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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

nicknamenick.2437

I just love it when playing warrior

Warriors can pressure others now forcing them to go defensive!

Thats what i think a warrior should be in the first place!

This patch made that happend.


Before we had to go full defensive with longbow to survive and it worked because we could kill others but it takes time… ofc back then you could go full zerker also but it just didnt do enough dmg vs bunkers

Now full zerker will kill bunkers (bunkers didnt even have to dodge before.. when they make mistakes they will go down now)


What i hope for?

-little speed increase on rush
-earthshaker fix
-rework of rifle
-was hoping for some love for physical skills

What i dont hope for?

-Dmg nerfs (when dmg got nerfed we dont do enough pressure.. falling back into you know what)
-More penalty to adrenaline, it looks like anet is sticking everything to its “connecting burst mentality”, while this promotes skilled play it also forcing us to use longbow again.

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Posted by: Cygnus.6903

Cygnus.6903

Game is in complete disarray, I only play for lolz right now.

I only state my opinion unless stated otherwise.
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Posted by: Zagerus.8675

Zagerus.8675

Game is in complete disarray, I only play for lolz right now.

My feelings too lol. I love the traits as well though, the system they put together feels gorgeous. Just need to shave things damage-wise to bring things down from “Omglol bbqhax everyones blowing up all over to the place,” to “Yeah dude, that feels really strong.”

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I’m loving it. Warrior has a much more active play style. No skills are left unused.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

I would like it more if it weren’t for the obscene damage. Have posted this elsewhere, but it feels like I entered a cheat code for God Mode regardless of whether or not I play warrior, elementalist, or guardian… but warrior and elementalist especially.

Dealing higher damage than pre-ferocity is pretty crazy. o_O

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

if you consider the whole situation in pvp I would say warrior is worse than before.
shoutbow isn’t that efficient as before. because of the huge dps buffs other classes have gotten, you have on the one hand problems to hold a 2v1 and on the other hand it’s nearly impossible to support your team enough to outheal / cleanse conditions.
Same with hambow.
What we got is a buff of gs-zerk-warrior but I really doubt that this will be viable.
A zerk class without sneaky / instant bursts isn’t really worth if you compare it with a mesmer who can oneshot people out of stealth.
So now we have traded a viable build for a just4fun GS build. PvE and WvW bois will thank it.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

im staying away from PVP and WVW until all this emergency balancing gets sorted out. Ive just been hanging out in ORR and Silverwastes messing around.

For me personally i’d rather let the others pew pew each other and QQ on forums. Then once Anet re-balances i will start looking at pvp and wvw builds.

Right now its almost a waste of time since almost none of the builds will be the same a week from now.

Your typical average gamer -
“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

nicknamenick.2437

if you consider the whole situation in pvp I would say warrior is worse than before.
shoutbow isn’t that efficient as before. because of the huge dps buffs other classes have gotten, you have on the one hand problems to hold a 2v1 and on the other hand it’s nearly impossible to support your team enough to outheal / cleanse conditions.
Same with hambow.
What we got is a buff of gs-zerk-warrior but I really doubt that this will be viable.
A zerk class without sneaky / instant bursts isn’t really worth if you compare it with a mesmer who can oneshot people out of stealth.
So now we have traded a viable build for a just4fun GS build. PvE and WvW bois will thank it.

Yeah for shoutbow/hambow i can see its worse. But this will maby change with some balancing. And ofc some stuff does to much dmg.
But i didnt liked shoutbow soo yeah i prefer a warrior power style
But yeah sorry for those that like support..i am not tpvp at high lvl.. More for fun

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

if you consider the whole situation in pvp I would say warrior is worse than before.
shoutbow isn’t that efficient as before. because of the huge dps buffs other classes have gotten, you have on the one hand problems to hold a 2v1 and on the other hand it’s nearly impossible to support your team enough to outheal / cleanse conditions.
Same with hambow.
What we got is a buff of gs-zerk-warrior but I really doubt that this will be viable.
A zerk class without sneaky / instant bursts isn’t really worth if you compare it with a mesmer who can oneshot people out of stealth.
So now we have traded a viable build for a just4fun GS build. PvE and WvW bois will thank it.

