Guild Wars 2

Warriors are now the only viable class in the game. I used to love to play all different classes in this game but arena net has balanced this so poorly i could cry. My son and i play this game together in pvp and wvw and warriors are the only class that we or anyone else can play and beat any other class in this game with your eyes closed. Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth, warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves. Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab. I could go on forever about class verse class. Warriors also can do amazing condition damage depending on the build even better than most classes. One more thing Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.
I think it’s time to change the name of this game to Guild Warriors 2
Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second.

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

I agree with you 100%, Queen Kiearha! There’s a reason that every single last tPvP team now runs 5 Warriors, they’re the only viable profession left!

yes, warrior is so good, i 1 versus 30 people and i stun them all with my 10 seconds stun on my hammer and killed more then half of them then i ran away with 60% health with my insane mobility on my rifle.
and my warrior s condition damaga is up top, condi necro can’t even touch me, i killed engi ranger and necro all with my conditions. i cna appyl lik 10 of them at onse.

Vigor
Evade
Energy Sigil
Blink
Snare
Block
Blind
Root
Kite
Reflect
Stealth
Invuln

PvE

Pick anything

Agree with you on this. I like to play as all classes as well, but I see little point any more in playing anything besides warrior. It’s just on a whole different level than all the other classes. It doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same game as the other classes any more because they overbuffed it so much. And for an altaholic like me, it gets REALLY boring just playing the same class all the time. It’s just pointless to play anything but warrior because they all feel so weak in comparison to warrior, who can do everything they can do exponentially better. They need to either buff all the other classes to be on par with warrior, or nerf warrior. Even if they do buff the others, they still atleast need to tone down the stuns on warrior. its ridiculous that I can keep someone nearly permastunned while I regen the little damage they do to me completely. Other warriors seem to forget that other classes don’t fart out stability and condition removal like we do, except for guardians. The only thing that can really put up a fight at all is a really good guardian or another warrior.

i think your keyboard is the reason, buy a new one designed for better face rolling.

Seriously thieves crying loud! the most broken class in the entire game, no offense but you must be totally bad.

Nikkinella.8254:

Agree with you on this. I like to play as all classes as well, but I see little point any more in playing anything besides warrior. It’s just on a whole different level than all the other classes. It doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same game as the other classes any more because they overbuffed it so much. And for an altaholic like me, it gets REALLY boring just playing the same class all the time. It’s just pointless to play anything but warrior because they all feel so weak in comparison to warrior, who can do everything they can do exponentially better. They need to either buff all the other classes to be on par with warrior, or nerf warrior. Even if they do buff the others, they still atleast need to tone down the stuns on warrior. its ridiculous that I can keep someone nearly permastunned while I regen the little damage they do to me completely. Other warriors seem to forget that other classes don’t fart out stability and condition removal like we do, except for guardians. The only thing that can really put up a fight at all is a really good guardian or another warrior.

so you just agreed on a post full of fos arguments and flaw logic. and look at your last post, you just said that your 4k armor guardian gets backstab for 7-12k, please tell me that’s a little to non damage, and other classes don’t need to take down warrior with stability, i 1v1’ed a hammer war with 3 signet thief. and mesmer faceroll warrior(common sense) not because they fart out stabilities, you are just a noob, stop man, you should really do some research before posting BS and non sense.

Lighter.5631:

Nikkinella.8254:

Agree with you on this. I like to play as all classes as well, but I see little point any more in playing anything besides warrior. It’s just on a whole different level than all the other classes. It doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same game as the other classes any more because they overbuffed it so much. And for an altaholic like me, it gets REALLY boring just playing the same class all the time. It’s just pointless to play anything but warrior because they all feel so weak in comparison to warrior, who can do everything they can do exponentially better. They need to either buff all the other classes to be on par with warrior, or nerf warrior. Even if they do buff the others, they still atleast need to tone down the stuns on warrior. its ridiculous that I can keep someone nearly permastunned while I regen the little damage they do to me completely. Other warriors seem to forget that other classes don’t fart out stability and condition removal like we do, except for guardians. The only thing that can really put up a fight at all is a really good guardian or another warrior.

so you just agreed on a post full of fos arguments and flaw logic. and look at your last post, you just said that your 4k armor guardian gets backstab for 7-12k, please tell me that’s a little to non damage, and other classes don’t need to take down warrior with stability, i 1v1’ed a hammer war with 3 signet thief. and mesmer faceroll warrior(common sense) not because they fart out stabilities, you are just a noob, stop man, you should really do some research before posting BS and non sense.

