What are you running for Zerg WvW?

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Posted by: bLind.6278

bLind.6278

I just started running WvW more seriously a few days ago and am trying to better prepare my warrior for better effectiveness. I’m currently running full berserkers gear, and while I can manage to survive with good positioning/CD’s’, I still definitely feel a little more squishy than I rightfully should be. For the record, I’m running This Build, which obviously provides great damage but requires more micromanaging to survive than I’d like.

I’m considering a more standard Soldiers armor with zerk trinkets/weapons, but I’m just curious if anyone else has any other suggestions.

One foot out the door, yet again.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

You have the right idea with with your build. The problem with asking questions on this forums id you get opinions from a lot of people and if you don’t know better you will take the wrong advice.

Instead of going soldiers for more dmg reduction there are a lot of other things you can do instead that are better. let me give you a list of other things you can do. You can do just one or all or some.

1. Try RR instead of laststand and use outrage + eternal.
2. Try Equipping Mara weapons just the weapons.
3. Try some differnt runes that offer dmg reduction like Durability more defensive, Or Scrapper more offensive.
4. Use some other food like the dmg reduction food that you can craft -10% dmg reduction.
5. Try some different utility food like the Ferocious sharpening stones that give toughness and crit dammage.
6. Dont use Oils when you are full zerk or “zerker like” Its not a good use of stats and it lowers your “effective power” always use stones on “zerker” Oils are for when your crit is like 20% or somthing really way too low and you are trying to get to 30% on like a full tank build and still a lot of people would argue that means the you didnt properly min/max and thats why you have to use oils so then your build is bad in that scenario.
7. Try better condition clears and use clear on swap or CI. if thats an issue.

“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Ya try what you linked me, you will notice a huge difference in surviability with that. Without a huge loss to damage like if you would of did soldiers.

“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: emkelly.2371

emkelly.2371

Celestial Hybrid /zerk weapons/ malandru’s Runes. but I run a commander build.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Durability runes are so brokenly OP in WvW (esp in zergs) that any Warrior not running them must like deliberately gimping themselves.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Durability runes are so brokenly OP in WvW (esp in zergs) that any Warrior not running them must like deliberately gimping themselves.

Gw2 is all about gimmick.

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: HatSimulator.9362

HatSimulator.9362

Gates of Madness [DUI]
Main Warrior | Every other class at 80
I only play WvW

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Posted by: bLind.6278

bLind.6278

Aside from raw power numbers being somewhat low, both of those look good defensively while still having plenty of crit chance and crit damage.

What about something like full Wanderers with Mara weapons and Zerker trinkets? You can use oils to get above 40% crit without Fury, you’re still hovering around 200% crit damage, and you still manage 2250+ power regardless of food choice, while keeping ~2950 toughness and 25k health. Plus, you get the even 33% boon dura with Durability runes for the party.

Obviously there are pros and cons to every build, but for coordinated zerging it feels like you should have enough Bloodlust stacks and party buffs to make up for what you lose giving up straight berserker to gain tons of toughness/vit.

Again, I can play a full berserker build and survive, but I feel like a lot of my potential is wasted from having to bounce in and out of the fight. I spend a lot of time throwing down CC with hammer and then GS3ing back out of the fight so I don’t get exploded on if my cooldowns aren’t up. I’m just looking for something that I can sit in fights a little bit longer with and potentially do more than harass and back out.

I know that full Mara with zerker is meta atm, and that’s fine, and if necessary I can run that. I’m just trying to min/max as well as possible to have the most positive impact overall.

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Posted by: bLind.6278

bLind.6278

Ugh. Guild leader wants me to run FULL Soldiers shout meta. How boring.

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Posted by: zedapoc.1493

zedapoc.1493

Ugh. Guild leader wants me to run FULL Soldiers shout meta. How boring.

Eww, talk about the lowest common denominator…get a new guild would be my advice lol.

Warrior shout build hasn’t been on the same continent as meta since HoT.

Go destroyer or go home.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Ugh. Guild leader wants me to run FULL Soldiers shout meta. How boring.

