Guild Wars 2

Harper.4173:

Yeah – you have no idea. He irritated the hell out of us by killing 2 of the squishy classes and forcing us into defending them and being unable to move.
ONE man locked down a very successful squad of 5. That’s not OP at all.

Your claims of not being killed once are laughable. Do you have anything else to back it up?

All you’ve done with this thread is vented by throwing mud at a class that you dislike. You’ve offered no constructive solutions, you’ve offered no idea on how to improve other classes, you’ve basically just pointed the finger and said " I don’t like this, Anet- nerf it plz plz or i quit".

Why did you even post? The value of your post is null. Void. If you want to be taken seriously take a moment and consider that when you post something your fellows on the forums deserve a modicum of decency. Bring some arguments, some solid arguments not things you just made up along the way.

I can make a thread now going " Nerf thief it is so op " where I will detail how " With my level 80 thief ( that i don’t even have) I have roflstomped through entire zergs, and never died once ever since making that character".
Fun stuff right?

Can you please go to the thief forum immediately and check out the state of the thief. Even using the best thief builds they are still sub-par. Also if a thief is able to troll your group of 5 your team is not good. Hammer warrior should be 3 shotting that bugger.

Harper.4173:

And I’ll just take you up on that.

Now replace your post’s keywords : Warrior = thief. Hammer = dagger. etc.
We can all claim we played the other class and face rolled. 30 minutes on a class doesn’t prove a point – except for the fact that you’re biased.

I don’t comment on other classes since I don’t really play them – so I don’t really know their inner workings apart from what I can experience by fighting with/against them.

Also warrior regen is strong because we can’t just stealth out or blink out of a fight.

A thief back stabbed me then I hammer stunned him and 3 shot him. Not to mention I have more hp then the thief, crazy regen, great at not dying from conditions.

Also if I was actually paying attention I would have taken out my shield to avoid the backstab and then just 3 shot the thief with 100%hp

B Rad.5416:

Harper.4173:

And I’ll just take you up on that.

Now replace your post’s keywords : Warrior = thief. Hammer = dagger. etc.
We can all claim we played the other class and face rolled. 30 minutes on a class doesn’t prove a point – except for the fact that you’re biased.

I don’t comment on other classes since I don’t really play them – so I don’t really know their inner workings apart from what I can experience by fighting with/against them.

Also warrior regen is strong because we can’t just stealth out or blink out of a fight.

A thief back stabbed me then I hammer stunned him and 3 shot him. Not to mention I have more hp then the thief, crazy regen, great at not dying from conditions.

Also if I was actually paying attention I would have taken out my shield to avoid the backstab and then just 3 shot the thief with 100%hp

Again – cool story.
I 1 shot all classes on my thief too.

DId he not have stunbreaks?

Harper.4173:

Again – cool story.
I 1 shot all classes on my thief too.

DId he not have stunbreaks?

Lets just 1v1 right now, I’ll got hammer war, (which I have played for 2 hours), and you play your thief, then we can report back to this thread the truth

a t s e.9614:

He was right about the hammer , if your earthshaker miss
You still can spam it mindlessly until it hits something because
You dont lose your adrenaline . Thief is trash , i have both thief and warrior and the perma-stealth D\P trash
build is useless besides from trolling bad players that can’t
stop them from using HS through black powder . The
Problem with warrior right now it’s even terribl players can win
Pretty much like the spirit ranger 111 spam build

No you can’t spam earthshaker till you hit something if you miss the first time.

It is on cool down and you need to wait for 7.75 to 8 seconds for it to be available again. If you had a warrior, you would know this.

