Warrior - The Worst Class in WVW
I think you got something wrong. Warrior is definitely not the worst profession for WvW. It is the worst one for tPvP though.
You can run anything in WvW. Try out different weapon sets and traits. If you run around alone the PvE 100b build works just fine to kill single targets and if you can’t kill them you can just “disengage”.
For coordinated teams hammer builds can be really useful (love the CC there) and shout builds are also nice. Like I said before, any weapon set works. Besides that the banners are also really good!
If you want a specific build use google. There are hundreds of guides out there.
Warrior is fine in WvW, it’s PvP where we have issues.
Warrior’s can solo roam and stomp people with high burst builds, usually with GS or Axe builds.
They can deal massive single target damage with rifle in large scale fights.
They can deal insane AoE damage with LB also in large scale fights.
Both of those last two can be done from the safety of a keep or tower mind you.
The hammer CC is THE BEST AoE CC weapon in the game.
I primarily WvW actually its all I do and I have had the most positive impact I think by running my shout heal/defensive spec.. 0/0/25/30/15.
I use sword and warhorn ( warhorn is a must, main hand could be mace but I like the sword for the leap and fast cripple ) with my healing build with food and the sigil I have over 1600+ heal… so I’m healing ppl ever 25-30 secs for 2200-2500+ AE… the war horn is traited so speed which is a must is up 100% and those same shouts that are healing, that warhorn does amazing things.. its removes conditions if traited.. it cures cripple and skll use debuff with a 1200 range! It also debuffs with fumble too and both ar eon short cooldowns relatively.
The elite skill banner is awesome for putting on your slots when u know your Keep lord could fall and my other utility is juggernaut as im Asurian and thats full of trolling fun
That is alot of team orientated stuff right there..alot then my main hand is Greathammer simply to have more CC the elite is fun and a stun and then theres the regualar 5 knockdown and the other cripple that it gives.. all this means not alot if your dead tho right?
Man you just cant kill this guy..the warhorn gives you 100% regen so you can dodge more the 15 pts def trait for regen combined with the signet regen and if want to lose a little plus heal add on a mango pie… thats THREE things ticking on you constantly for 4-500+ a tick..combine that with 3k armor rating? This makes us VERY good at manning rams and applying pressure through all the marks and enemy AE
Downside? you cant kill a gnat and you wont get bags or very many, but thats why theirs a whole team of DPS’ers behind you =) I’m the first to charge into an enemy zerg and the last to fall
Now that I’ve learned this much about this style I’m going to try some differant things to see if I can up my crit rate ( all you really need ) while not losing too much armor and or shout heal.. not sure if possible but I wont sacrifice ALL that support for a few kills if it comes down to it.
edit, and its a cheap build to set up using the temple gear and 6 soldier runes ( MORE condition removal ) cleric jewels are the only thing that cost at all.
Its fun
You can run much more effective roaming builds in WvW then in SPvP. This is because you have more stats, access to food and a larger area to disengage. Warriors scale quite nicely with stats, as we have a lot of % based damage increases. You can generally run away from almost all classes except for thief and the occasional DD ele.
In a team setting you can bring damage, CC or support through banner / shouts. You can also run spike long bow builds or lol killshot builds. Melee is a disadvantage in a zerg setting, but if you run pure PVT, you can initiate well with hammer and through shield block + endure pain live long enough for your team to catch up.
Thief can’t touch a decent warrior either :p, tons of tricks to get them off your tail. ‘fear me’ is my personal favourite. But you can run sigil of hydromacy too, weapon swap when they are right behind and run away or kill… you decide.
No warrior is a great class in WvW. They really add tons to a group which other classes can’t. And all that while still dealing decent amount of damage.
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Warrior might not be the best a solo roaming WvW but they kick kitten as part of a coordinated team and is definitely not the worst class for WvW. I run 3 different builds using the same mix of zerker/soldier gear with zerker/cavalier accessories but my favorite is the Hammer/longbow. I get great CC and decent burst damage. Killing invaders is not a problem. I can hold my own in a 1v2 fight and often win. Despite having what probably is the simplest combat mechanics in the game it is a difficult class to master cause you don’t get a lot of room for error compared to others. If you don’t time your skills right or don’t pay attention to your enemy’s boons you die.
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Hello everyone. I am not here to discuss that Warriors is the worst class in WVW cause it is a fact, my question is: what warrior’s are supposed to do in wvw ? We doesn’t have the best damage, best CC or best survival. What we have is mobility so warrior’s are supposed to run at wvw ?
