Why do ppl complain about warriors?

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Posted by: Mythriel.8724

Mythriel.8724

I am a new player, been playing for like 4 days and I am just lvl 30 warrior. I read this forum and see that ppl complain a lot regarding warriors and I am 2 low or 2 newbie to understand why. Atm I am loving my warrior…yes I die a lot but I also make a lot of damage with cheap gear. I played almost every mmo since 2004, including Gw1 , WOW and others…even in Diablo3 I had a warrior and ppl complained about it there too but I loved it. To be honest I do not think warriors are bad, even in WOW a lot of ppl complain about warriors. I think it is all about the skill…..so anyway why are warriors bad in Gw2?

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

They aren’t bad in PvE, they are bad in sPvP, because other classes simply do things better than them…in every way.

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Posted by: Sil.4560

Sil.4560

People are going to start crying about warriors in PvP now because we’re finally starting to get our due buffs which might prevent some of the bunker classes from rolling their face on the keyboard to survive against us.

Ignore them. We rock in PvE and there’s hope of soon being balanced to fight on equal footing with other classes. It’s gonna be great.

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Posted by: Blackhat.4016

Blackhat.4016

Currently warriors are:

PvE = godlike
WvW = ok
sPvP = ok
tPvP = bad

In the next patch there are going to be some buffs for warriors (mainly for sPvP and tPvP) but most likely nothing which would make them OP in those 2 parts of the game. When it comes to WvW I can’t really tell you how it is going to change the warrior meta there. The only thing left is PvE and that is something you could complain about. Imo they are a little too strong there.

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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

TheGuy.3568

Currently warriors are:

PvE = godlike
WvW = ok
sPvP = ok
tPvP = bad

In the next patch there are going to be some buffs for warriors (mainly for sPvP and tPvP) but most likely nothing which would make them OP in those 2 parts of the game. When it comes to WvW I can’t really tell you how it is going to change the warrior meta there. The only thing left is PvE and that is something you could complain about. Imo they are a little too strong there.

As far as PvE goes someone has to be at the top of the food chain. Its not that strange for warrior to dominate there across many mmos and the margins aren’t all that bad here. We aren’t running loops around everyone. We just happen to be good at sustained DPS vs an immobile target.

As far as WvW goes lets see what they do with healing. The Boon hate is laughably bad considering the line and the commitment required to get. 10 point trait that does nearly the same thing guaranteed to 30 point trait for maybe a little more.

Honestly it should have been a strip/steal trait. It was said months ago but it fell on deaf ears.

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Posted by: Irena.1062

Irena.1062

Because they don’t bring support to the party, only lots of damage.

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Posted by: ArcturusWolf.1205

ArcturusWolf.1205

Because they don’t bring support to the party, only lots of damage.

I beg to differ. Superior Rune of the Soldier + Shoutheals: Condition removal for your group. Cleric gear + shoutheals/bannerheals and you distribute mass healing and CCs everywhere with hammer/x. Immobilise with bolas, Leg Specialist and Flurry. A near instant ranged AoE blind with longbow, and long duration bleed + immob with LB 5 (if thieves get away they can’t break out of battle for ages unless they burn a condition removal thanks to a 22 second bleed).

You can even dump a really long duration fire combo field for your whole group with LB burst. It’s just that most warriors you see around these days are GS + axe/x, that you think they’re all damage.

As for OP: People complain about warriors for the same reason people complain about thieves. The burst. Granted a 100b BC-bolas is a one-trick pony, but it’s extremely deadly if the enemy is completely unprepared for it. Which is why there’s so much QQ against them, because people get caught unawares, get killed in seconds and go ‘omg that’s so OP’. That, or they meet a hammer support warrior and get stunlocked for 8-10 sec straight, because they didn’t pack stability or stunbreaks.

Oh and they’re just jealous that we can wreck almost any PvE enemy because none of them dodge.

People will always complain about classes that aren’t their own. Best to get revenge. With a smile.

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Posted by: Sil.4560

Sil.4560

A big, toothy smile, with the cold, dead eyes of a shark.

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Posted by: SmoothHussler.6387

SmoothHussler.6387

As for OP: People complain about warriors for the same reason people complain about thieves. The burst. Granted a 100b BC-bolas is a one-trick pony, but it’s extremely deadly if the enemy is completely unprepared for it.

If any semi-conscious player sees a gs warrior 100b should hardly ever down them. Only if that other player has blown their cooldowns (3rd man in situation) or…if they’re afk.

To the op, people complaints mostly focus on pvp ascpects and not pve where the warrior is king. We’ll see after this patch though how things play out. I think engineers, some mesmer build and even guardians might fall a bit, and thieves and warriors might rise. Whether any of the last 2 will overtake any of the first 3 remains to be seen.

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Posted by: Blackhat.4016

Blackhat.4016

100b is most likely one of the best builds against new PvP players.

Immobilize/stun/etc. (“My character doesn’t move! Help!”)
→ 100b (“My HP! Where are my HP?!)
→ some auto attacks or other skills which are not on CD + Finish (”Oh no, I am dead. )
→ /dance (“Warrior is OP! Nerf please!”)

Once your “stun break/condition removal/dodge” finger is fast enough the build is no problem anymore. In fact, it is actually a pretty weak build if you dodge the initial burst.

I do understand why new players complain though. It is pretty frustrating to play against it if you don’t know how to counter it.