Which is why I haven’t joined any of the bigger wvw guilds yet. I have no interest in running boring builds. I spend my time in WvW roaming solo or in pairs. Sometimes meeting up with other roamers or joining a pug zerg to pick off enemy stragglers.

I play this game for fun and don’t mind making some adjustments but don’t want to completely change my build/playstyle if its gonna make me bored.

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“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "

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Posted by: emkelly.2371

emkelly.2371

Shout Warrior? Really? wow, okay, listen, tell your guild leader to Read my Warrior 101, and maybe also review the patch notes for the last, i don’t know…2 years? Shouts were nerfed a long time ago to the point where they are useless. Also, the shout build was never meant to be a zerg build. It was great for Commanders, because it allowed them to stay alive.

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Posted by: The Not so Evil Overlord.6305

The Not so Evil Overlord.6305

Shout Warrior? Really? wow, okay, listen, tell your guild leader to Read my Warrior 101, and maybe also review the patch notes for the last, i don’t know…2 years? Shouts were nerfed a long time ago to the point where they are useless. Also, the shout build was never meant to be a zerg build. It was great for Commanders, because it allowed them to stay alive.

It depends on how well comped up your group is really. If it’s completely unorganized then shout warrior with Rune of the Trooper is actually pretty effective. (And just to make sure there’s no misunderstandings, I’m also assuming the presence of a traited warhorn, since that’s part of the standard build) It’s one of the more steady condi cleansers in the game. It’s not perfect at it, but if you don’t have anyone else covering that task… It’s pretty solid.
Hammerstun Shout stopped being meta in high tier WvW with HoT, but that’s mostly because pre-comped guild groups are solving their condi issues with other classes. (Mostly with Revs and Eles. Though Guards with Cleansing Flames are involved as well.) Not because the build itself doesn’t work anymore. Other things are just outshining it.
Running pure soldiers is extreme overkill though. You can easily replace a lot of your trinkets with zerker gear. 3.5K armor and 30K health is extreme even for a commander. Unless they seriously need those banners dropping.

Egbert the Erudite, of Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: StonePower.8321

StonePower.8321

Shout war isn’t good anymore, the cleanse gets outperformed by guard/heal eles and mainly rev resistance share. You sacrifice a lot of dmg and it’s simply not worth it.

Gear-wise it’s between zerk/marauder armor and strength or resistance runes, depends on how tanky you want to run. Weapons and trinkets are fine in zerk.
Absorption sigil on hammer is a really strong option for boonsteal with rupturing smash.

Like someone said earlier -10% dmg food is BiS but saffron bread stays a strong alternative. Ferocious sharp stones are a must have though, they simply give you the most stats from all the other utility effects.

You can easily compare effective power/health between builds by using gw2power.com, with that you get an idea of your ideal build,

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Posted by: Elegie.3620

Elegie.3620

These days, I use this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJARSnMdAlhgVhAehAElilqATpHE7yBILuGQA4d02antA-TVyHABtr+DAHBAv0FA/hAQgLAQAPAAmUCG++D9o8jUAZuMC-w

I’ve preferred Commander rather than Marauder for the armor, because I like the toughness and boon duration more than vitality and crit damage. Coupled with durability, I’ve had enough sustain for my taste (weapons and trinkets being full berserker).

In terms of food, the Plate of Mussels Gnashblade is too good to not take. As for the other one, it depends on the price. I usually go for cheap 6/4% or 5/3% additional power, but if you can afford better, don’t hesitate.

In terms of traits, I use a PvP template, works nicely. Destruction of the Empowered rather than Brawler’s Recovery is certainly an option to consider, and possibly adopt. I like Head Butt because of how it fills adrenaline, however the War Banner has always been strong in group fights.

As sigils, I’m happy with Energy/Draining on the hammer, but would probably reconsider Hydromancy/Leeching on the GS (I have them because I roam a lot, Bloodlust somewhere would be good).

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Re: the Plate of Mussels Gnashblade. When it says 10% damage reduction is that for Power and Condi damage reduction or just power?

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Posted by: Packit.2953

Packit.2953

Just power

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