Typical forum warrior response. The class is broken. Any one with half a brain can see that. Stop defending it. Maybe you need a crutch like permastuns to rely on, but some of us don’t. It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re one of those people who also think perplexity runes are balanced.

Nerf perma-invis THIEVES first before this omg! ppl pay attention real things cmon now.

You Thieves always forget this : You fight with WARRIOR , not a Spongebob.You can’t compare your HP with Warrior HP.You can’t compare your REGEN with Warrior REGEN.Thieves please stop screaming “Nerf Warriors”.People like you cools me from the game.

You also can´t compare a skill with a trait.

Lighter.5631:

then i ran away with 60% health with my insane mobility on my rifle.

I lold

When people cant see that warriors are a jack of all traits but master of non, should get their eyes check or just go back to playing club penguin.

Your argument is flawed and its clear you are too narrow minded to make any constructive suggestions. If your argument is that warrior is the only viable class, then clearly the problem is that the other classes are not viable and need to be buffed accordingly.

If you nerf the only viable class, then you have no viable classes – this is the flaw in your argument.

There’s absolutely no argument.
It’s a mom playing with her son and they got destroyed badly by some warriors. Now she can’t cope with the loss and the boy cries. Logical solution – nerf warrior to the ground.
And btw what kind of a grown up writes:
QUOTE : “Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second”

To calm things down for you – other classes are getting buffs so no worries there, you’ll be able to jump back on your thief and troll zergs.

Juba.8406:

i think your keyboard is the reason, buy a new one designed for better face rolling.

Seriously thieves crying loud! the most broken class in the entire game, no offense but you must be totally bad.

haha yeah I laughed at that too. Out of all professions, I THIEF complaining lol. Nothing quite spells “I can’t PvP” like picking a character that just hides, comes out of stealth to do 8k damage on a backstab and that hides again.

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth

Warrior gets 392 base with a 0.05 coefficient. Thief gets 293 with a 0.1 coefficient. Also, Healing Signet is a healing skill, not a passive trait. And you could outheal a Warrior by taking Shadow Protector which would provide you with Regeneration, putting you at 423 with a 0.175 coefficient.

warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves

So do Necromancers. Also, Engineers, Rangers and Mesmers have about 5k more than Thief.

Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab.

Anecdotal evidence, which btw is bullkitten. Backstab is a 1.2 or 2.4 coefficient whereas Staggering Blow is 1.3. In case you don’t know what that means, with identical stats, if a Warrior is Staggering Blowing you for 7,000, you’ll Backstab for 13,000. Heck, even if you count Merciless Hammer for the 25% damage increase, that’s still only a 1.625 coefficient, which is a farcry from Backstab. So the only way a Backstab deals less damage is an unfair comparison or Backstabbing the front.

Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.

The lowest cooldown on a burst skill is 7.75 seconds. The only way you’re going to stun more often than that is to use Mace and weaponswapping, but that just means you’re pulling off one stun every 5s. Unless you’re running into warrior who use Rune of Warrior, which no one does.

So in summary: All of your claims are exaggerated, misleading or anecdotal bullkitten.

Im sure they will nerf Warriors now that you and your son says you will leave the game if they dont lol…

…ohh and….bye

Olba.5376:

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth

Warrior gets 392 base with a 0.05 coefficient. Thief gets 293 with a 0.1 coefficient. Also, Healing Signet is a healing skill, not a passive trait. And you could outheal a Warrior by taking Shadow Protector which would provide you with Regeneration, putting you at 423 with a 0.175 coefficient.

warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves

So do Necromancers. Also, Engineers, Rangers and Mesmers have about 5k more than Thief.

Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab.

Anecdotal evidence, which btw is bullkitten. Backstab is a 1.2 or 2.4 coefficient whereas Staggering Blow is 1.3. In case you don’t know what that means, with identical stats, if a Warrior is Staggering Blowing you for 7,000, you’ll Backstab for 13,000. Heck, even if you count Merciless Hammer for the 25% damage increase, that’s still only a 1.625 coefficient, which is a farcry from Backstab. So the only way a Backstab deals less damage is an unfair comparison or Backstabbing the front.

Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.

