, they are nerf again and again, due to the ability to try it again, since the adrenalin was not depleted if its not hit. Recently Anet decided to make warrior high risk high reward, hence they take away the ability to try-again, but they forget the “high reward” part for most weapons.

This is why warriors without LB are in a very sad state. I mean who would have thought that a seemly melee oriented class need to rely on a ranged weapon. Good job Anet.

So if you are looking for a traditional warrior type of melee character….. maybe Meditation Guardian? Or just better try out a different game. Sorry.

bigmonto.4215:

Sadly, this is the current state of warriors. Among all of the weapon’s F1, our sole class mechanics, only bow’s F1 is actually worth the adrenalin build-up. This is not just for Cleansing Ire, it is also for the long fire field.

Many of the other weapon’s F1 ability used to be decent, they are nerf again and again, due to the ability to try it again, since the adrenalin was not depleted if its not hit. Recently Anet decided to make warrior high risk high reward, hence they take away the ability to try-again, but they forget the “high reward” part for most weapons.

This is why warriors without LB are in a very sad state. I mean who would have thought that a seemly melee oriented class need to rely on a ranged weapon. Good job Anet.

I agree the burst skills are complete crap besides LB and Axe. With a decent defensive build you can still crib for over 7k with eviscerate and with a full glass cannon over 10k. It is a little hard to land, but thats why you pair it with shield or mace for the cc. Mace is actually pretty decent as well with a 3 second stun, but the damage isn’t that great.

It isn’t that bad even if you play it this way in PvP. Non-longbow Warrior is definitely do-able.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6121605

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867 (Sorry for mic quality on this one)

My advice is to get better mechanically and get better at making builds. Don’t do stupid things such as not using “stow-weapon,” definitely learn to count cooldowns/dodges, and definitely stop making bad builds with Signet of Fury.

Dawdler.8521:

The only Warriors I see using a bow are the ones laying at my feet with their bow wrapped around their neck. Which are very rare since most of them are like rabid beasts flailing around a greatsword like its an… uhm… well, a flail.

If you’re not trolling, then visit the Warrior forums. Plenty of builds there for Warriors that want to leap into battle like the overgrown frogs they are.

You’re joking right? The only Warrior running around without a LB are the ones in premades using GS and getting pocket heals!

All Warrior or 90% use LB as their secondary weapon because we are killed faster than the medium amounts of damage we can inflict… He’s absolutely correct, Warrior is now a squishy high hp buffer or bowman with out rapid fire… Its absurd that this is the Warrior.

Interesting.
I always thought warrior is the only profession that feels right and natural.
Not to forget its responsive, fast and action packed.
Sure the damage is nerfed to hell but the warrior is still the only class that has some weight behind its animation. The attacks ‘feel’ powerful and strong.

Imo the other classes are far less entertaining and kinda off.
- The guard does not know what it wants to be and feels weak.
- Rangers are your pet careworkers and you cant even stay on your longbow for longer than a few seconds in a fight because there is no way to disengage?!
- Elementalist.. lel. Muh 4 elements but not even a single target ranged nuke as a default attack? What kind of a mage is that.
- Thief wields two wet noodles… It literally feels that way.
- Engineer… Flamethrowers, guns, explosive packages. Yea no thank you. This is not CoD.

Necro and Mesmer are actually quite decent. Mesmers are a fresh and new class and necros are your average summoner.

Quite honestly though, GW tries to be TO unique…
This is why I can pretty much only enjoy warrior in this game which is a shame cause I usually enjoy playing archers, daggers and mages. But they got completely screwed over :<

I suppose if all you care about is Game Animations Warrior is for you! But for those of play a Warrior, we have good Armor, and good Hp but trying to play the Warrior its hardly what it should be.

Warrior shouldn’t be subjected to having to be a ranged class to be viable!

True. Though I have to say that I perform a lot worse with LB then with my roaming axe+sh/GS setup.
I dont like how slow the LB is, and without any condi damage its weak. Using it ONLY for the condi clear is a waste aswell imo. Better use the new GS burst with its large AOE.
I generally dont understand why so few people use the shield. Its awesome.

But I am only rank 34 or something. So I dont know, things might get difficult with better opponents.

Edit: oh yes, visuals are always important for me. Skills need to feel strong or it just wont cut it. I was really upset that we got the standard hammer swing animation for the new GS burst. In the preview it looked a lot more powerful.

Flitzie.6082:

True. Though I have to say that I perform a lot worse with LB then with my roaming axe+sh/GS setup.
I dont like how slow the LB is, and without any condi damage its weak. Using it ONLY for the condi clear is a waste aswell imo. Better use the new GS burst with its large AOE.
I generally dont understand why so few people use the shield. Its awesome.

But I am only rank 34 or something. So I dont know, things might get difficult with better opponents.

Edit: oh yes, visuals are always important for me. Skills need to feel strong or it just wont cut it. I was really upset that we got the standard hammer swing animation for the new GS burst. In the preview it looked a lot more powerful.

I love the shield, I just feel the stun is to short 2 seconds would be better. I mean even with the 30% extra stun thats 1.3 secs! Also the range of the Shield Bash needs to be longer to counter ranged classes kiting it should be 600 like savage leap. Shield stance should have a passive debuff buff added to make it more unique and utility, other classes get double effects / utility on their shield not Warrior.

You give shield bash 600 range 2 second stun and make Stance give maybe regen / remove conditions during its timer based on adrenaline / maybe even buff party in xxx radius of vitality and toughness…

Or just lower the CDs by half! I mean even with the Shield Master ability you’re looking at 20 seconds and 24 seconds respectively, whilst other classes get to use 4/5 2-3 times in that window!

The stun is just long enough to land an Eviscerate/Final Thrust, but you need to be quick about it. You can’t use Shield Bash and then sit there twiddling your thumbs for (even a fraction of) a second before hitting your next ability.

If Shield Bash had 600 range and a 2 sec stun the CD would be twice as long and we’d be right back here with you complaining about how Shield is underwhelming.

If you look at the CDs for other Shield abilities for other profs you’ll see they’re pretty level. We have the same CD length as the Guardian and a shorter CD length than Engies since they have double activating abilities. If you’re comparing Shields to off-hand weapons it’s apples and oranges my friend.