Guild Wars 2

Its not that the Elite skills are useless, but they’re just plain boring compared to every other profession. It wouldn’t be so bad if Juggernaut did what it says and actually turns me into a massive Juggernaut instead of me just dropping my weapons and duking it out. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rampage

I don’t think they’re that useless except the banner one. If anything I wouldn’t mind if they reworked Signet of Rage to work like Ranger Rampage as one. In a sense those boons should be in that elite skill.

Rename it as Signet of Berserking or Signet of Berserker*

Rampage is definitely useless.

But Signet of Rage and Banner are really the important ones.

Banner is very useful in ressing friends. Three of your friends downed? Use a banner.

“Banner is very useful in ressing friends. Three of your friends downed? Use a banner.”

Also might I add, it’s a fantastic DPS booster for PvE and PvP alike. Like having might and fury up at all times? Use Battle Standard.

To be fair, that’s pretty much the warrior class in a nutshell.

Banner is amazing, it allows you to res partners in hard to reach positions, give buffs to the team and you can move it around if needed. the signet of rage well is ok, some buffs yeah good for dps boost. Juggernaut wouldn’t be bad at all if the kitten animations weren’t so slow.

Once again it is not that the skills suck but rather that they’re boring as all hell.

Arenanet needs to give us an elite shout skill.

Honestly, transform skills are too short for their cost and recharge time. I think all class transform skills need to be 1 min duration with same recharge time. You can keep the 30sec in pvp and wvw though, since nobody uses them there.

Elite shout needed. End of story.

With 2/3 elites being useful, we definitely did not get screwed with elites compared to some classes. Yes, they’re dull as hell, but that doesn’t mean that they’re not useful.

Elite shout prz.

I can go 5 signet, 4 banner but only 3 shout? nothx.

Tbh, I prefer having useful elite skills to having entertaining ones.
My Charr warrior has some nice elite skills and I’m using signet or banner all the time. When playing my Norn mesmer, on the other hand, it feels like I have only long cd ones that aren’t very good (quickness bubble is probably good for pvp, though), or at least not as good with the much too long cd. If you can do something for 10 seconds every 5 minutes, it should be really strong instead of mediocre.

I think warrior elite skills are the way they should be for other classes. I only fear that instead of buffing the other classes, they’ll just give the signet a 240 second cd and reduce the uptime of the banner to 10 seconds

Actually Recently, as far Utility skills go (not counting the heal or elite skill), we get 4 signets (Fury, Stamina, Dolyak, and Might), 4 banners (Tactics, Strength, Discipline, and Defense), and 4 shouts (For Great Justice, Shake It Off, On My Mark, and Fear Me).

I would like to see an Elite shout. I don’t know what it would do but I would like it. I would also like to see Banner of Defense’s second skill to give protection for like 3-4 seconds instead of the knockback

I think the banner should come with a stripper that sexy dances while using it like a pole. Maker her wear some high end light armor, those super revealing ones and everyone will be loving this skill you will see.

we had a non-dull elite once upon a time, Anet decided it was overpowered though.

Grok Krog.9581:

Actually Recently, as far Utility skills go (not counting the heal or elite skill), we get 4 signets (Fury, Stamina, Dolyak, and Might), 4 banners (Tactics, Strength, Discipline, and Defense), and 4 shouts (For Great Justice, Shake It Off, On My Mark, and Fear Me).

I would like to see an Elite shout. I don’t know what it would do but I would like it. I would also like to see Banner of Defense’s second skill to give protection for like 3-4 seconds instead of the knockback

I think he was referring to how many you can put on your bar at once.

5 Signets (you left out healing).
4 Banners (any 3 regulars, plus the elite).
3 Shouts (you can’t get all 4 on your bar).

Counting the number available to choose from and “not counting the heal or the elite” really doesn’t address the issue at all, it just becomes more of an “academic exercise” with no relevance to how the class performs in gameplay.

In Solo play, I feel Signet Of Rage is absolutely amazing. Probably one of the best Elites available.

In Group Play, to me, it’s useless. Fury Might are pretty much up all the time anyway pretty high, and swiftness? zzz not needed really. So I usually switch to Banner which even than it’s lackluster.

Be awesome to have something powerful like Dagger Storm or Thieves Guild (which both I love on my thief)

But for the most part pretty much all the elites are terrible. Mesmer’s at least get two good ones that people consider Overpowered.

Elite shout, this was mentioned somewhere before, but basically Fus Ro Dah!!

“Our elites are so much better than any of the warrior elites,” – Said no elementalist, ever.

Big Boss.6248:

It wouldn’t be so bad if Juggernaut did what it says and actually turns me into a massive Juggernaut instead of me just dropping my weapons and duking it out.

+1
the developer who did that skill was late for the movies that day…

I think rage of signet is the best elite in the game because of its short timer. Combined with rune of lyssa, I have two full condition removals, 5 second regen, an absorb shield, 5 seconds of retaliation (combined with spiked armor), as well as all the other buffs. I also get 100% swiftness up time. In fact, I can usually build 1-2 minute swiftness buffs while I roam around the map because of signet of rage. Combined with sword, I never have to worry about be caught, which is awesome if you like to play small pvp. If they ever changed elites and put them on a longer timer, I would have to stop playing a warrior and move to something else which will suck because I love having 26K-30K hps (depending on orbs), passive heals, awesome condition removal, and a ton of damage.