The lowest cooldown on a burst skill is 7.75 seconds. The only way you’re going to stun more often than that is to use Mace and weaponswapping, but that just means you’re pulling off one stun every 5s. Unless you’re running into warrior who use Rune of Warrior, which no one does.

So in summary: All of your claims are exaggerated, misleading or anecdotal bullkitten.

I absolutely love this post! Good arguing post that points out all the exaggerations and straight out lies in the OP. Doing so by using mathematic and mechanics of the game! Theres no way the OP (or anyone else) can argue against this.

My Guardian is more useful and perform better than my Warrior in WvWvW.
My Thief does more damage and perform better than my Warrior in Dungeons.
My Mesmer is far superior and performs better than my Warrior in sPvP.

To the OP…. What´s the matter, guy? Warrior is a really good overall character, but isn´t the best on any spec: there are better tanks, better damagers and better controllers. I do not see the point. If you nerf the best overall but not the best specialized character in the game, yo come with a nono char good for nothing…

Olba pretty much has this down to a tee. Comparing traits with skills can’t be done. They are totally different. The warrior has many counters. Mesmers can easily counter us.

The main problem is that people select a build and go “that’s it, I can handle anything!”. Once they come up against a counter to the build they run, it’s an instant cry for a nerf.

The warrior class may need a tone down.

But for the love of god, I hope ANET do not listen to people like the OP, the kind of players that can’t even understand why Thieves have 10k HP.

There’s actually no reason for a thief to have 10k hp . No stunbreak ,
No block , no protection , no passive signet . I just don’t understand
What’s the reason to have 20k hp on a warrior with 0 vitality .

Anyway what makes a warrior OP is the regen and the condi immunity .
it takes heavy burst damage from a very skilled player to take down
a below average warrior player

Nikkinella.8254:

Lighter.5631:

Nikkinella.8254:

Agree with you on this. I like to play as all classes as well, but I see little point any more in playing anything besides warrior. It’s just on a whole different level than all the other classes. It doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same game as the other classes any more because they overbuffed it so much. And for an altaholic like me, it gets REALLY boring just playing the same class all the time. It’s just pointless to play anything but warrior because they all feel so weak in comparison to warrior, who can do everything they can do exponentially better. They need to either buff all the other classes to be on par with warrior, or nerf warrior. Even if they do buff the others, they still atleast need to tone down the stuns on warrior. its ridiculous that I can keep someone nearly permastunned while I regen the little damage they do to me completely. Other warriors seem to forget that other classes don’t fart out stability and condition removal like we do, except for guardians. The only thing that can really put up a fight at all is a really good guardian or another warrior.

so you just agreed on a post full of fos arguments and flaw logic. and look at your last post, you just said that your 4k armor guardian gets backstab for 7-12k, please tell me that’s a little to non damage, and other classes don’t need to take down warrior with stability, i 1v1’ed a hammer war with 3 signet thief. and mesmer faceroll warrior(common sense) not because they fart out stabilities, you are just a noob, stop man, you should really do some research before posting BS and non sense.

Typical forum warrior response. The class is broken. Any one with half a brain can see that. Stop defending it. Maybe you need a crutch like permastuns to rely on, but some of us don’t. It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re one of those people who also think perplexity runes are balanced.

yes anyone with half a brain. that’s probably you, because you can’t see the fos argument and flawed logic in OP.

and what perplexity runes? sorry me no pro wovwo. and no perplexity runes are not balanced and there’s a reason why its not in pvp, you are just an idiot.

a t s e.9614:

There’s actually no reason for a thief to have 10k hp . No stunbreak ,
No block , no protection , no passive signet . I just don’t understand
What’s the reason to have 20k hp on a warrior with 0 vitality .

Anyway what makes a warrior OP is the regen and the condi immunity .
it takes heavy burst damage from a very skilled player to take down
a below average warrior player

your experience in the game is so little that you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such idiocy for everyone to see. you clearly don’t play a thief or you just a no brain er.

a t s e.9614:

There’s actually no reason for a thief to have 10k hp . No stunbreak ,
No block , no protection , no passive signet . I just don’t understand
What’s the reason to have 20k hp on a warrior with 0 vitality .

U see no reasons why they have 10k hp?

maybe the fact that many of their specs revolve around constant stealthing?

maybe the fact that they can get access to regen/protection via stealing without even speccing for it like a regen war needs to(without even having protection)?

or maybe the possibility to achieve probably more than half of a warrior dodging capabilities, via traits/weapon skills(like sword/dagger for an example)?

