Why weren't Warriors nerfed?
Eviscerate crit for 6,786 damage on me today. 3,186 armor.
Seriously, Warrior’s are trolling PvP right now.
Anyone critting that much on that armor is pretty much guaranteed to be a glass cannon.
And let’s just point out that every profession has a minimum of 10,805 hp.
Eviscerate crit for 6,786 damage on me today. 3,186 armor.
Seriously, Warrior’s are trolling PvP right now.
No dude, Anet is trolling you. Blame them for upping damage and lowering toughness as it scales. 3700 toughness and you would think a warrior was wearing a T-shirt after being hit by a full glass cannon..
I’m sure you’re a class that have better/effective damage mitigation and self support reliance. Warriors doesn’t have these luxuries. Even our broken friend Ranger has better support. Not many go that route, but they can out support a warrior 1v1 and win in a battle of attrition.
I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.
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No dude, Anet is trolling you. Blame them for upping damage and lowering toughness as it scales. 3700 toughness and you would think a warrior was wearing a T-shirt after being hit by a full glass cannon..
I’m sure you’re a class that have better/effective damage mitigation and self support reliance. Warriors doesn’t have these luxuries. Even our broken friend Ranger has better support. Not many go that route, but they can out support a warrior 1v1 and win in a battle of attrition.
It’s starting to get more ridiculous by the week. You make the conscious effort to stack high armor and vitality in order to boost your survivability to the point that you literally can’t boost it any higher and people come around and smash you for a 1/3rd of your life in one hit or instant gib you in 3 seconds (had a Thief do that to me earlier).
It’s only two classes in game that can hit this hard and they’re both physical attack classes, go figure.
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Lorella Windrunner – 80 Thief
Shayera Nightfall – 80 Mesmer
Lorella Windrunner – 80 Thief
Shayera Nightfall – 80 Mesmer
No dude, Anet is trolling you. Blame them for upping damage and lowering toughness as it scales. 3700 toughness and you would think a warrior was wearing a T-shirt after being hit by a full glass cannon..
I’m sure you’re a class that have better/effective damage mitigation and self support reliance. Warriors doesn’t have these luxuries. Even our broken friend Ranger has better support. Not many go that route, but they can out support a warrior 1v1 and win in a battle of attrition.
It’s starting to get more ridiculous by the week. You make the conscious effort to stack high armor and vitality in order to boost your survivability to the point that you literally can’t boost it any higher and people come around and smash you for a 1/3rd of your life in one hit or instant gib you in 3 seconds (had a Thief do that to me earlier).
It’s only two classes in game that can hit this hard and they’re both physical attack classes, go figure.
I guess you missed the thread with the ele that was doing 25k damage in 3 seconds.
Warrior needs buffs in PvP. They suck against conditions and competitive PvP is 50% condition/boon synergy.
Getting rolled by a Warrior means one of two things, 1) you had no cooldowns and didn’t see it coming with low health, 2) you are still Learning2Play
I can play a warrior well against noobs with no traits, no utility skills and void of pants. But competitively every weapon I have as a Warrior has a hard counter naturally built in to every other popular competitive role.
Is being able to jump people and spike them down really unique to warrior? No. What is unique to warrior is that is the only option you have. And even then if you jump a condition spammer like Necro yer gonna die with the Necro if you even get them at all.
That’s why Warrior isn’t going to get nerfed.
What was Arenanet thinking with buffing the longbow?!! Now all I ever see in pvp on my Dill Doe of a class is overpowered WARRIORS dual shotting people left and right!!!
When game first came out, nobody complained about eviscerate damage, they were too busy crying about 100blades.Now that they learned how to dodge when they see a warrior charging, the crying has lessened a bit.
When the bad players learn how to dodge the telegraphed leap of eviscerate, the crying will lessen as well.
But the sad truth is, scrubs will grab every single opportunity to complain and cry if given the chance.Exampe:
“WHAT?!?!Warrior’s overall damage was buffed by 1% and they had their HP pool increased by 50?!?!? OMG Hide yo wifes, hide yo kids, warrs be stompin errebody now!GG, game is totally favoring warriors, now with their super buffs, nobody can stop em!”
