Bull’s Charge, Throw Bolas, and Stomp + HB from my GS usually guarantees a kill for me. If those aren’t enough, I’ll switch to my Hammer and use its CCs. Full Knight’s Set with Dolyak Runes and Berserker Accessories are enough for my DPS, especially against Glass Cannons like Thieves.
Mesmers on the other hand are a kitten to deal with. Getting close to a Mesmer is insanely difficult when you have to deal with its clones on the way. By the time you get to the Mesmer, you’d have used the majority of your skills for them to easily kill you, or they’d run away with their multiple escape skills. How do you guys deal with Mesmers?
aww you usually 2 shot anything that moves with your rotation but now you have to use your brain.I feel really sad for you *sniff :’(
K it just shows you’re not really fighting good Thieves.
However, it is true that Thieves are a more manage-able match-up than Mesmers because they only have a few ways to land burst effectively against a Warrior whose actually trying to predict. Mesmer on the other hand? Just slide your nose through the keys and you’ll be fine.
aww you usually 2 shot anything that moves with your rotation but now you have to use your brain.I feel really sad for you *sniff :’(
He’s asking for advice and trying to learn. Go be a kitten elsewhere.
@Oreoriginal: Mesmers aren’t too bad to deal with as long as you figure out which one is the real one. Clones only auto-attack, so make sure you target the one who’s dodging around and using other skills. Also, mesmers are pretty squishy, so don’t bother blowing your whole rotation in one go. Your regular attacks will hit them plenty hard enough to keep them honest.
Time your utility cooldowns so that you always have at least one CC ready when the opportunity presents itself. As with fighting any class, try to make them burn their utils and dodges unnecessarily (example: a lot of people seem to confuse GS-5 for Bull’s Charge and pop their stun-breakers for no good reason). The goal is to keep the pressure up while watching for them to make a mistake, then burst them down.
And lastly, know when to press and when to back off. Some fights just end up being a huge time sink when you could have been more useful someplace else. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging a stalemate and continuing about your business. You’re more mobile than they are, so you can choose to end the fight at any time.
Happy hunting!
GS vs your typical shatter mesmer is an uphill battle. I’ll disagree with Teambattleaxe, regardless of whether you know which mesmer is the real one or not the fight is a tough one.
The general fight, pretty much like all your set ups as GS warrior is to force your opponent to use his endurance and “outs” before you use your frenzied combo. The problem with the shatter mesmer is he has way more “outs” with shorter cd’s than your set ups.
When in staff, you need to force them to use phase retreat. When using sword/pistol you need to wait out blurred frenzy and you have to have a stability available for magic bullet. On top of that they have distortion and diversion along with blink from utilities in either weapon set.
The best I’ve come up with is catching them after their burst when they switch back to staff. Use a knock down, if they phase retreat from there you have a chance if you haven’t used your major damage cd’s.
I’ve been using more sword/mace and gs instead of mace/shield. Flurry into HB works wonders as well as using tremor to get people to blow teleports or defensive cds
I forgot to also mention Mirror Images…
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Mesmers and Thieves are the easiest class to beat for me on my Warrior.
I use Axe/Shield, Bolas/Bull/EP – leg specialist, shield reflect.
Secondary is rifle for finishing runners.
vs D/D Thief.
Sblock/EP the combo of death, rest of fight is about landing Evis and keeping him rooted, if he shadowsteps away pop Rifle and Volley. Easiest fight of my life.
vs P/D Thief.
Reflect sneak attack, laugh.
When he’s under revealed, throw axe or bull + Evis + 1 till death.
Heal if the fight gets longer.
vs P/P Thief.
Reflect Unloads, boom10kevisyouredeadthinghy, yawn.
vs S/D Thief.
Break daze with EP and throwaxe10kevisgotowaypointbro.
If it fails swap to Rifle and use channeled skills as they will kill him during stealth.
vs Mesmer.
AoE or Sblock clones, bait decoy, throw axe → BOOM 10K EVIS, bolas, 2, 11111, bull when needed.
EP if he spawns more clones to prevent a second shatter.
You’re not pulling that off on any decent shatter mesmer.
How exactly do you aoe clones with axe/shield and rifle ? unless he uses pistol/staff and you can kill clones with shieldblock reflect you have no reliable way to aoe clones down.
Mesmers and Thieves are the easiest class to beat for me on my Warrior.
I use Axe/Shield, Bolas/Bull/EP – leg specialist, shield reflect.
Secondary is rifle for finishing runners.vs D/D Thief.
Sblock/EP the combo of death, rest of fight is about landing Evis and keeping him rooted, if he shadowsteps away pop Rifle and Volley. Easiest fight of my life.vs P/D Thief.