I have 800 hours on my warrior and I know that there
Is a cooldown but when earthshaker gets evaded ,
You should lose your adrenaline . 7 sec CD it’s
Nothing for a ground target AoE stun that has a
85% crit chance with unspec foes trat . People that
defend the warrior probably can’t win with a balanced
Build without healing signet . Timing your heal is a
huge part in PvP and if you don’t have to do it ,
It because very easy compared to other classes .

a t s e.9614:

I have 800 hours on my warrior and I know that there
Is a cooldown but when earthshaker gets evaded ,
You should lose your adrenaline . 7 sec CD it’s
Nothing for a ground target AoE stun that has a
85% crit chance with unspec foes trat . People that
defend the warrior probably can’t win with a balanced
Build without healing signet . Timing your heal is a
huge part in PvP and if you don’t have to do it ,
It because very easy compared to other classes .

The thing is, if you lost adrenaline when you miss a burst skill, that would allow a warrior to burst thin air to trigger Cleansing Ire.

And trust me, you don’t want that. And before you suggest an ICD, that also wouldn’t go over well, as that would be a major nerf.

The thing is we’ve sort of become used to this sort of thing. The “this one thing is OP so here’s a list of 73 other things to nerf while you’re at it” mentality.

Just swap Opportunist with Unsuspecting Foe and be done with it.

The fact that a wide variety of Warrior builds are viable just seems to lead people to believe that every time a Warrior kills them, with a build specifically designed to kill them, they just go and attribute that to some all powerful build with everything rather than looking into what killed them.

Build diversity isn’t the enemy, it’s something other classes should have too. The fact that specific counter builds aren’t effective with other classes is a problem with your class not the Warrior.

a t s e.9614:

I have 800 hours on my warrior and I know that there
Is a cooldown but when earthshaker gets evaded ,
You should lose your adrenaline . 7 sec CD it’s
Nothing for a ground target AoE stun that has a
85% crit chance with unspec foes trat . People that
defend the warrior probably can’t win with a balanced
Build without healing signet . Timing your heal is a
huge part in PvP and if you don’t have to do it ,
It because very easy compared to other classes .

Still not spamming which is what you first stated which was a misrepresentation of actual facts.

If you wish to be taken serious and have credibility, you should use actual facts instead of misrepresenting them.

B Rad.5416:

Harper.4173:

Again – cool story.
I 1 shot all classes on my thief too.

DId he not have stunbreaks?

Lets just 1v1 right now, I’ll got hammer war, (which I have played for 2 hours), and you play your thief, then we can report back to this thread the truth

Lol – I haven’t even played thief.. That’s the deal – you can claim whatever you want on the forum but that doesn’t make it evidence.
And so can I.
And ultimately even if you do beat me – how does that prove anything?
You’re missing the point – the point is just because you made a class and beat some people with it – that doesn’t make the class OP.
Maybe you’re just skilled – maybe the people you played against were bad.
Maybe you didn’t even do what you claimed you did. The bottom line is you can’t use that sort of thing as a true and tested argument.

Harper.4173:

Lol – I haven’t even played thief.. That’s the deal – you can claim whatever you want on the forum but that doesn’t make it evidence.
And so can I.
And ultimately even if you do beat me – how does that prove anything?
You’re missing the point – the point is just because you made a class and beat some people with it – that doesn’t make the class OP.
Maybe you’re just skilled – maybe the people you played against were bad.
Maybe you didn’t even do what you claimed you did. The bottom line is you can’t use that sort of thing as a true and tested argument.

Go play one in spvp for two hour, then we will both have the same amount of experience with the classes. You are saying thiefs are op and can own a warrior so I just want you to prove it. So see you in two hours?

Serious question though rating classes upper-tier, mid-tier, and lower-tier where would you rate the warrior right now?

If we think about it , warrior is kind of balanced : great sustain
defense, condition removal , damage and mobility . The problem is
no other classes can have everything . And the skill vs reward
Is a problem too , a class like an ele has to be a top player
to counter an average\ below-average warrior . They need
To make give a better sustain to other classes to be able
To survive and eventually kill a warrior . Conditions builds
are not a counter because of cleansing ire and zerker stance
and heavy burst build have no sustain . Once the warrior
manages to survive\counter the main burst , the person becomes
a free kill . So yea the problem is the lack of sustain of other classes.