Or maybe the possibility to avoid a good part of attacks thanks to blind with off hand pistol.

You are very right! I see no reason why thieves have 10k hp! Infact I think ANET hates thieves thats why they gave em 10k hp! Yes, that must be it.

Thieves main defense is trough avoidance ( be it Blinds, stealth, major dodges or a mix of these depending on how are you specced)

Warriors main defense is soaking up damage.

if youre getting bursted on by warrior and crying in the forums about it … you need to quit playing guild wars or better yet ..

roll a warrior and go into spvp and see how much of a champ you feel like when your getting your kitten handed to you by every other class in the game …

sure like any other class they can do one quick burst and literally one shot you with one skill on their bar but just yesterday i was hit with a 17k hear seeker from a thief and to do a hundred blades uninterrupted i have to use all 3 stances balanced , endure pain and use frenzy … thats without dying or being stopped by anything and ill still only finish if the person is standing still within about a 300 distance in front of me ….and not just dodge roll through me

where a thief can hit for that much whenever he can stealth and get a back stab off
a mesmer cant even be targeted , an ele can keep me on the ground while bursting on me .. a necro can drop all conditions on me and if i use runes of lyssa make me wish i never bought them when i use my elite skill .. and ranger can keep me pinned all day .. and engineer and nuke me with a few bombs and guardians can keep retaliation up all day ..

i dont even have access to retaliation — well if im crit on and for no more than 8 seconds every 15 …. but thats it and two ways to get stability on my own and the best boon i can get is less than 25 stacks of might unless someone is channeling something on me while i am blocking with a shield ..

and what do i have access to .. a kitten hammer and a bow or a couple swords

and youre getting your kitten to you by a warrior ..sure five warriors maybe but five of any class is going to clean house with anyone ..

Well if the thief is so good I wonder why nobody uses them and
There’s at least 4warriors per match in SoloQ .

Oh, you miss your earthshaker? No problem, not like you lose adrenaline or anything because that would be balanced. Keep on basking in those passive heals until it’s back up again you proud noble warrior you. Almost a thousand health passively recovered per second? That’s not overpowered. That’s just pure skill.

No other class can make mistake after mistake and still somehow magically end up on top. It’s broken beyond belief and everybody knows it. The players, ArenaNet and yes even the warrior population who sits on here all day long pretending they’re simply better than everyone else while facerolling away. But such is life in Guild Wars 2.

Well you can roll a warrior it’s simple . When everybody rolls a warrior
And delete all his other characters arenanet can add new gamemodes
instead of wasting time on balance.

a t s e.9614:

Well if the thief is so good I wonder why nobody uses them and
There’s at least 4warriors per match in SoloQ .

that’s another thing. When warior was garbage in sPvP. and Thief were actually top notch in it there was still the HP difference.

It’s the mmo-wheel turning. Now it might be the warrior turn, tomorrow might be another class turn. Welcome to MMOs, you might be new around here.

Fungalfoot.7213:

Almost a thousand health passively recovered per second? That’s not overpowered. That’s just pure skill.

that’s not overpowered, not even pure skill. I’ts just bullkitten.

Last time I checked it’s not a kittenty regen warrior build rocking the sPvP queues.

And even for WvW roaming, good warriors don’t roll around in lame regen builds.

That’s what clowns do and make videos fighting clueless people to impress other clueless people. (any reference to the “unkillable warrior” thread is is purely coincidental)

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Warriors are now the only viable class in the game. I used to love to play all different classes in this game but arena net has balanced this so poorly i could cry. My son and i play this game together in pvp and wvw and warriors are the only class that we or anyone else can play and beat any other class in this game with your eyes closed. Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth, warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves. Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab. I could go on forever about class verse class. Warriors also can do amazing condition damage depending on the build even better than most classes. One more thing Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.
I think it’s time to change the name of this game to Guild Warriors 2
Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second

IF that’s your attitude regarding the whole situation that you think is going on than honestly -we’re better off without you.
I think you fail to realize that warriors have weakpoints just like every other class.

Thieves are extremely strong – i should call a nerf on them – considering they have such a strong mechanic in terms of stealth.
Yesterday in WVW a 5 man group i was running was harassed non stop for over 10 minutes by 1 thief. We COULD NOT kill him. How is that for OP? And we’re not bad at WvW either.