This pretty much summarizes the situation right now.So, whiners be whining…
When game first came out, nobody complained about eviscerate damage, they were too busy crying about 100blades.Now that they learned how to dodge when they see a warrior charging, the crying has lessened a bit.
When the bad players learn how to dodge the telegraphed leap of eviscerate, the crying will lessen as well.
But the sad truth is, scrubs will grab every single opportunity to complain and cry if given the chance.Exampe:
“WHAT?!?!Warrior’s overall damage was buffed by 1% and they had their HP pool increased by 50?!?!? OMG Hide yo wifes, hide yo kids, warrs be stompin errebody now!GG, game is totally favoring warriors, now with their super buffs, nobody can stop em!”This pretty much summarizes the situation right now.So, whiners be whining…
Actually i prefer more detailed argumentations and dialogs to solve a problem, but this guy here is not quite incorrect.
Longbow auto attack still sucks donkey poo even with the buff.
lv80 with skills fully unlocked, warrior, elementalist and engineer
lv80 Necromancer, all professional skills unlocked, working on the final norn elite skills.
lv80 Necromancer, all professional skills unlocked, working on the final norn elite skills.
Why weren’t Warriors nerfed?
Because they don’t need nerfs.
End of Discussion.
Why weren’t Warriors nerfed?
Because they don’t need nerfs.
End of Discussion.
Okay. Then why is there a general feeling, (as a guardian), that I should only be tanky or reroll? To quote a real person last night, " leave the damage to warriors, there’s no point in trying, they’re too hax". And that’s all I’m really hearing in game.
If you’re getting killed by warriors consistently as a guardian then you’re doing something wrong.
Okay. Then why is there a general feeling, (as a guardian), that I should only be tanky or reroll? To quote a real person last night, " leave the damage to warriors, there’s no point in trying, they’re too hax". And that’s all I’m really hearing in game.
Peer pressure! Leave those fools to while their time away playing their characters in pigeon holes! I play my Warrior with absolutely zero focus on the damage I’m dealing and I have a great time keeping myself and my allies alive.
Chops Mcgee, of Anvil Rock
Warriors don’t need nerfing. Other classes need buffing. Guardians, Mesmers, and Thiefs are fine.
Why weren’t Warriors nerfed?
Because they don’t need nerfs.
End of Discussion.
I have to agree, Warriors actually kinda okay where they are now, they’re viable but they’re not overpowered. In fact pretty much all of their abilities have hard counters so most classes shouldn’t be left with “no recourse” when fighting a warrior.
Also for anyone complaining about HB or Eviscerate well, you’re doing something wrong if you have problems with those. HB roots the warrior with a 4 second cast time so ya know… move out of the way if that happens, eviscerate is a very short gap closer so if you’re standing close enough to be hit by this you’re kinda asking for it.
I’ll say it again. Because they’re balanced. And why are they balanced? Because you simply need to work your kitten off to be good with this class.
Since people are negative about nerfs, how about we buff to balance then?
People that say HB “roots” the warrior are doing something wrong lol
Dodge, WASD, and even pressing 1 can stop the attack and let you give chase. :P
I started out as a Guardian, then switched over to Warrior. My conclusion: Warriors are much weaker than Guardians, in almost every aspect. Glass canon warriors does a lot of damage, but only with the use of a couple utility skills. However, glass cannon guardians can dish out powerful damage over time that rivals a GS warrior and have more survivability to boot. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that anet must be using warriors as a control. This class has no advantages over other classes.
Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that anet must be using warriors as a control. This class has no advantages over other classes.
That’s basically the jist of it, yes. They even stated in the early information pre-beta that the warrior class was what they were using to balance everything around as it was the first class.
Which is why I’ve said before, and still maintain that the biggest issue with warriors is a “vanilla” factor. When using the warrior as a baseline the other classes got similar abilities in function, only improved and spiced up. So while the vanilla cone is an ok treat, it’s pretty bland compared to the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday sitting next to it…. being spoonfed to you by a topless college cheerleader.