Yeah for shoutbow/hambow i can see its worse. But this will maby change with some balancing. And ofc some stuff does to much dmg.
But i didnt liked shoutbow soo yeah i prefer a warrior power style
But yeah sorry for those that like support..i am not tpvp at high lvl.. More for fun

problem isn’t about not having fun with support builds anymore. power warrior is ofc more fun but it’s not viable. I talked to blackjack former member of [oRNG] and he’s also pretty sure that warrior already droped out of the meta with those changes

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Posted by: bigmonto.4215

bigmonto.4215

Now that they nerf shout heal amount, basically destroy my dream of going either 60066 or 06066.

You really can’t be too optimistics with this dev team.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Seems like it was a great patch for PvE warriors all around.

For PvP…well, shoutbow was due for a nerf, but there doesn’t seem to be anything to take it’s place yet.

Best case scenario: There’s an awesome PvP build that just hasn’t been discovered yet. Worst case scenario, there’s not really any great PvP build for warriors.

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Posted by: Arewn.2368

Arewn.2368

Now that they nerf shout heal amount, basically destroy my dream of going either 60066 or 06066.

You really can’t be too optimistics with this dev team.

You can get regen on banners with shout heals now though, which is pretty nice. If your build had any healing power, this just made that healing power a lot more effective per point since it’s now being used by more sources of healing.

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Posted by: Elegie.3620

Elegie.3620

I like it very much, but I’m biased towards berserker builds. For these, the gameplay has become fast-paced, with higher risk (cannot rely as much on passive stats or rotations, need more active play) and higher rewards (gained the ability to “one-shot”). I’ve always found that the celestial meta was not balanced in this regard, giving too much reward for the level of risk involved.

I haven’t tried to play celestial yet. My intuition is that it’s probably become weaker, punishing a lack of commitment to a particular style (damage, bunker, support…). But I don’t know which styles would work best on the warrior (I’ve only played berserker so far, and have sliced across everything in ranked games).

About the viability of the warrior: I have no idea. People are still processing the changes brought by the patch, then they’ll start thinking about counter-builds, then the metagame will emerge. It’s an exciting period, and probably too early to tell whether the warrior will be in or out of the favored classes. Personally, I’ll have an opinion after I play many styles/builds on all 8 classes – something that won’t happen before a few weeks…

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Posted by: Gevinor.4503

Gevinor.4503

I do wvw 90% of the time and warrior for me is not worth it. Damage is awesome as zerk (my preferred spec since original beta) and heal sig is amazing now. But (and I’ve said this in other threads) greatsword mobility is trashed and I feel like a thief without stealth. Since the whole game is a mess, I’m taking a break and playing mesmer until hopefully greatsword move speed is fixed.

Three years on warrior with many ups and downs and all it took to make me switch was normalizing speed on movement skills. Please revert, anet.

Agree 100%, pretty much sums up how I feel about the patch. The lack of mobility feels like a deal breaker for wvw.

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Posted by: Henry.5713

Henry.5713

My feelings when comparing warrior to other classes.

PVE (mostly dungeons):
Good: higher dps, more active play, good str and disc lines
Bad: on hit (not on use) adrenalin dps buff, movement skill change
Ugly: arms trait line, especially master choices, grandmaster should have Axe Mastery

PVP:
Good: Burning Arrows (even if tactics is meh otherwise), peak performance can be hillarious with rampage
Bad: warhorn changes, some trait choices are terrible (3/3 are useless for your build)
Ugly: changes to hambow traits, longbow not proc’ing adrenalin dps buff

WVW:
Good: new warrior sprint, berserk warrior seems fun
Bad: movement skill changes

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Posted by: Hoaxintelligence.4628

Hoaxintelligence.4628

There is this thread called “things we know” were a dev’s is pointing out “problems” like condi’s that are to strong, some builds are op etc
So before they patch that, we must play the waiting game.

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Posted by: yepperoni.9407

yepperoni.9407

The Rush change affected me harder than I thought it would
they took away my nikes and gave me heelys

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Posted by: yanoch.7051

yanoch.7051

Rush does feel a bit less precise to me when used offensively. It’s not as bad as before the patch when they fixed it but doesn’t feel as great. I might be wrong.

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