You have no idea what you’re saying about hammer. And regarding backstab – I don’t really think you can play thief.

Instead of bringing something constructive you just point and hatefully say " nerf omg".

I really don’t see how you’d be missed.

Humbolio.2174:

Your argument is flawed and its clear you are too narrow minded to make any constructive suggestions. If your argument is that warrior is the only viable class, then clearly the problem is that the other classes are not viable and need to be buffed accordingly.

If you nerf the only viable class, then you have no viable classes – this is the flaw in your argument.

Finally – +1 to you sir!

He was right about the hammer , if your earthshaker miss
You still can spam it mindlessly until it hits something because
You dont lose your adrenaline . Thief is trash , i have both thief and warrior and the perma-stealth D\P trash
build is useless besides from trolling bad players that can’t
stop them from using HS through black powder . The
Problem with warrior right now it’s even terribl players can win
Pretty much like the spirit ranger 111 spam build

a t s e.9614:

The
Problem with warrior right now it’s even terribl players can win

I seriously doubt good mesmers, good thieves or whatever get rolled by terrible warriors.

I seriously, seriously doubt it.

And maybe if they do…it is probably because the player behind the “OP” warrior might (MIGHT) not be so terrible as you tought, and actually be as good as you as a player?

“you” used as in general speaking

I have a better idea, how about instead of a kneejerk reaction like most gamers make when classbalancing is an issue, they buff the underperforming classes instead of nerfing one into the ground like its peers. Walk to the Ranger forum or better yet the Engineers section, now there’s classes that need some love bad.

a t s e.9614:

He was right about the hammer , if your earthshaker miss
You still can spam it mindlessly until it hits something because
You dont lose your adrenaline .

It’s the same for every warrior weapon, it’s not like hammer is this random exception with adrenaline. Also if we DID lose our adrenaline every time we missed a adrenaline attack, what would be the point?
It takes TIME to build that up, losing it cause I got blinded would kitten me off to no end. Plus adrenaline attacks still go on a cool down. I think it’s like 7 seconds or something like that, not sure, would have to go ingame and look. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t 7-8 seconds kinda average for an interrupted skill cooldown? Aka those attacks are nothing new in usability but they take time to be able to use. (assuming my cooldown number is correct)

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Warriors are now the only viable class in the game. I used to love to play all different classes in this game but arena net has balanced this so poorly i could cry. My son and i play this game together in pvp and wvw and warriors are the only class that we or anyone else can play and beat any other class in this game with your eyes closed. Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth, warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves. Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab. I could go on forever about class verse class. Warriors also can do amazing condition damage depending on the build even better than most classes. One more thing Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.
I think it’s time to change the name of this game to Guild Warriors 2
Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second

Instead of nerf Warriors, how about buff other professions?

ITT: Misinformation and people who can’t adapt.

Wetpaw.3487:

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Warriors are now the only viable class in the game. I used to love to play all different classes in this game but arena net has balanced this so poorly i could cry. My son and i play this game together in pvp and wvw and warriors are the only class that we or anyone else can play and beat any other class in this game with your eyes closed. Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth, warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves. Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab. I could go on forever about class verse class. Warriors also can do amazing condition damage depending on the build even better than most classes. One more thing Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.
I think it’s time to change the name of this game to Guild Warriors 2
Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second

Instead of nerf Warriors, how about buff other professions?

Precisely. I love my Warrior but always find reasons to use my other characters as well. While everyone playing Warriors would be silly, nerfing them would be taking the easy way out-just carefully improve all the other Professions, if indeed they need be improved.

I believe this may be a trolling thread, really (no offense intended if that wasn’t the case-it just looks like it.)

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

Queen Kiearha.9873:

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

Well that’s the thing: There is no game mode that is centered on 1v1. So being good at 1v1s doesn’t mean anything at all in the bigger picture. For a team, the best a Warrior can do is disable one opponent (thus making a 5v5 into a 4v5) and cleave.

A warrior might have so-and-so high regeneration, but that’s pointless as soon as it’s not a 1v1 in an open environment.

You realize warrior will never be nerfed the way you all want it, Anet has openly said warrior class is exactly where they want it to be. Meaning its the only class in the game they think IS balanced and the rest of the classes are orbiting around warriors till they figure out how to get us right.