Anet: What’s that? Warriors need a buff? Okay.

Warriors are terrible and clearly need a buff. When i engage more than 2 players at once i usually dont win, i have to run away. I should be able to 3v1 with no prob. Anet plz fix.

cc warriors are only viable in a 5v5 sPVP setting from my experience. cc warriors get rolled just like any other class and really only shine in a 1v1 setting. Just wait until every warrior is running condi cus cc gets a nerf then there will be tons of qq about how condi warrior needs a nerf cus its just to powerful. l2dodgeroll. If you cant beat a cc warrior I think you need to reevaluate your build.

It doesn’t come down to one build per class sometimes you just need to change your battle tactics. If your getting beaten by one class’s build repeatedly do something different.

Queen Kiearha.9873:

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

Could those reactions possibly have anything to do with your immature and agressive OP? You are behaving like a spoilt child in your OP! Threatening the company to quit the game if YOU dont get your will through. What valuations does that kind of behaviour teach your son?

I can assure you that threatening Anet that you and your son will quit the game if they dont do what you tell them to do is NOT the best way to make them take you seriously in an way or form!

IF the Warrior class actually is overpowered im sure they are aware of this and are working on possible solutions/ideas how to fix it in a good way right as im writhing this post. It could also be that they are waiting/watching how the meta game is evolving.
It could very well be that the Warrior isnt OP at all but instead other classes needs some time to figure things out.

Either way im 100% sure that the developers are following game balance closely. They dont want their game to look bad you know as that would make their company lose money.

Op, I completely agree with you because afterall; you speak the truth.

You deseerve my honor and appreciation for your bravery and your sincerity; not only exposing this class overpowerd status but also, ‘for not being in denial’ as a warrior.

Thank You!

a t s e.9614:

If we think about it , warrior is kind of balanced : great sustain
defense, condition removal , damage and mobility . The problem is
no other classes can have everything . And the skill vs reward
Is a problem too , a class like an ele has to be a top player
to counter an average\ below-average warrior . They need
To make give a better sustain to other classes to be able
To survive and eventually kill a warrior . Conditions builds
are not a counter because of cleansing ire and zerker stance
and heavy burst build have no sustain . Once the warrior
manages to survive\counter the main burst , the person becomes
a free kill . So yea the problem is the lack of sustain of other classes.

Then ask for sustain on other classes – not nerfs for warrior.
You people don’t understand that warrior is not a class that has everything. It can do a lot of things but is the best at none of them.

@B Rad – referring to what exactly would you like me to rate them?

Ok, I’m not gonna argue, but…

back in my day, thieves used to teleport out of stuns. What changed?

So the point of this kind of threads is to take warrior back to what he was in the release days. its good now sure but doesn’t mean u have to take down the hp regen, the mobility , the skills range, damage and bla bla to make it “ok”, that just mean u want to crash them like u were doing for a long time.
Lemme ask you, if u think they need a nerf, what is op about them ? as i read in every thread around they have HIGH condi damage with sustain (sword-shield/bow bunker like), high life regen (adrenaline, singet, no one go for banners and shouts if want to do some damage), high mobility (2h swrd / 1h swrd), stunlock (mace-shield/Hammer).
Here comes the real question, all those thing come in the SAME build ? nope, so whats so bad about them? nothing really, the problem is that warrior is the FIRST balanced class EVER, today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective.
IMO the problem is that other classes lack of possibilities or effective-building options.
Dont get me wrong they need some tweeks, but hell a lot of ppl asking for nerfs everywhere .. that is just overreacting with a bit of QQ

Burnfall.9573:

Shukaku.6287:

