The warrior class need a Shout and a Stance elite. The banner, Sigil and Transform elites doesn’t really help a support/tank warrior a lot and they become, not useless but less desireable by a party.
Examples of new shout and stance elite skills for the warrior.
Beast’s Last Stand – Absorb 75% of all incoming damage for 4 seconds. Release up to XXXX damage absorbed to each enemy, up to 5 enemies.
Type: Stance
Cooldown?
With the trait that increase the time of all stances by 25% this will get 5 seconds instead of 4 seconds.
Edit: Also a trait that reduce cd by 20%.
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Commander’s Inspiration – Increase the damage by 50% for up to 5 allies and heal them by 10% of their damage with each hit for 5 seconds. (including yourself)
Type: Shout
Cooldown?
With the trait that makes all shout heal, this will make the warrior a much better support role.
Edit: Oh and forgot the trait that reduce cd by 20%.
I agree that we need more elites. But that is a problem for all classes, not just warrior.
Your stance seems too powerful for a lot of the champs or for WvW. (I’m not saying this is any better, but maybe a team wide Endure Pain with or without stability)
I do like the shout (the %s may be a bit on the strong side, but I like the idea of it). As for the CD maybe 150 sec. For certain builds that could give a full heal and increase dps even more.
My only complaint, which is more of game mechanics than your suggestions, both of these skills reinforce going full zerk, and there’s already enough reasons to do that.
Honestly Commander’s Inspiration seems like it should be a stance, and BLS looks like it should be renamed something else and be a shout with a cast time in which you “absorb” the damage and shout it back. I vote Foos Ro Dah.
Honestly Commander’s Inspiration seems like it should be a stance, and BLS looks like it should be renamed something else and be a shout with a cast time in which you “absorb” the damage and shout it back. I vote Foos Ro Dah.
Stance are mostly for defensive or offensive use, so BTL fit as a stance and not a shout.
Shout are for support.
I agree that we need more elites. But that is a problem for all classes, not just warrior.
Yeah absolutely. All classes need more variation in elite skills, also some new utilities and healing skills. Mesmer have too weak healing skills in my opinion.
i run lyssa so my signet is also defensive :-)
block next attack (Aegis for 5 sec)
after that -33% damage (protection 5sec)
+ tiny bit healing (regen 5sec)
+ stability.. always nice :-)
and + 5 sec fury/swiftness on your already 30sec from signet.
And ofc a FULL condition wipe
Love it! :-P
But yeah if you run stances or shout it would be nice to get an elite.
Also the elite have to be on long cooldown.. if the shout is on a 25sec cooldown + lyssa = OP… (dunno i think lyssa got a internal cooldown at 35sec i think.. not sure)
Runes however are a bonus, they don’t really count as a skill.
Yep, more skills are needed. I’m trying to build a shout build for my warrior right now, but the elite skills doesn’t really fit my build at all. Have tried Stance build as well and the elite skills don’t fit the build..it’s really depressing.
It seems like ArenaNet don’t want support and tankish build in their game. I mean, everyone is running a zerk build, like, everywhere.
I’ve used Signet of Rage since level 30 odd and NEVER changed it. All the other Elite’s just seem awful in my opinion. I can see use for the banner in WvW but that’s about it.
I agree that we need more elites. But that is a problem for all classes, not just warrior.
Yeah absolutely. All classes need more variation in elite skills, also some new utilities and healing skills. Mesmer have too weak healing skills in my opinion.
While I would like more options for elites (and maybe even healing skills), I’d much rather have options for our weapon skills over giving us more utilities (either give us 2-3 skill options for the 2-5 skills or give us a pool to let us choose our own skill set), personally I don’t know what throwing more utils our way will do (though build diversity is always nice).
I agree that we need more elites. But that is a problem for all classes, not just warrior.
Yeah absolutely. All classes need more variation in elite skills, also some new utilities and healing skills. Mesmer have too weak healing skills in my opinion.
While I would like more options for elites (and maybe even healing skills), I’d much rather have options for our weapon skills over giving us more utilities (either give us 2-3 skill options for the 2-5 skills or give us a pool to let us choose our own skill set), personally I don’t know what throwing more utils our way will do (though build diversity is always nice).
I think new weapons for each proffesion is more likely to be added than swapable weaponskills. Like Hammer or Greatsword for necro with more direct damage.
But yeah, if they can balance the weapons with more skills on them that you can swap out, that would be great.
Like Hammer warrior is totally useless against bosses because they use defiant which ignores CC, it would be great if you could swap those out to apply conditions or do better direct damage.
I’ve used Signet of Rage since level 30 odd and NEVER changed it. All the other Elite’s just seem awful in my opinion. I can see use for the banner in WvW but that’s about it.
Luckily the banner can insta-res keep lords and supervisors (and every other NPC) which is the only reason it’s excellent in team fights in WvW.
i run lyssa so my signet is also defensive :-)
block next attack (Aegis for 5 sec)
after that -33% damage (protection 5sec)
+ tiny bit healing (regen 5sec)
+ stability.. always nice :-)
and + 5 sec fury/swiftness on your already 30sec from signet.
And ofc a FULL condition wipe
Love it! :-P
But yeah if you run stances or shout it would be nice to get an elite.
Also the elite have to be on long cooldown.. if the shout is on a 25sec cooldown + lyssa = OP… (dunno i think lyssa got a internal cooldown at 35sec i think.. not sure)
Get some boon duration and u will love it even more
Rune of Lyssa FTW!
Feel free to argue with me. You learn something every time and it develops your personality.
People seems using word “trolling” out of context way too often…
The warrior class need a Shout and a Stance elite. The banner, Sigil and Transform elites doesn’t really help a support/tank warrior a lot and they become, not useless but less desireable by a party.
Examples of new shout and stance elite skills for the warrior.
Beast’s Last Stand – Absorb 75% of all incoming damage for 4 seconds. Release up to XXXX damage absorbed to each enemy, up to 5 enemies.
Type: Stance
Cooldown?
With the trait that increase the time of all stances by 25% this will get 5 seconds instead of 4 seconds.
Edit: Also a trait that reduce cd by 20%.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Commander’s Inspiration – Increase the damage by 50% for up to 5 allies and heal them by 10% of their damage with each hit for 5 seconds. (including yourself)
Type: Shout
Cooldown?
With the trait that makes all shout heal, this will make the warrior a much better support role.
Edit: Oh and forgot the trait that reduce cd by 20%.
Your elite stance idea sounds a lot like Galio’s ult from LoL, in which case I’d 200% approve of lol. I would literally sit in red circles just to reflect all that damage back to enemies.