Rage of signet is an amazing elite. With that single skill you can approach 100% fury, swiftness and might uptime.

If you think Warriors got screwed with elites you really need to get a grip and try some other professions. Signet Of Rage alone is better than ANYTHING a Guardian or Engineer gets (and other professions too probably, can only compare what I play). Boring perhaps, but it isn’t broken, works underwater and gives you some lovely long duration boosts on a very short cooldown. Play some other professions and deal with their broken and underwhelming elites and put it all into perspective. Seriously.

Rune of the Monk looks very tempting to pair with the Signet of Rage: group Aegis every 48 seconds. Unfortunately, having to run AC a dozen times to try it out in group play doesn’t seem worth it.

Try playing other classes. Warriors have the most useful, if not the best, elite skill in the game with Signet of Rage. I agree that Juggernaut is crap, and the cooldown is way to long on the banner elite to justify its use, but Signet of Rage is by far the best elite I’ve seen.

Try an engineer. Nothing like an RNG Juggernaut elite.

Yeah, I was severely disappointed with Jauggernaught. I thought at least that I would get larger, like a double-sized Norn. But no. 30 pts gone.

I’m hoping, but almost shure that Anet will and can make more skills for all proffessions. The warrior elite skills are usefull, but there’s hardly much choice. One to three more would be nice I think.

Signet of rage is amazing. The problem I have with it is that I think we’re balanced witht he assumption we’re all using it and it will be up most of the time. That’s not cool at all……..

Dungeoning without Battle Standard is a crime.

Apparently no one is reading the opening post. THE SKILLS ARE NOT UNDERPOWERED JUST COMPLETELY DULL AND BORING.

What did you expect? This is the internet and you put an extremely misleading and inflammatory title on the thread.

Stop crying 30 secs of swiftness, fury and 5 might stacks (wich can be made everlasting with traits) is superior amazing. The cooldown is amazing. Yes my guardian and mesmer have maybe ‘more powerfull’ ones. But time warp has 210 cool down. Amazing long. To long to be reliable even in dungeons. You haven an elite that can boost your every bit of damage you do. That’s very good in my opinion. Secondly, I could only dream on my mesmer of such long duration swiftness!

what traits would you use to make signet of rage be up all the time?

Not “screwed” – pigeonholed into one Elite.

ThunderStorm.3140:

what traits would you use to make signet of rage be up all the time?

Trait
Signet Mastery (Discipline – 10 pts)

Misc
Anything that grants +% Boon Duration. The most common ways are through the Tactics trait line and Rune set piece bonuses. Since you’re looking at a 48 second recast after the Signet Mastery trait, you would need +60% Boon Duration to permanently chain this buff up. Otherwise you could use a skill like For Great Justice to stack +Fury up permanently (and either let the +Swiftness drop off for short period of time or give AoE Swiftness through holding a Banner object).

Wiser with Age.3714:

ThunderStorm.3140:

what traits would you use to make signet of rage be up all the time?

Trait
Signet Mastery (Discipline – 10 pts)

Misc
Anything that grants +% Boon Duration. The most common ways are through the Tactics trait line and Rune set piece bonuses. Since you’re looking at a 48 second recast after the Signet Mastery trait, you would need +60% Boon Duration to permanently chain this buff up. Otherwise you could use a skill like For Great Justice to stack +Fury up permanently (and either let the +Swiftness drop off for short period of time or give AoE Swiftness through holding a Banner object).

Running sword/warhorn with signet of rage = probably the fastest setup in the game. Permanent swiftness with a huge sword lunge on a 7 second cooldown. Great for WvW and general PvE.

Maintaining permanent swiftness, fury, and might made easy: Signet of Rage, Warhorn, “For Great Justice!”

They’re okay. Rage signet is pretty good for soloing (Up 50% of the time without boon duration boosts. Not bad), and Warbanner is kitten good in group play. You can easily turn dungeon runs around with a well-placed one that raises 2-3 party members and buffs everyone. Haven’t had much success in wuvwuv or pvp with the banner, though.

Juggernaut is universally agreed that it’s crap. It seems most transformations are bad. My Norn Warrior has 5 transformations (4 spirits and juggernaut) and I hate them all. 2/7 elites are good, that’s it.

I wish you could just use another utility skill in your elite slot. This isn’t specific to warrior, but just a general comment.

Big Boss.6248:

Apparently no one is reading the opening post. THE SKILLS ARE NOT UNDERPOWERED JUST COMPLETELY DULL AND BORING.

But they are. At least Rampage is.

And everything about the Warrior is dull and boring. Half if the class’s skills are mild AoE buffs.

I’m rather fond of Sig of Rage.

Please dont get rid of it

So many complainers. Banner or signet are the best ones, and for funzies, your racial ones.

You can’t have everything.

Aloquis.4612:

“Our elites are so much better than any of the warrior elites,” – Said no elementalist, ever.

I’d kill for the ability to summon flaming greatswords that shoot fire, turn into a whirlwind, or just plain summon a buddy in general.