Phalanx Strength is a great talent; it is one of the more important things that a warrior can bring to a group. I am not particularly unhappy with it exactly, but rather on it’s interaction with Forceful Greatsword; if you want to play a PS build, you are pretty well locked into two talent lines (Strength/Tactics) and you are pretty well locked into GS as a weapon.
I think it would work out much better to move the ‘might on critical’ off of Forceful Greatsword and onto its own talent in the tactics line ( probably displacing the +400 toughness while rezzing; not very interesting and how many rezzing talents does a specialization need anyway?)
Forceful Blows (tactics minor):
When you score a critical hit you gain 1 stack of might for 5 seconds.
Why bother? That suddenly makes tactics basically a self-contained tree that can be slotted into other build; all of the skills to make Phalanx Strength work are there in one line. You can play a support build with any of your weapons: hammer / mace-shield / sword-horn / rifle / etc.
I think that would make a lot of warriors happy and you’d have a lot more diversity in support builds.
u can have 4 might on swap. 5 might from SOR. Probably 3-4 might from Might on crit sigil. Long bow you can blast the firefield once with combustive shot and another with a banner. For 12 might.
Thats 25 might. But why bother. GS is more optimal.
“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
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u can have 4 might on swap. 5 might from SOR. Probably 3-4 might from Might on crit sigil. Long bow you can blast the firefield once with combustive shot and another with a banner. For 12 might.
Thats 25 might. But why bother. GS is more optimal.
I don’t think PS copies the duration of your might stacks, so 5 might from SOR is still only going to last ~9s for your allies even with strength runes.
Separating it from GS is fine. Putting it in tactics line… not really.
It could be a good strength adept trait, instead of the crap we have there. At the very least it will allow axe to compete with GS.
At the very least it will allow axe to compete with GS.
Why would we want that? The best way to get DPS from greatsword is to use your skills in a proper rotation. The best way to get DPS from axe is to… press 1. You really want to make a press 1 weapon better? ZZZZZ
At the very least it will allow axe to compete with GS.
Why would we want that? The best way to get DPS from greatsword is to use your skills in a proper rotation. The best way to get DPS from axe is to… press 1. You really want to make a press 1 weapon better? ZZZZZ
I’d rather have a Fast Hands build, but it is not going to happen, is it?
At the very least it will allow axe to compete with GS.
Why would we want that? The best way to get DPS from greatsword is to use your skills in a proper rotation. The best way to get DPS from axe is to… press 1. You really want to make a press 1 weapon better? ZZZZZ
I’d rather have a Fast Hands build, but it is not going to happen, is it?
It could be a good strength adept trait, instead of the crap we have there. At the very least it will allow axe to compete with GS.
Yeah, it makes more sense to have something about ‘might’ being in the ‘strength’ area anyway. (That would actually be true of Phalanx strength as well.)
You know that there is more game modes than your PvE ? what you are asking is simply killing GS once and for all.
The sad fact is that GS is our one actually viable weapon (along with longbow maybe); rather than have one over-powered talent propping up the whole build… it really needs to be separated out to give some more diversity.
Let’s say for the sake of argument that ‘gain might on a crit’ replaced the ‘do damage on a dodge roll’ talent or something. How does that possibly change things for GS?
The sad fact is that GS is our one actually viable weapon (along with longbow maybe); rather than have one over-powered talent propping up the whole build… it really needs to be separated out to give some more diversity.
That is wrong unless you play PvE or WvW roaming and its obvious why, Stationery targets for your 100b and mobility.
GS has no place in PvP yet, lets hope this get changed with the upcoming buff to Forceful Greatsword, Physical skills and zerk power.
it really needs to be separated out to give some more diversity.
You mean more Crippling and another reason to bring a shoutbow warrior, thats not how diversity works, Unless you want an OP Shoutbow with AoE might stacks buffing machine, like shoutbow needs more buffs.
Not only would you kill off build diversity by implementing this change but you would be making warrior significantly weaker.
Strength tree has berserker’s power and slick & move, so you’re losing out on over 30% personal damage with just the modifiers alone by not using it (actually 40% if you factor in the 10% damage from forceful greatsword). It would be absolute rubbish to use a phalanx build without it so if you’re wanting to dungeons and fractals without GS on a warrior and still be effective, it won’t be possible. It isn’t possible to have both right now and it won’t be after the patch.
So you have a choice here to make – do you want to play with efficiency in mind or play with a random build that’s way less efficient but more fun for you? Pick your poison, but you’ll have to deal with getting kicked out of groups more often if you pick the latter.
I’m with Purple. Even if you moved the might on crit off of FG, gs would still be the most efficient weapon for generating might through 100b and whirlwind, so the demand would still be to use a gs and nothing changes except you’ve bumped out a trait on the strength line.
PS doesn’t “lock” you into strength and gs, that’s just the best path to squeeze the most amount of might out of the trait. Anet’s actually adding a few additional ways to generate might in the new traits that would sync with PS, it’s just that without gs PS is less valuable than competing traits.
This isn’t a class or trait issue, it’s a personal choice and pve meta issue.
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