Warrior Sword Flurry is disappointing.

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Posted by: Pyro.3069

Pyro.3069

Why is our sword burst so….weak? I use it and i’m dealing about 128 damage per hit…ON CRIT. I’m guessing the fast stacking bleeds are supposed to make up for it? But they last 2 seconds =_=. They should really double the base damage and increase the bleed duration to at least 4-5 seconds. As it is, I either just don’t use this or tap them with immobilize and hit them with aa/switch to another weapon. Really disappointing for a burst that roots you in place and kinda looks cool…

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Posted by: Nightmare.2815

Nightmare.2815

Just wondering, what level are you? When I use it I deal hits starting at about 100-200 up to 600-700 on final with crit (at level 72). Also by the end I have about 20 stacks of bleed by the end.(not all from flurry granted), but flurry still increased the bleed stacks I think by around10. It’s no HB but I don’t know how your only hitting a little over 100.

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Posted by: Haette.2701

Haette.2701

Just wondering, what level are you? When I use it I deal hits starting at about 100-200 up to 600-700 on final with crit (at level 72). Also by the end I have about 20 stacks of bleed by the end.(not all from flurry granted), but flurry still increased the bleed stacks I think by around10. It’s no HB but I don’t know how your only hitting a little over 100.

Are you reading the damage numbers correctly? For multi-hit attacks it adds up the total damage dealt by the attack, so that 700 at the end is the damage you’ve dealt up to that point in the flurry.

Also, the immobilize is the important part.

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

LameFox.6349

It’s more of a utility than a power attack. It applies lots of immobilises though so it’s hard to escape – you can’t just break one and flee because there’s already another by then.

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Posted by: Lurkerfox.7684

Lurkerfox.7684

with my current Build my bleeds last 15 seconds :x and my Flurry does decent damage im in love with my bleed stacking warrior and will not stop anytime soon ^^

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Posted by: andreasels.3918

andreasels.3918

with my current Build my bleeds last 15 seconds :x and my Flurry does decent damage im in love with my bleed stacking warrior and will not stop anytime soon ^^

15 seconds on Flurry bleed? seems legit…

@Topic: At level 3 Adrenaline, the skill does 12 stacks of bleeding over 3 seconds (with +50% bleed duration trait), which equals to 1440 dmg without condition damage already + the normal damage.
With 1000 Condition damage it’s already 3240 damage from the bleeds (armor ignoring + immobilize!)
I don’t think that this sounds weak.

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Posted by: AinSoph.5063

AinSoph.5063

The mass Immobilize is fun, if you catch people holding hands. There are better Burst skills though.

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

It’s pretty rubbish.

There are only two times ever you’ll want to use it.

1) Hit it then switch over to GS for hundred blades.

2) To peel off players from attacking anyone else, or holding them in place for other people to attack. Or to root them whilst you escape.

The damage is nothing. 3k (if they don’t clear the bleed?) , people do that from ranged in a few seconds all the time to me with standard abilities. kitten Steal hits for 3-5 k instantly traited.

Worst thing about it is it roots you at the same time. I actually find I end up taking more damage from the class i rooted than i do to them for the duration.

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Posted by: Bug Spencer.7985

Bug Spencer.7985

What is most annoying to me is the 2-4 seconds self root. I hate it so much. Damage is quite fine given you invest points in condition damage.

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Posted by: Crescendoll.7612

Crescendoll.7612

It’s great in PvE! Not all skills are flawless for pvp

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Posted by: Nightmare.2815

Nightmare.2815

@ Haette no I thought that it showed each hit, thank you for correcting that.

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Posted by: Ayestes.1273

Ayestes.1273

With 50% Condition Duration, 50% Bleed Duration, and 1300 Condition Damage, it’s not unreasonable to get 2 Precise Strikes procs and 2 Earth Sigil procs within the flurry. Yes I know about the Earth Sigil cooldown, that’s why it’s only 2. The damage is actually fantastic with a focus on condition damage.

x12 4s bleeds give you about 5000 damage, coupled with the x4 10s bleeds for an additional 4000 damage, and around 2000 damage in the build I’ve run on average. This utilizes the Carrion Amulet. That’s 11k, on top of a 6s Immobilize. It’s awful for a pure direct damage build, but when you have the right condition damage enhancers it can be downright devastating.

Can is the keyword though, as condition removal tends to destroy Flurry bursts.

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Posted by: Argis.7049

Argis.7049

The main problem I have with the ability is that it roots yourself. I often will immobilize the enemy and start hitting them with flurry only to have them use condition removal, escape from the immobilze, and im stuck there swinging at air while they hit me from range. I still like the ability but the self-root bugs me.

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

Just cancel the attack if they break the immob -_-.

Anyways the Immob is obv the most powerful aspect of the ability — low cooldown relatively strong Immob? Awesome. Bonus damage is bonus.

Best part is they can’t turn while doing it, so roll through them or something.

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Posted by: aleiro.8521

aleiro.8521

sword burst is awesome, if you are not bleed specced, then don’t use sword…

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Posted by: Grumpdogg.6910

Grumpdogg.6910

At least it’s better than Uppercut I guess.

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

Agreed.

Has anyone ever actually used uppercut? Ever?

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Posted by: Ksielvin.1587

Ksielvin.1587

The ability is called Arcing Slice, heh.

I’ve used it. My build is made to work with Fury and using Arcing Slice as a last resort is sometimes worth it. Generally though I gain my Fury via Signet of Rage and Opportunist. Other options include Dual Strike, For Great Justice! and Battle Standard. Arcing Slice comes after everything else but I could see myself using it quite a bit if I wanted to make a build without passive addrenaline bonuses instead.

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Posted by: Bug Spencer.7985

Bug Spencer.7985

Sometimes I misclick it, and I become a sad panda

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Posted by: Lyonell.1753

Lyonell.1753

Other than adding bleeds this burst is useless, at 80 with pure exotics I rarely hit over 1.7k with it lol. But hey at least it bleeds not like the great sword burst…

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

I started using zerk stance, sword 2 leap and then pop flurry for the immobile. Switch to gs and 100 blades on those low targets instead of bulls. And its been working a lot better since everyone assumes you are going to bulls them lol.

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Posted by: Angriff.1935

Angriff.1935

Yeah, use it as a root. the only time I finish the whole flurry is if my greatsword switch is still on CD(which happens alot in WvW chasing people down). Just switch and lay into them with a more powerful weapon.