So the point of this kind of threads is to take warrior back to what he was in the release days. its good now sure but doesn’t mean u have to take down the hp regen, the mobility , the skills range, damage and bla bla to make it “ok”, that just mean u want to crash them like u were doing for a long time.
Lemme ask you, if u think they need a nerf, what is op about them ? as i read in every thread around they have HIGH condi damage with sustain (sword-shield/bow bunker like), high life regen (adrenaline, singet, no one go for banners and shouts if want to do some damage), high mobility (2h swrd / 1h swrd), stunlock (mace-shield/Hammer).
Here comes the real question, all those thing come in the SAME build ? nope, so whats so bad about them? nothing really, the problem is that warrior is the FIRST balanced class EVER, today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective.
IMO the problem is that other classes lack of possibilities or effective-building options.
Dont get me wrong they need some tweeks, but hell a lot of ppl asking for nerfs everywhere .. that is just overreacting with a bit of QQ

Please provide factual evidence to your staatement,

“today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective”.

First, start with the ranger class than on……

ik what u are aiming for, like getting mad with me but not reading what i wrote
today “best build” for rangers is the spirit one, he is worst than anyone else at other roles, and that was what i was talking about, the warrior itself is not the problem, the main problem is every other class is out of build diversity
or u see a lot of bunker thief, support necro, or eles out of the support role. Just try to understand there is just little option for enyone else.
Also i main necro since release, and believe me im with those poor rangers, maybe u don’t know, but necros used to have more than 120bugs, they were even worst than warriors those days, rangers are by far in the worst place atm not really a good class to compare don’t u think ?

what do u want as support ? warrior or ele-engi-guardian
do u really want a warrior healing you ?
as a bunker/holder ? warrior or guardian-mesmer-necro
as condi ? warrior or necro ?
mobility ? warrior or thief ?
burst ? warrior or thief and maybe ele?
as u can see there is a lot of places where warrior can do really well, but its not the best at everything, and yes there is no better stunlocker than warrior thats why i think he needs a tweek there. not going to get into numbers and really specific stuff bc is a game and i don’t like math but u can just try to relax a bit, and don’t try to get every new stuff down, bc the class u like is not buffed or at the same spot, just wait as i did for like a year to have a decent necro

I BET all of this would be less of a problem is warrior’s power was left as it is.

But modified to make sure its gameplay becomes more active.

Example: modify Healing Signet to work like guardian’s Signet of Resolve. Leave HPS unchanged, but put it on the active part, while the passive effects gives something else.

Change Cleansing Ire into something else (or remove the condition removal part) and put it as a stable F2 skill, which consumes Adrenaline to remove conditions.

This would be a buff and a nerf: you aren’t forced to go 20 into defense anymore, and maybe you could add new things to cleansing Ire.

But you can’t burst and cleanse at the same time anymore.

Shukaku.6287:

Burnfall.9573:

Shukaku.6287:

So the point of this kind of threads is to take warrior back to what he was in the release days. its good now sure but doesn’t mean u have to take down the hp regen, the mobility , the skills range, damage and bla bla to make it “ok”, that just mean u want to crash them like u were doing for a long time.
Lemme ask you, if u think they need a nerf, what is op about them ? as i read in every thread around they have HIGH condi damage with sustain (sword-shield/bow bunker like), high life regen (adrenaline, singet, no one go for banners and shouts if want to do some damage), high mobility (2h swrd / 1h swrd), stunlock (mace-shield/Hammer).
Here comes the real question, all those thing come in the SAME build ? nope, so whats so bad about them? nothing really, the problem is that warrior is the FIRST balanced class EVER, today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective.
IMO the problem is that other classes lack of possibilities or effective-building options.
Dont get me wrong they need some tweeks, but hell a lot of ppl asking for nerfs everywhere .. that is just overreacting with a bit of QQ

Please provide factual evidence to your staatement,

“today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective”.