Reflect sneak attack, laugh.
When he’s under revealed, throw axe or bull + Evis + 1 till death.
Heal if the fight gets longer.vs P/P Thief.
Reflect Unloads, boom10kevisyouredeadthinghy, yawn.vs S/D Thief.
Break daze with EP and throwaxe10kevisgotowaypointbro.
If it fails swap to Rifle and use channeled skills as they will kill him during stealth.vs Mesmer.
AoE or Sblock clones, bait decoy, throw axe -> BOOM 10K EVIS, bolas, 2, 11111, bull when needed.
EP if he spawns more clones to prevent a second shatter.
/facepalm that would never work vs a real Mesmer not the people that just jump on and selected the purple guy at the start of the game… any thing beats them type of players
I’m talking about a person that know when to use there ability’s reactivly.. witch is what Mesmer does best
Join a party. Target them with the cross hair marker (set up a key for it, if you don’t like it’s default key). Only one of their abilities will clear that marker, and it has a cooldown.
Target the one with the big cross hair over it. Tell your party members to press T (assist). Watch the mesmer explode. Enjoy.
Mesmers are ridiculously strong in Spvp. WvW? They aren’t god incarnate.
Messmer’s are just difficult in general for melee. It’s very easy for a mesmer to put out a clone right on top of them and insta shatter.
I primarily play a guardian and they’re still tough: When every attack is an AoE and they spec thier clones for Confusion on kill… BLEH. Just a big ol BLEH.
I try to make them dodge backwards and when they send thier clones in to kill me, use an ability to ports you to them… avoiding thier shatter, then open a CC on them and your Burst dmg.
Just plan on doign this 2-3x’s and you will win 50/50.
It takes forever.
If your only purpose is to kill mesmers use a soldier amulet and play some heavy aoe weapon set such as greatsword and axe/shield (just found out axe hits in an aoe frontal cone).
The key is to use whirling attack defensively to dodge shatters and kill clones.
As a guardian you have to cycle through mace aoe counterattack, istant smite conditions, focus block and either greatsword or hammer.
By the time you get to the Mesmer, you’d have used the majority of your skills for them to easily kill you, or they’d run away with their multiple escape skills. How do you guys deal with Mesmers?
Look for the one that moves like it’s controlled by a human*. Do Fear Me when the clones are near you, then go after the human and use whatever you’d normally use.
‘* it always amuses me when a mesmer thinks they can just run away and I’ll stay fighting one of their clones.
By the time you get to the Mesmer, you’d have used the majority of your skills for them to easily kill you, or they’d run away with their multiple escape skills. How do you guys deal with Mesmers?
Look for the one that moves like it’s controlled by a human*. Do Fear Me when the clones are near you, then go after the human and use whatever you’d normally use.
‘* it always amuses me when a mesmer thinks they can just run away and I’ll stay fighting one of their clones.
Pay attention though, you don’ t want to fear the mesmer only to find out you were chilled.
Mesmer is a really bad match for warrior; you should lose more times than you win. I play some mesmer also and i usually have no problems against a warrior, and when im on my warrior i usually lose to mesmers too.
Most mesmers have 2 and a half stun breaks, sometimes 3 and a half. If they have all cooldowns up, its almost impossible to kill them before they hit you with a shatter combo. Half the time on my mesmer i can end the fight before the warrior can really even do anything.
Can’t win all the matchups, this game isn’t remotely balanced enough for that to happen.
Can’t win all the matchups, this game isn’t remotely balanced enough for that to happen.
This is, quite possibly, the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read on these forums.
Well guys, I played as Mesmer for a long time and actually I’m playing as a warrior. When I played as Mesmer I never lost from a Warrior, I usually played with Sword/Pistol and Staff, using shaterer build. With many critical hits, a Mesmer can full very quickly their endurance and dodge enought to gain time to kill a Warrior. One think that u could do is interrupt and cc the Mesmer as much as u can. One solution is to change your weapon, a Hammer could be a better option than the GS with your primary weapon. Using this build could help: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIQQNAS3XjcOtuxO2OMxBA0DryaLTheUPazu4A;T8Ag0ynEOJdS9kyJqaM1IqxWjrGZNLCGWsLA
The Warrior that was harder to kill generally used hammer but I have many break-stuns skills and a few times I win for a close advantage. So, try a different approach against mesmers like hammers an CC’s, with the burst skill u can destroy the clones and stun the real one. The other advices like “Don’t burn all you CC skills” is a good advice. Try the WvW, the encounters in this battlefield are generally hard.
Best whises….
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