Guild Wars 2

I use healing signet because it auto heals me,
and I need that since my vital problem is the
same for all games:
I get taken away by the combat/game and
quite a few times I have been known to forget
to heal myself, due to this annoying habit.
(one of the absolutely more positive habits)

Anyone else got this problem and use the
healing signet because of that?

imo healing signet is better against burst builds than healing surge.

healing signet keeps your 20k+ HP topped off, so at any given time you can survive a burst, whereas you will be slowly whittled down with healing surge/mending and if you don’t heal at the right moment you’re susceptible to a burst.

Additionally, a lot of people time their bursts when they see opponent’s HP fall below 50%. With healing signet your HP may just never get to the 50% mark, so they won’t even try to burst you.

There’s definitely a psychological component that factors into Healing Signet (queue OP troll). Mathematically, it’s been shown several times over that Healing Surge is similar in healing capacity, but:

1. Many people potentially don’t use Healing Signet at only full Adrenaline, drastically reducing its healing potential.

2. As Excalibur mentions, the consistent small heals give the impression that your health is staying higher, so people might be holding off on bursts.

It’s interesting, for sure. I’ve been using it just to play around with so far, may or may not continue to use it.

Cogbyrn.7283:

There’s definitely a psychological component that factors into Healing Signet (queue OP troll).

If this mean you suggest I am troll’ing,
I can tell you I am not,
I really do get taken with the combat
to such a degree that I forget to heal.

Now being a dedicated healer, I do
remember to heal (everyone), but
since GW2 doesn’t have healers,
and the fact warriors never been
healers, and never should be it,
…is a debate for another game.

DragonMind.2983:

Cogbyrn.7283:

There’s definitely a psychological component that factors into Healing Signet (queue OP troll).

If this mean you suggest I am troll’ing,
I can tell you I am not,
I really do get taken with the combat
to such a degree that I forget to heal.

Now being a dedicated healer, I do
remember to heal (everyone), but
since GW2 doesn’t have healers,
and the fact warriors never been
healers, and never should be it,
…is a debate for another game.

I meant “Overpowered Troll”, not “Original Poster” troll. I don’t doubt your sincerity, I just anticipate people will jest about how the heal is overpowered.

Cogbyrn.7283:

DragonMind.2983:

Cogbyrn.7283:

There’s definitely a psychological component that factors into Healing Signet (queue OP troll).

If this mean you suggest I am troll’ing,
I can tell you I am not,
I really do get taken with the combat
to such a degree that I forget to heal.

Now being a dedicated healer, I do
remember to heal (everyone), but
since GW2 doesn’t have healers,
and the fact warriors never been
healers, and never should be it,
…is a debate for another game.

I meant “Overpowered Troll”, not “Original Poster” troll. I don’t doubt your sincerity, I just anticipate people will jest about how the heal is overpowered.

Healing skills in a game is always overpowered, …compared to IRL .

DragonMind.2983:

If this mean you suggest I am troll’ing,
I can tell you I am not,
I really do get taken with the combat
to such a degree that I forget to heal.

Now being a dedicated healer, I do
remember to heal (everyone), but
since GW2 doesn’t have healers,
and the fact warriors never been
healers, and never should be it,
…is a debate for another game.

This was a beautiful poem.

Healing Signet + Adrenal Health + Regeneration + Mango Pies = Incredible Hulk unlocked. XD Bonus points if you can get an Ele buddy to accompany you for Soothing Mist.

The biggest benefit that the signet provides is its constant, uninterruptable, infallible healing. It removes the ability of a well-placed interrupt to devastate your match, and it removes the requirement of the individual to pay attention and heal as necessary.

Its too much easymode.

Redscope.6215:

infallible healing

Except that it loses healing based on your poison up time while a burst heal you can intentionally use after cleansing.

Easymode does not equal OP

Many of you seem to comment on the healing signet,
rather than WHY you use it.
As an ‘example’ to why I use HS, read my initial post.

…beginning to think Cogbyrn.7283 was right
about posters to this thread.
+1 to you Cogbyrn :-)

I use it because as a warrior you don’t have the EZmode spamming abilities that most other classes have. Mesmers let clones fight for them, necro’s have AoE and minions, eles have insane PBAoE, engineers have AoE, rangers have pets and spirits, guardians have spirit weapons. Thieves have stealth. Fact of the matter is every class can do significant damage or is able to survive through simple mechanics without having to invest a great deal of attention in it.

In short, as a warrior you have to have more skill IMO, just for concentrating on doing damage and proper positioning. The fact that my heal doesn’t require even more attention makes the warrior a smoother class to play, for me. This was a lot harder before HS got buffed. I’m Just an average player off course.