First, start with the ranger class than on……

ik what u are aiming for, like getting mad with me but not reading what i wrote
today “best build” for rangers is the spirit one, he is worst than anyone else at other roles, and that was what i was talking about, the warrior itself is not the problem, the main problem is every other class is out of build diversity
or u see a lot of bunker thief, support necro, or eles out of the support role. Just try to understand there is just little option for enyone else.
Also i main necro since release, and believe me im with those poor rangers, maybe u don’t know, but necros used to have more than 120bugs, they were even worst than warriors those days, rangers are by far in the worst place atm not really a good class to compare don’t u think ?

what do u want as support ? warrior or ele-engi-guardian
do u really want a warrior healing you ?
as a bunker/holder ? warrior or guardian-mesmer-necro
as condi ? warrior or necro ?
mobility ? warrior or thief ?
burst ? warrior or thief and maybe ele?
as u can see there is a lot of places where warrior can do really well, but its not the best at everything, and yes there is no better stunlocker than warrior thats why i think he needs a tweek there. not going to get into numbers and really specific stuff bc is a game and i don’t like math but u can just try to relax a bit, and don’t try to get every new stuff down, bc the class u like is not buffed or at the same spot, just wait as i did for like a year to have a decent necro

With sincerity, i’m not mad at you, I’m just tired and frustrated of how and why this class ever got to where it is now; to their Overpowered status + Overpowered weapon.

For i always believe, nothing ‘slips by Arena.nets’ eyes’, in other word; nothing they do isn’t done without intentional; to me that’s how i see it

Again as i will continue to say, warriors should be the strongest class in the game but not be the strongest without any weakness whatsoever and on top of that, to fully equip them with overpowerful weapons which outputs excessive unlimitted stun and damage..

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I never understood why people complained about the perma stealth thieves. I personally could never play one because it just bored me but hey, if they’re permanently in stealth that means they’re not damaging you so move on. Warriors are probably the only class that consistently gives me trouble no matter what class or build I’m using. And just as soon as I think I’m getting the upperhand and kill them, they revive, come back with healing signet, mace and hammer and just perma stun me to death.

It’s like if they start losing they instantly have to pull out every cheap trick in the book. “Oh I died because this person outplayed me, better switch to my passive regen+perma stun build and just slide my face across the keyboard”. And don’t think I’m just hating on warriors, other classes do it to, just to less effect. Thieves commonly(at least from my experience) will switch to dagger mainhand after dying a few times and basically just HS over and over. Now this isn’t entirely effective because I make most of my builds with this in mind and usually have at least one block on most of my classes.

I understand they don’t want to severely hamper warrior because they are probably the only predominately melee class (maybe guardians too but they have staff and scepter so meh) but that doesn’t mean make them the premier melee class that should you try to fight in melee range without huge amounts of mobility you will lose to.

In my opinion a lot of these issues could be fixed by toning down healing signet to be more like other signets so that it activates only ever few seconds instead of every second. This would encourage more active gameplay from warrior and force them to actually manage their healing ability instead of just slotting it and forgetting about it because as it stands, if the person fighting the warrior can get him down to low enough health that he’d consider using signet then chances are it is already too late barring some major kiting.

But either warrior needs to be toned down or the rest of the classes need varying levels of buffs to put them on par and honestly, nerfing warrior instead of buffing all the other classes seems like a simpler solution…

+1000000000

Wariors are OP. I hope the balance dev with the curly hair stops his bias towards warrior. The twitch video’s, showed his passion for warrior, and that passion, is bias. I know this sounds bad. But we all are biased to some profession (playstyle we like more). I can honestly say since start of game, i still haven’t been able to choose a main. Simple cause their ain’t no best (apart from warrior, but warrior is boring to me, so i don’t play it). And all 7 other professions have issues in dealing with underpowerdness compared to warrior.

So I join the call to (very small hope, i know it’s almost unbreakable) break the Anet bias towards warriors. I know you have your reasons, and you won’t speak out loud here, cause you don’t want to make the warriors kitten ed. Fact remains = warrrios = 20% better in everything then all other professions. The best example is this:

‘Necro doesnt deserve mobility, class is all about attrition’. Funny thing that warrior is:

1) better then attrition then necro, in every way but especially passive healing.
2) has the best mobility in game.