Simply not true, it all depends on your commander’s tactics. In T1 NA there are guilds running a lot of Hammer warriors. If your commander loves to charge and go nuts, then you’re in luck. The problem is, a warrior’s role is too specific and lack of a strong “bench warmer” set-up.
It’s a fact you don’t know how to play warrior properly. I never die on my warrior because I can pick and choose fights with the mobility I have. In a group setting you should be the direct-damage aoe with hammer, sometimes great sword. I would argue we have some the best CC actually.. However, this doesn’t mean warriors don’t need some “help”
Things I would like to see:
More Range on skills, at least 400…
Conditions no longer go through enduring pain or reduced cool down on it
Stances need something besides just “one” ability..maybe like protection with balanced stance, although that might be Op.
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Hello everyone. I am not here to discuss that Warriors is the worst class in WVW cause it is a fact, my question is: what warrior’s are supposed to do in wvw ? We doesn’t have the best damage, best CC or best survival. What we have is mobility so warrior’s are supposed to run at wvw ?
You’re right. I’m living a lie. Here I was considering that necros have long-cd stun breaks, no hard cc, and no combat disengage; or engis who have to spec to get reliable condi removal. I was even deluding myself into thinking we got better longbow options than rangers. No, since you probably ran into your t8 borderland with a greatsword and no stun breaks, you’re showing me the truth I’ve been denying all this time even after I spent the evening spiking glass cannon thieves and guardians: my warrior is the worst ever at wvw.
don’t feed the troll…
warrior bad at www? really?
wow….
party buffs, low CD condition removals, tons of CC, high armor and health, excellent mobility, special traits that increase arrow-cart annoyance… all this mixed with the chaos of the war inside a zerg…
just because you die to two rangers that root you and then crossfire you with their short-bows (unless you took shield and reflect) doesn’t mean its a bad class…
use a hammer/rifle, you’ll be dropping worthless rangers in short order.
Hello everyone. I am not here to discuss that Warriors is the worst class in WVW cause it is a fact, my question is: what warrior’s are supposed to do in wvw ? We doesn’t have the best damage, best CC or best survival. What we have is mobility so warrior’s are supposed to run at wvw ?
Are you a troll? GS warriors one shot people almost as easy as backstab thieves lol. Hammer is fun for dealing with groups as well. Warriors are not the worst, you just have to be able to do more than stand in front of an npc and press 11111111111111111111, lol.
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You’re right. I’m living a lie. Here I was considering that necros have long-cd stun breaks, no hard cc, and no combat disengage; or engis who have to spec to get reliable condi removal. I was even deluding myself into thinking we got better longbow options than rangers. No, since you probably ran into your t8 borderland with a greatsword and no stun breaks, you’re showing me the truth I’ve been denying all this time even after I spent the evening spiking glass cannon thieves and guardians: my warrior is the worst ever at wvw.
Yep,
After 1800+ hours on a Necro, just in wvw, I find playing Warrior pretty much rolling on ‘easy mode’. Tonnes of condition removal, manoeuvrability, speed, buffs, stability, group heals, raw damage and heaps of CC that just makes people cry. Pretty much everything in the utilities and traits just does what it says on the can and works.
Think the nicest part of it all is just picking the tools for the job on the fly to switch out and do what’s required, if you can’t figure it out you’re probably just a bloody terrible player and should stick to hitting mobs in happy carebear land.
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You’re right. I’m living a lie. Here I was considering that necros have long-cd stun breaks, no hard cc, and no combat disengage; or engis who have to spec to get reliable condi removal. I was even deluding myself into thinking we got better longbow options than rangers. No, since you probably ran into your t8 borderland with a greatsword and no stun breaks, you’re showing me the truth I’ve been denying all this time even after I spent the evening spiking glass cannon thieves and guardians: my warrior is the worst ever at wvw.
Yep,
After 1800+ hours on a Necro, just in wvw, I find playing Warrior pretty much rolling on ‘easy mode’. Tonnes of condition removal, manoeuvrability, speed, buffs, stability, group heals, raw damage and heaps of CC that just makes people cry. Pretty much everything in the utilities and traits just does what it says on the can and works.Think the nicest part of it all is just picking the tools for the job on the fly to switch out and do what’s required, if you can’t figure it out you’re probably just a bloody terrible player and should stick to hitting mobs in happy carebear land.
Plus he’s obviously never tried to run, escape, or withdraw from combat as a necro.
P.S. Blackgate, come back to T2