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People that say HB “roots” the warrior are doing something wrong lol
Dodge, WASD, and even pressing 1 can stop the attack and let you give chase. :P
You’re rooted for the duration of the skill. Being able to cancel the skill doesn’t make that inaccurate, and it’s still relevant to using the skill effectively.
People that say HB “roots” the warrior are doing something wrong lol
Dodge, WASD, and even pressing 1 can stop the attack and let you give chase. :P
Which completely defeats the whole point of HB. Having to move before the entire ability goes off is a win for your opponent.
So while the vanilla cone is an ok treat, it’s pretty bland compared to the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday sitting next to it…. being spoonfed to you by a topless college cheerleader.
lmao best post I read today. Also noticed the change of sig, it isn’t R.I.P anymore.
I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.
Which is why I’ve said before, and still maintain that the biggest issue with warriors is a “vanilla” factor. When using the warrior as a baseline the other classes got similar abilities in function, only improved and spiced up. So while the vanilla cone is an ok treat, it’s pretty bland compared to the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday sitting next to it…. being spoonfed to you by a topless college cheerleader.
But what if I think that the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday is too sweet and a topless college cheerleader would just detract from the eating?
I like vanilla ice cream.
Which is why I’ve said before, and still maintain that the biggest issue with warriors is a “vanilla” factor. When using the warrior as a baseline the other classes got similar abilities in function, only improved and spiced up. So while the vanilla cone is an ok treat, it’s pretty bland compared to the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday sitting next to it…. being spoonfed to you by a topless college cheerleader.
But what if I think that the triple chocolate fudge with caramel, marshmallow and peanutbutter ice cream sunday is too sweet and a topless college cheerleader would just detract from the eating?
I like vanilla ice cream.
We have to put in insane amounts of effort to be competitive. No matter how skilled you become at working around its flaws, they still haunt you. You can’t get around 2/3 bad utilities, the terrible high tier traits, and questionable tree design.
I like Vanilla Ice Cream too. I just prefer to not be subjected to the cheap brand. Keep the flavor, but at least improve the quality.
I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.
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Its not mean to traverse terrain like that anymore, I can only asssume bugged map geometry or something. Or maybe to do with not having target circle targeting turned on.
are you serious? any decent thief has a bow on their secondary slot just so they can zoom around the map like that in sPvP. and its definitely NOT a bug or bad map geometry or whatever, its been like that since the betas and its still like that (considering my teams thief always poofs through the walls on clock tower in khylo to get a quick cap).
idk about PvE and thieves obviously use it in WvW for more then that, but in sPvP it is ridiculously good for thieves of any kind. quick movement and good mobility around the map are what make good teams, and the thief being able to cross the entire map in a few seconds or get to hard to reach positions and what not makes them almost invaluable.
add that to their insane potential burst and theyre still a better choice then a 100B warrior, ask any decent team out there.
with all the clearly unnecessary whining from people that probably never actually played a warrior to be frustrated how utterly useless HB is,
ArenaNet should buff HB to have full mobillity(youtube “Cornered Beast” in Rift). Make it like whirling axe but keep its damage . They should change it just for a month and see how sad crybabies really get, and maybe the players that have two brain cells to rub together and move out of HB will shut up the crybabies.
Seriously, to people crying…
HB only works on someone bad enough to eat it or afk. Even with frenzy up, if someone knows the animation they can get out before it downs them. Frenzy only allows one more swing to get off than normal speed HB. It doesn’t even buff raw dmg and not worth the risk of getting 2 shotted or having to stop HB because you are eating too much dmg. The real burst comes from signet of rage and the reason people hit the " 19k-25k" HB.
Its not rocket science , if a warrior is suddenly standing next to you holding a GS he’s probably about to do HB because its the only real dmg skill he has with that weapon, the others are sadly better at movement.
and if you are a thief and complaining…
No thief should ever down to a HB unless you started the fight at 50% or less, if you do QQ