It can’t get more ironic then this Anet.

Queen Kiearha.9873:

Warriors are now the only viable class in the game. I used to love to play all different classes in this game but arena net has balanced this so poorly i could cry. My son and i play this game together in pvp and wvw and warriors are the only class that we or anyone else can play and beat any other class in this game with your eyes closed. Here is an example, Warriors get 400 health per tick with their healing signet and with a Thief you only get 300 health per tick while in stealth, warriors also have almost 10k health more than thieves. Warriors can hit with skill 4 on hammer up to 7k while a full berserker thief hits for only 6k to 9k [depending on the toughness of the character] in stealth on a backstab. I could go on forever about class verse class. Warriors also can do amazing condition damage depending on the build even better than most classes. One more thing Hammer Stun really?? they can use it like every 4 seconds depending on their build.
I think it’s time to change the name of this game to Guild Warriors 2
Please nerf the warriors now or I and my son are done playing a game with only 1 fun class because all the other classes are second.

I have seen many good and viable points from all of your posts so far but i also see many rude comments like name calling. I feel sorry for those people.
I have lvl 80’s of elementilist, thief, ranger, warrior,gaurdian and neco. I have been playing this game since beta and I am also a vet of GW 1. I have plenty of experince with this game and almost all classes. Yes as a thief you can troll zergs or irritate a group 1v5 but that’s all u can really do is irritate them. You can heal zergs as a ele or a gaurd, etc… I could talk forever about this. The fact remains since arena net has nerfed the warrior i have not been killed once as a warrior by another class besides a warrior and I know there are better players then myself in other classes, PvP and WvW. Try to 1v1 some other classes as a warrior and you will see. Please give me more feed back and TY

First of all I have both level 80 thief and warrior with different sets. I both play WvW and spvp with my chars. I want to say play with warrior is easier than thief. If you are a bad thief all class can kill you easier. If you are a bad warrior with good build you can survive better than thief but they can kill you anyway. However if you are a perfect thief you can handle with 1v5 and you can kill all of the party. Warriors maximum limit is 1v3 I think. I will suggest Yishis videos on youtube for perfect thief play. But warriors borders are limited enemy always see you. Also you can track warrior moves and can dodge their stuns etc. But if you meet with a good thief, he will hit his backsteps to you. Thief is the most connected class with player. Thief is dependent on player skills. Warrior is warrior, front line combat class with easy play. In conclusion I think when skilled warrior and thief meet, I bet for thief.

Perfect Thief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHOpACoX4ic
Perfect Warrior: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhPoS-cZt0

Burnfall.9573:

Op, I completely agree with you because afterall; you speak the truth.

You deseerve my honor and appreciation for your bravery and your sincerity; not only exposing this class overpowerd status but also, ‘for not being in denial’ as a warrior.

Thank You!

Yea….other then she doesnt!

To much immaturity on GW2 forums! I went WoW (8 years)—->Rift—->WoW—-GW2, and I can honestly say that even the WoW forums are FAR more adult and mature then GW2 forums! Soooo many crybabies in this game!

I dont see myself sticking to GW2 if these first weeks impression of the overall GW2 community turns out to be true.
Its sad because it really seems like an awsome game otherwise. Its just that personaly, a good community is one of my top priorities when deciding what game I will be putting my time into!

