Warrior not so overpowered after all.

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Posted by: Zsymon.8457

Zsymon.8457

I first thought warrior was madly overpowered, and that 100b oneshots any mob or player. I thought my greatsword ranger was worthless compared to a greatsword warrior, but turns out I was miserably wrong.

My ranger does less damage purely with the greatsword, but with Troll Unguent, the evasions, the blocks, the dazes and stuns, my greatsword ranger can take on 7 mobs at once with ease without going below 50% health, while my warrior nearly dies with three.

I can’t comment on pvp yet, but for pve I have to seriously withdraw my opinion about warrior overpoweredness. My warrior does more damage, but my greatsword ranger will kill a lot more monsters than my warrior in any given time, using fire trap and swoop for the fire shield, if I take on multiple foes at once.

But like I said, I cannot comment on pvp, just solo pve for now.

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Posted by: Secro.5039

Secro.5039

You’ve learnt to play your ranger properly, that’s why you are winning

Someday, you’ll learn to play your warrior properly and win at that as well. Not being mean, just how it is!

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Posted by: Zsymon.8457

Zsymon.8457

Ya, this game is definitely heavily skill-based. If I learned anything so far, it’s that underpowered and overpowered are judgements that shouldn’t be made too soon. I think the only players that should comment on game balance (other than bugs) are those who, unlike me, have a lot of experience with all four areas: solo pve, dungeons, sPvP and WvW.. without that experience you cannot make any judgements in this game, there is too much skill involved for that.

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Posted by: Recently.1043

Recently.1043

Guess what. Warriors can use bows too. When kitten hits the fan, start kitting your lil tush off like a ranger.

Call me when this game gets fixed…. if it ever does….

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Posted by: Sir Richter Belmont.3258

Sir Richter Belmont.3258

you would be dead before your tush starts running, thats whats the problem with warriors.

I have a love hate relationship with my warrior right now, took me a week to fully understand how to use whirlwind and bladetrail, to take from a fail ability that does 700 dmg to 10k dmg or more (people saying it doesnt work still don’t understand how to use this ability >.<)

but the other problem with the warrior isnt that he is a glasscannon anyway you build him, its that if I am going to die building him glass cannon ANYWAY, WHY THE F is his range dps so loooooooooowwwww, it makes me sad. if i go in and tank, i die, go in and melee, I die, if I range, might as well repleace the useless dps that aint doing dmg, waste of spot.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

Sometimes the problem isn’t with warriors. Sometimes it’s a problem with the player.

Alduin Nightsong, 80 Human Necro
“He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”

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Posted by: Lady Grey.4125

Lady Grey.4125

Guess what. Warriors can use bows too. When kitten hits the fan, start kitting your lil tush off like a ranger.

Oh my god! Kittens hitting a fan!?! How horrible!

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Posted by: Garrix.7036

Garrix.7036

Honestly, warriors are perfectly fine in pvp without even using hb. Autoattack tends to crit 2-3k, bladetrail for 3-5 (per hit), and whirlwind for 7k+ easily, depending on if you angle it perfectly. I mostly just use HB to force a quick dodge out of them, usually only get the first few hits in and cancel it.

I’ve never run from a 1v1/2v2/2vX fight (with my guardian buddy I’d have no problem looking at a 2v4 or 5, depending on class makeup). It’s a littlekitten how quickly I drop most people (aside from guardians) in 1v1 fights. I don’t use ever use frenzy.

Working on a thief atm, and it’s amazing to see how squishy medium/light armor classes are.

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Posted by: Humorless.1573

Humorless.1573

Haste + 100 blades is overpowered.

Haste in general is kitten broken on any class, and probably any weapon. It allows for too much burst in the duration someone is rooted or stunned.

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Posted by: Zsymon.8457

Zsymon.8457

I don’t see why double dps for a few seconds is so bad? On my ranger I used quickening zephyr with greatsword, shortbow and longbow, but for its long cooldown it really didn’t do all that much damage.

Haste is usually on a very long cooldown for any class, or has a very short duration with a drawback, such as +50% damage taken, which I think offsets the benefits plenty. Haste wasn’t overpowered on my ranger, and I don’t think it’s overpowered on a warrior either. 100 blades is what benefits most from haste, and no experienced warrior ever uses 100 blades because it is only useful for pve and killing very inexperienced players.

I’m not sure what else a greatsword warrior is supposed to do outside of 100B.. it’s an easy to use skill, but also a very easily avoided skill, it’s a skill for newbies against newbies. I thought it was overpowered too, I even posted about it, but once I actually used it myself, and fought against it knowing how it works, I noticed how lackluster it really is on any level except newbie mode.

It’s kinda like those really slow one shot kills from event bosses.. you see the red circle, you see the arm coming down, and all you do is walk away or dodge.

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Posted by: Lyonell.1753

Lyonell.1753

Leaving guardians outside the equation every single class in the game can fell over power if you learn to play it properly. I have tried almost all of them and I can tell you that at first all classes specially the warrior feels dull and under power, but when u start experimenting with different set ups, leaving behind the 30 power / 5 signets and even the great sword and rifle aside, you start loving the warrior a lot. The same goes to all other classes but the warrior in my opinion is much harder as doing stuff with your melee weapons takes a way higher curve than with any other class.

The GS is a good example of that, with hb people complain warrior is op, but in reality what makes the warrior truly op with the greatsword is all the other skills besides HB, HB if anything is a PVE move and with quicken a PVE n00b murderer in pvp.

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Posted by: balvor.8610

balvor.8610

“…no experienced warrior ever uses 100 blades because it is only useful for pve and killing very inexperienced players”

I guess we are playing different games then:

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Posted by: balvor.8610

balvor.8610

This one is even more ridiculous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLo6aBNatlc

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Posted by: Zsymon.8457

Zsymon.8457

I really don’t see anything overpowered, just a good player sometimes winning and sometimes losing. Is a profession not supposed to be able to beat others at all? No one gets one shotted, and if a warrior plays pure glass cannon, he will die if you sneeze at him.. if he uses frenzy then he will die 50% faster than a sneeze.

Health + heavy armor != survivability.

That’s why guardians, with the lowest possible health pool, have far more survivability than the warrior will ever have.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

Balvor, you aren’t actually using someone’s lame attempt at humor as support for an argument that 100B needs a nerf, are you?

Sad times we’re living in.

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“He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”

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Posted by: Dark Revan.7634

Dark Revan.7634

I really don’t see anything overpowered, just a good player sometimes winning and sometimes losing. Is a profession not supposed to be able to beat others at all? No one gets one shotted, and if a warrior plays pure glass cannon, he will die if you sneeze at him.. if he uses frenzy then he will die 50% faster than a sneeze.

Health + heavy armor != survivability.

That’s why guardians, with the lowest possible health pool, have far more survivability than the warrior will ever have.

Well said, i don’t see it being overpowered either as you could see he won and he lost, also he wasn’t 1-shotting like people like to say.

Regarding the survivability, well said again. People need to realise that just because they have heavy armor and a good amount of health it doesn’t mean they can tank…they need to spec themselves to be more “tankish” it certainly wont appear out of nowhere if all you do is go for attack