Just rolled a war in spvp for the first time ever, face rolled everyone and for the first half hour I only knew what the hammer adrenaline skill and hammer 5 skill did. If a thief came near me I’d block his initial burst then 3 shot him. Warriors need a nerf in their regen, damage, access to two 8 second stabilities, and condi removal. If you think they don’t deserve this you are delusional.

If the nerf criers would give a build that they think is OP including traits , utilities, armor, runes and sigils then people who actually play warrior would be able to tell them what the strengths and counters to the build are. Most people calling nerf in this thread are referring to the 30/30/30/30/30 and 10 utility skill build

Heta.8629:

If the nerf criers would give a build that they think is OP including traits , utilities, armor, runes and sigils then people who actually play warrior would be able to tell them what the strengths and counters to the build are. Most people calling nerf in this thread are referring to the 30/30/30/30/30 and 10 utility skill build

0/10/30/0/30 as long as you have a hammer and the ability to press keys 1-5 and your adrenaline key it’s pretty faceroll.

Eles used to be op but at least they had a highish skill cap, hammer warriors skill cap might be the lowest in the game.

a t s e.9614:

He was right about the hammer , if your earthshaker miss
You still can spam it mindlessly until it hits something because
You dont lose your adrenaline . Thief is trash , i have both thief and warrior and the perma-stealth D\P trash
build is useless besides from trolling bad players that can’t
stop them from using HS through black powder . The
Problem with warrior right now it’s even terribl players can win
Pretty much like the spirit ranger 111 spam build

If you’re saying thief is trash you have NO idea what you’re talking about.
I’ve encountered thieves in both sPVP and WvW that were incredibly good and were almost untouchable.

Hammer has some of the slowest animations in the game. You literally have to be asleep to miss a dodge or a skill that allows evade on those attacks.

Harper.4173:

If you’re saying thief is trash you have NO idea what you’re talking about.
I’ve encountered thieves in both sPVP and WvW that were incredibly good and were almost untouchable.

Hammer has some of the slowest animations in the game. You literally have to be asleep to miss a dodge or a skill that allows evade on those attacks.

Thief is trash sine the #3 S/D nerf, head on over to the thief forum and you will see everyone complaining and saying they are quitting the class.

Queen Kiearha.9873:

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

Yeah – you have no idea. He irritated the hell out of us by killing 2 of the squishy classes and forcing us into defending them and being unable to move.
ONE man locked down a very successful squad of 5. That’s not OP at all.

Your claims of not being killed once are laughable. Do you have anything else to back it up?

All you’ve done with this thread is vented by throwing mud at a class that you dislike. You’ve offered no constructive solutions, you’ve offered no idea on how to improve other classes, you’ve basically just pointed the finger and said " I don’t like this, Anet- nerf it plz plz or i quit".

Why did you even post? The value of your post is null. Void. If you want to be taken seriously take a moment and consider that when you post something your fellows on the forums deserve a modicum of decency. Bring some arguments, some solid arguments not things you just made up along the way.

I can make a thread now going " Nerf thief it is so op " where I will detail how " With my level 80 thief ( that i don’t even have) I have roflstomped through entire zergs, and never died once ever since making that character".
Fun stuff right?

Chaotic Storm.2815:

You realize warrior will never be nerfed the way you all want it, Anet has openly said warrior class is exactly where they want it to be. Meaning its the only class in the game they think IS balanced and the rest of the classes are orbiting around warriors till they figure out how to get us right.

That’s pretty much it. If they nerf it they’ll destroy the one pillar around which they could balance the classes.

B Rad.5416:

Just rolled a war in spvp for the first time ever, face rolled everyone and for the first half hour I only knew what the hammer adrenaline skill and hammer 5 skill did. If a thief came near me I’d block his initial burst then 3 shot him. Warriors need a nerf in their regen, damage, access to two 8 second stabilities, and condi removal. If you think they don’t deserve this you are delusional.

And I’ll just take you up on that.

Now replace your post’s keywords : Warrior = thief. Hammer = dagger. etc.
We can all claim we played the other class and face rolled. 30 minutes on a class doesn’t prove a point – except for the fact that you’re biased.

I don’t comment on other classes since I don’t really play them – so I don’t really know their inner workings apart from what I can experience by fighting with/against them.

Also warrior regen is strong because we can’t just stealth out or blink out of a fight.