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Posted by: Eirdyne.9843

Eirdyne.9843

Yesterday I left our base in WvW heading to North West Tower.

It was under attack. I thought I’d help by sniping a few people with my rifle… a legendary I’d crafted just for this purpose.

Unfortunately, as I stood on the west mountain ledge overlooking the road my shots vanished well short of reaching the road despite that my ranger would have been able to reach it (if just barely).

Anet, I will seriously buy you a plane ticket to come with me to a rifle range if you need to grasp how incredibly unrealistic and worthless rifles are right now simply because you do not give them enough range to be of any value.

By the time I was able to fire the rifle and actually hit something the guardian I was shooting at had run the entire length of the road, climbed the ledge, and reach leaping range with their great sword skill.

I’m serious. If you need a plane ticket to learn about firearms just contact me. This is ridiculous. Fix your rifles!

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Posted by: Ice.5162

Ice.5162

Think rifles are doomed ’till the next expansion.

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Posted by: Sifu.9745

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Rifle is still a beter ranged option than LB, if you play non condi builds … Power LB i don’t do any dmg. I’m forced to take Rifle over LB for WvW, if i need a ranged weapon.

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

L2P.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Mechanically I think of rifle as ranged (touch) melee attacks when I’m playing. Like with a GS or sword I just have to be within the range limit.

No its not ideal but ohwell.

Hey, if an Anet dev comes down to the gun range with you and goes back with some fresh new ideas, will rifle attacks have to start accounting for crosswinds etc too? :D

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Posted by: DresdenAllblack.1249

DresdenAllblack.1249

Range aside, rifle is for single target, LB for groups.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Rifle is still a beter ranged option than LB, if you play non condi builds … Power LB i don’t do any dmg. I’m forced to take Rifle over LB for WvW, if i need a ranged weapon.

Actually, full zerk lb is a thing. Zerk gs/lb does very good damage and is aoe to boot. Plus the auto gives two opportunities to proc on crit sigils, traits, etc.

Outside of a single target or potshotting into blobs, I’d take lb over rifle any day.

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Posted by: Thuggernaut.1250

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Rifle is still a beter ranged option than LB, if you play non condi builds … Power LB i don’t do any dmg. I’m forced to take Rifle over LB for WvW, if i need a ranged weapon.

Even forgetting damage completely, with longbow you get (1) a blind, (2) a blast finisher, (3) an immobilize, and (4) a fire-field. None of which you get with rifle.

The utility on longbow is just too good to ignore. Even if the thing did zero damage, it would still be better than rifle in 99% of situations.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

The only real problem with the rifle is that it doesnt have 1500 range. Give it that and it would serve a purpose in WvW.

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Posted by: Kronos.2560

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Rifle just needs a rework on skills. I love the look of rifle, heck I even made a legendary one.. But then I realized that no matter how much I love the look it just sucks. LB has every utility you could possibly need. Where rifle has…. a rooted killshot? I guess it can be good if they don’t notice you crouching and didn’t notice you shooting them to get the adrenaline to use it… It wouldn’t be hard to switch it up with skills already in game to make them competitive.

Switch some of the skills to be useful, make the cripple skill immobilize. Too op you say? Then why does longbow have it (plus it gives bleeding)? Make the knock back similar to the cm boss Sure-Shot Seamus (to add flavor and a little cone aoe). Its a warrior in a world with magic, grenades, bombs, cannons and guns. Why does a weapon only hit 1 person, there are fixes to this.

And finally all I have to say to this is rifle grenades. I mean I’m using a gun that shoots lazers but this hasn’t been invented yet?

Sorry I can’t help but just wonder why they made rifle soo bad… It’s just difficult for me to see a situation in real life where a high powered rifle would ever perform worse then a bow. There is a reason people go bow hunting, its for sport because rifles make it too easy. It just messes with my brain every time I see a bow shoot a lot further then a rifle in game… it just makes no sense…

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

i use zerk rifle in wvw when im following a zerg and with crack shot of course i get plenty of 10K+ kill shots. results in quite a few bags. With 2600+ power, 85% crit chance (with fury) and 205% crit damage, the damage pressure via piercing shots into a zerg is noticeable.

I use burst precision to have guaranteed crit on killshot also. With berzerkers power trait my Volley does 20% more damage after killshot.

All in all i enjoy rifle in wvw group fights.

I wish i could take warriors sprint and crack shot though.

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Posted by: ugrakarma.9416

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Im using a rifle + hibrid Warrior in WvW and having tons of fun.

Armor Runes: Rune of the Krait.
Armor: Precision(primary), power and condi.
Trinkets: Berseker.
Rifle Sigils: Sigil of Earth, Sigil of Incapacitation.

Secondary weapons: Warhorn+Sword. Sigil of Geomancy. This will solve any range and run issues and combined with a elite krait rune proc, works like a excelent panic button, spreading tons of bleeding and conditions. “when you use your elite skill you inflict Deals damage every second; stacks intensity. Bleeding, Deals damage every second. Deals additional damage to moving foes. Stacks intensity. Torment, and Deals damage every second; heal potency decreased by 33%; stacks intensity. Poison for 8 seconds to nearby foes.”

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Posted by: Blaine Tog.8304

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I can’t stand the longbow. Everything it does feels so darn slow. Like, I’ll fire a skill and have enough time to get up, go into the kitchen, pour myself a glass of water, drink the water, call my parents in California to ask how the drought is going, and it’s only just as I’m sitting back down at my computer after hanging up that the skill will land.

My #1 wish for the Rifle is for its trait to be moved so it’s not competing with our movespeed trait.

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