Burnfall.9573:

Shukaku.6287:

Burnfall.9573:

Shukaku.6287:

So the point of this kind of threads is to take warrior back to what he was in the release days. its good now sure but doesn’t mean u have to take down the hp regen, the mobility , the skills range, damage and bla bla to make it “ok”, that just mean u want to crash them like u were doing for a long time.
Lemme ask you, if u think they need a nerf, what is op about them ? as i read in every thread around they have HIGH condi damage with sustain (sword-shield/bow bunker like), high life regen (adrenaline, singet, no one go for banners and shouts if want to do some damage), high mobility (2h swrd / 1h swrd), stunlock (mace-shield/Hammer).
Here comes the real question, all those thing come in the SAME build ? nope, so whats so bad about them? nothing really, the problem is that warrior is the FIRST balanced class EVER, today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective.
IMO the problem is that other classes lack of possibilities or effective-building options.
Dont get me wrong they need some tweeks, but hell a lot of ppl asking for nerfs everywhere .. that is just overreacting with a bit of QQ

Please provide factual evidence to your staatement,

“today every class have a “possition” in the meta, if they get out of the popular builds thats not optimal so ppl get mad bc they can choose to go for the style they want and still being effective”.

First, start with the ranger class than on……

ik what u are aiming for, like getting mad with me but not reading what i wrote
today “best build” for rangers is the spirit one, he is worst than anyone else at other roles, and that was what i was talking about, the warrior itself is not the problem, the main problem is every other class is out of build diversity
or u see a lot of bunker thief, support necro, or eles out of the support role. Just try to understand there is just little option for enyone else.
Also i main necro since release, and believe me im with those poor rangers, maybe u don’t know, but necros used to have more than 120bugs, they were even worst than warriors those days, rangers are by far in the worst place atm not really a good class to compare don’t u think ?

what do u want as support ? warrior or ele-engi-guardian
do u really want a warrior healing you ?
as a bunker/holder ? warrior or guardian-mesmer-necro
as condi ? warrior or necro ?
mobility ? warrior or thief ?
burst ? warrior or thief and maybe ele?
as u can see there is a lot of places where warrior can do really well, but its not the best at everything, and yes there is no better stunlocker than warrior thats why i think he needs a tweek there. not going to get into numbers and really specific stuff bc is a game and i don’t like math but u can just try to relax a bit, and don’t try to get every new stuff down, bc the class u like is not buffed or at the same spot, just wait as i did for like a year to have a decent necro

With sincerity, i’m not mad at you, I’m just tired and frustrated of how and why this class ever got to where it is now; to their Overpowered status + Overpowered weapon.

For i always believe, nothing ‘slips by Arena.nets’ eyes’, in other word; nothing they do isn’t done without intentional; to me that’s how i see it

Again as i will continue to say, warriors should be the strongest class in the game but not be the strongest without any weakness whatsoever and on top of that, to fully equip them with overpowerful weapons which outputs excessive unlimitted stun and damage..

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You good sir are delusional.
Warriors are not and never were without any weakness whatsoever. Do we even play the same game?

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

So I join the call to (very small hope, i know it’s almost unbreakable) break the Anet bias towards warriors. I know you have your reasons, and you won’t speak out loud here, cause you don’t want to make the warriors kitten ed. Fact remains = warrrios = 20% better in everything then all other professions. The best example is this:

‘Necro doesnt deserve mobility, class is all about attrition’. Funny thing that warrior is:

1) better then attrition then necro, in every way but especially passive healing.
2) has the best mobility in game.

It can’t get more ironic then this Anet.

Where do you get these percentages? 20% ?
Do you make them up as you go along?

Players like you – biased, hateful and misinformed have to really stop. Just stop this nonsense already – it is getting old.

As i will continue to say, my mission is to expose and to stand by the truth, how is that delusional to begin with?

You’re a warrior; read your forums and see that i am not the only Truthbearer..
read the threads and posts to to see how "delusional or " biased, hateful and misinformed" i am.

I encourage you to take a look at this demostration of The Truth and to explain this to me and the truthbearers of how “delusion” i am and they are.

Thread; “just nerf heal sig to silence the whiners”…
= (Fungalfoo— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvt4elvUzGU )

Harper, Is this “nonsense”?

Harper, are you going to tell me, what you’re witnessing is “an act of delusion/s”?

I hope not!