I use healing signet because one of my roaming gear was shout heal boon duration with mix of Rune of Altruism and monk. With 16sec healing signet CD, i can provide 3 stack of AoE might every 16 sec, which is very nice.

Actually i was using healing signet for this setup long before it was buffed, until my build was destroyed after berserker power was moved to grandmaster. Pre nerf, i was using mainly cleric gear and shout heal was my main healing sources, and also rely on berserker power, empowered with 60% boon duration to get 100% signet of rage up time. This was a satisfying support warrior setup but it was no longer there.

DragonMind.2983:

I use healing signet because it auto heals me,
and I need that since my vital problem is the
same for all games:
I get taken away by the combat/game and
quite a few times I have been known to forget
to heal myself, due to this annoying habit.
(one of the absolutely more positive habits)

Anyone else got this problem and use the
healing signet because of that?

Are you asking for OP healing because you forgot to heal yourself? If you forget to heal yourself, you probably shouldn’t be playing this game.

Cygnus.6903:

I use it because as a warrior you don’t have the EZmode spamming abilities that most other classes have. Mesmers let clones fight for them, necro’s have AoE and minions, eles have insane PBAoE, engineers have AoE, rangers have pets and spirits, guardians have spirit weapons. Thieves have stealth. Fact of the matter is every class can do significant damage or is able to survive through simple mechanics without having to invest a great deal of attention in it.

In short, as a warrior you have to have more skill IMO, just for concentrating on doing damage and proper positioning. The fact that my heal doesn’t require even more attention makes the warrior a smoother class to play, for me. This was a lot harder before HS got buffed. I’m Just an average player off course.

Much lol’s were had, before the buff to healing signet warrior had artificial difficulty, if you hadn’t killed someone in a brief period of time, you were dead. Mechanically warrior is actually a pretty simple class. Your comment on warrior skill being important was absolutely true before the buffs, now, I can make a huge number of mistakes, and miss a huge number of dodges, yet still win a fight. With that said, warrior was prohibitively difficult before the buffs. Personally I think moving UF up the tree a bit, maybe to master or grandmaster, and lowering the healing signet a smidge but raising its healing with healing power is the way to go. I wouldn’t want to see HS lowered anywhere past 360.

Reason healing signet is overpowered is simply it’s uninterruptible(sp). A huge part of winning fights is figuring out when the opponent is going to go for a heal and interrupting it allowing for the win.

And really Cygnus? You think every other class but the warrior has it easy mode? You even put rangers in your list (Imho the hardest class to do well in pvp/WvW with)…..Of all the classes i’ve tried, warrior takes the least skill, due to sustain and damage output. Everyone else has to gauge the best time to heal/avoid being interrupted. Not warriors!.

Divinity.8041:

DragonMind.2983:

I use healing signet because it auto heals me,
and I need that since my vital problem is the
same for all games:
I get taken away by the combat/game and
quite a few times I have been known to forget
to heal myself, due to this annoying habit.
(one of the absolutely more positive habits)

Anyone else got this problem and use the
healing signet because of that?

Are you asking for OP healing because you forgot to heal yourself? If you forget to heal yourself, you probably shouldn’t be playing this game.

No, I am just explaining why I use Healing Signet,
and if others do it for the same reason, or any other
reason …which the 2 posters before you had :-)

Warrior is the strongest in melee. Healsig obsoletes ranged pressure, forcing people to 2v1 the warrior or try to out spike the strongest spike class with the strongest armor and most Health.

phaeris.7604:

Reason healing signet is overpowered is simply it’s uninterruptible(sp). A huge part of winning fights is figuring out when the opponent is going to go for a heal and interrupting it allowing for the win.

Not ever class has access to an interrupt that you can use on a dime to stop a heal. What about those classes? They just don’t get to interrupt heals? Sounds imba.

(This parody of the fact that people discount Poison as a realistic counter to Healing Signet brought to you by the letter F.)

nekretaal.6485:

Warrior is the strongest in melee. Healsig obsoletes ranged pressure, forcing people to 2v1 the warrior or try to out spike the strongest spike class with the strongest armor and most Health.

oh yea this is my problem with warrior. if they build to be really tanky they can force a 2v1. the regen just gets out of hand for 1 single person.

i was watching the shoutcast with 5 warrior team, and even the caster knows a single thief can’t bring down a warrior (the strongest burst class), you need at least 2!

Thieves pistol :4
Elementalists : dagger 5 updraft,earthquake
Ranger : Longbow 4 (point blank shot).
Necromancer : Pick any of the fears.
Guardian : Hammer 4/bane signet
Engineer : Rifle 4, and other things which fling you around of an explosive nature.
Mesmer : Diversion shatter/stuns/signets…

So….that’s all the classes, in all pretty common weapon lines.

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