As the saying goes, "the Truth is not hidden in Shame, for it is the Bearer of Light in exposing Darkness "

To my Comrades….

Be Brave, Embrace the Truth, Expose the Truth, Shine your Light into this Darknesss; Warrior class must be nerf at all cost.

Burnfall.9573:

As i will continue to say, my mission is to expose and to stand by the truth, how is that delusional to begin with?

You’re a warrior; read your forums and see that i am not the only Truthbearer..
read the threads and posts to to see how "delusional or " biased, hateful and misinformed" i am.

I encourage you to take a look at this demostration of The Truth and to explain this to me and the truthbearers of how “delusion” i am and they are.

Thread; “just nerf heal sig to silence the whiners”…
= (Fungalfoo— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvt4elvUzGU )

Harper, Is this “nonsense”?

Harper, are you going to tell me, what you’re witnessing is “an act of delusion/s”?

I hope not!

As the saying goes, "the Truth is not hidden in Shame, for it is the Light in exposing Darkness "

To my Commarades….

Be Brave, Embrace the Truth, Expose the Truth, Shine your Light to this Darknesss; Warrior class must be nerf at all cost.

We can solve this by improving BOTH warrior’s gameplay and gameplay against warriors, without actually nerfing anything. Making warrior a less passive, more complex class, changing healing signet to become challenging.

We should have learnt this lesson: in GW2, EASY=STRONG. An easier build lets you focus more on the surrounding. Easy to play is an attribute as important as damage, tankiness and support.

This is why the only OP aspect about the signet is that it’s easy to use. Leave it as powerful as it is, but make it harder to use. And then I bet less people would find it OP. You could even make it more powerful, then (maintaining the risk/reward ratio, though).

But neither you nor the one attacking you won’t listen.

You truth is just weak, crippled ad very limited. It is a truth that brings us back. A truth we should fight to turn into a lie.

And a half truth. There are better ones.

Burnfall.9573:

As i will continue to say, my mission is to expose and to stand by the truth, how is that delusional to begin with?

You’re a warrior; read your forums and see that i am not the only Truthbearer..
read the threads and posts to to see how "delusional or " biased, hateful and misinformed" i am.

I encourage you to take a look at this demostration of The Truth and to explain this to me and the truthbearers of how “delusion” i am and they are.

Thread; “just nerf heal sig to silence the whiners”…
= (Fungalfoo— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvt4elvUzGU )

Harper, Is this “nonsense”?

Harper, are you going to tell me, what you’re witnessing is “an act of delusion/s”?

I hope not!

As the saying goes, "the Truth is not hidden in Shame, for it is the Bearer of Light in exposing Darkness "

To my Comrades….

Be Brave, Embrace the Truth, Expose the Truth, Shine your Light into this Darknesss; Warrior class must be nerf at all cost.

Truthbearer? With a capital T? You’re a riot – i’ll give you that.
You really think you’ve got some higher meaning stuff going on here? Talk about a messiah complex.

Warrior class must be nerfed at all cost? What sort of attitude is that?
What about “Classes should be balanced” and " Other underpowered classes should be buffed up to be on par" .
That doesn’t sound just as cool for you – does it?

I’ve seen that thread – it’s full of people who are hateful and poorly informed. They are convinced that the way to make class balance better is to destroy a class because they dislike it. Just like that.
Not buff other classes – not make things better for everyone – just make them worse for the class that they hate.
You and them – you’re all delusional and malvolent – I don’t really understand why you’ve chosen to be like this but I will stand by what I said.

You’re not on a mission – you’re a guy who’s sharing a opinion on a forum.
Truthbearer? It’s amazing how far people will go. You don’t have any absolute truth to expose – you have an opinion ( a biased and hateful one) which you’re spamming because you don’t know any better.

Due to the inflammatory tone of this thread, it will be closed. Please keep in mind that if you want to discuss issues on our forums, you have to do it in a constructive way.